their thought processes, while wildly (objectively) bad in terms of mafia theory -> line up with a thought process a townie would bring to the table regarding seeing what has unfolded here.
What makes you think they are informed?
Like seriously - people who say things you disagree with are not scum lol.
Can you outline why you think they are scum?
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
maybe you should try reading her iso or something idk man
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
the fact that duck is being reasonable is making me instinctively wanna townread him even though i know that is a very VERY dangerous game
-D
"reasonable"
quote these posts that are reasonable to you.
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
their thought processes, while wildly (objectively) bad in terms of mafia theory -> line up with a thought process a townie would bring to the table regarding seeing what has unfolded here.
What makes you think they are informed?
Like seriously - people who say things you disagree with are not scum lol.
Can you outline why you think they are scum?
dont see much ai there and I dont feel much of a diff between town bringing that to the table to help and scum bringing it to the table to look helpful. I think I'd regard Kenny's posting as more motivated by looking good than Mistyx's tbh
worst, you need to *really* start ellaborating here because you are extremely vague and I am reading kenny's ISO and I don't see anything you're talking about while I am seeing it in misty's ISO.
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
"-in this game, there will be 7 town and 2-ish mafia."
2-ish
ok a traitor is on the table rofl
worstie gets a "plausible traitor" read for the ridiculous worldviews they keep presenting.
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
i reread the iso and it looks better while im tipsy rn lolol
VOTE: the worst
im feeling spicy.
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
if it really is worst + L+L i want to thank worst for essentially offering himself to be caught by intentionally trying to push on every one of my LHF townreads in the game
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
actually i did a metadive and im more confident in this vote now
town worst: more verbose, explains things, memes less
scum worst: short 1 liners, instigates, shallow thoughts, lots of questions/simple statements
and this game's worst falls into the latter category.
granted the town game i read was a replace in, so if worst wants to show that their depth of thought soon, that'd be great.
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
essentially when reading, I saw that scum worst is more likely to respond in a very dickhead manner to disagreements to beat down whoever is pushing him, as a way to discred, while town worst may be a little mean but its in a joking spirit.
didn't know that he was polarized like this but yeet.
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
Right now you're keeping the fire alight. Stop it.
In post 291, the worst wrote:I also think applying the rule of 3 to a MBoS game is somewhat silly but if we have a third n1 vig, one of the three is probably a mafia vigilante or at least informed scum (last I knew schadd really liked doing neat things with informdd roles)
I don't think any of them are maf vig tbh. 3 is so much neg town util and while I'd probably shoot L&L with 3 I'd also holster.
Also what lucidity I had has faded so going to struggle to interact.
TW has done this to me before, and I'll always scum read this kinda play.
I'd do Koba but I'm not really sure if I feel it. Their pushes are pretty clearly driven by what they want to do rather than actual reads. But I think its kind of a personality thing? But I'd also policy it?
i havent really been straight up
i obviously bluffed a few reads and extrapolated where data shouldnt be readable
and the mistyx read was ego wanting to be right based on opening tone
so like now that i did reread and reeval the slots i should have from the start, objective read list:
Top townreads:
Kenny - They are examining the game from the perspective of someone, to me, quite plainly uninformed. The mech spec and assumption that the ascetic claim is a scumclaim, is one that feels like a natural solving thought a townie would have in reaction to a claim. It is a type of doubt that i would doubt a scum would express in that situation and as well, kenny's tone and energy has matched that of the towngame we played together.
RCEnigma - this one is largely gut, but also decent amount of meta. i think also partially the gamestate spews this slot as town. the thoughts from this slot have mirrored my own at points and I find that to be a good sign from my POV. I at the very least would never touch this slot on D1 but overall I feel the energy from this slot is +++town
Enchant - At this point, I think I have figured out how to read this player at a near 100% accuracy rate. Enchant has a tonal tell between his scum and town games, and anyone who knows how to read tone can simply read enchant's meta to see what I mean. I don't think he's crept into locktown territory yet, as is the case with the rest of these players, but I expect the trajectory of this slot's posting will launch him there.
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i feel ok about these slots:
MistyX - While at first I was very suspicious of the slot due to the weak entrance, on reread I realize they have been subtly solving in their own way. I thought ignoring my argument was +scum but I guess I was just getting tunneled on wanting to be right very early on a solve. Still watching closely.
Flea - I largely feel somewhat of a mindmeld with this slot however im largely cautious as they had a similar feeling when they were scum against me in a game. I do not feel any gut urges to kill this slot right now however so I am willing to bin fae as town for today.
bugspray - a big stretch, I know. But their 2nd and 3rd posts tonally have the energy that I expect from a town!bugspray. I do want them to post more, however.
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the worst - this slot has heavily trended downwards since my initial gut townping on him. the worst continually makes takes that are, in my view, completely audacious and ridiculous. On top of this, I feel that the worst is trying to feel out where to push for mislims. I have prodded this slot to explain their reads in more depth and was met with resistance. A meta read shows that their posting in this game more closely resembles their scum meta - as it is fraught with short 1 liners and low depth thoughts.
L+L - Similar reasons as the worst, Ari primarily has been insistent on waving away all my olive branches and trying to refuge in audacity. I also have yet to be able to find either slot as towny - something I am able to do when they are, in fact town. I find that Ari is intentionally using bad faith arguments to paint me as scum trying to bury them on d1. They have made no real attempt to sort me, resorting to OMGUS. Also largely absent is any sort of solving from the Ari side, and what I have seen from the Datisi side has not really felt very genuine, as there has been really a lack of follow up or a clear progression I could read into. I really implore if this slot is town to please engage the game in a way that is more positive and proactive rather than reactive, because the game will be lost if this slot is actually town. I will try to do my best to see if I can see a solve with these players as town in the chance I am wrong and they are just an imploded slot, but I largely feel that may actually be just me being paranoid of being wrong.
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
In post 316, the worst wrote:I'd do Koba but I'm not really sure if I feel it. Their pushes are pretty clearly driven by what they want to do rather than actual reads. But I think its kind of a personality thing? But I'd also policy it?
also my reads list was not in response to this, but even if one wants to claim it is, that is quite a record time to write all that up in that case
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
L+L
MistyX
and you, worst. Can you tell me which push was one that you are claiming did not follow actual reads?
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
policying who is objectively the best scumhunter at the table is quite a take though, worst.
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
In post 320, DkKoba wrote:policying who is objectively the best scumhunter at the table is quite a take though, worst.
(this isnt to say other people are bad, I just really put a lot of effort and time and meticulous thought into games and read literally everything so naturally my reads tend to be more accurate than others. I am not as good as those that are able to find reads with less posts, etc. I simply have the ability to parse a lot of info and all, and I don't fault others for not being able to, as people are allowed to have a life)
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
the worst explain reads challenge and respond to counterpoints challenge [impossible][not clickbait]
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
but yeet.
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