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[KittyTacky]

Like. Either you were roleblocked and I'm sorry then or you are lying, and I feel the latter is FAR more likely because those two roles are unlikely to exist together as town.

[Enchant]

Did Scorpio claim something more?

[KittyTacky]

His points read to me as coming from a town POV.

could you explain?

Vibes. I really can't see how he is allegedly aware of alignments. Can you and angela elaborate on that?

it’s a process thing

like it feels like malcolmtucker is working backwards not forwards

like result first and then going to find reasons for it with everything that doesn’t really fit being ignored

to me

I... can kinda see it? It could be just a "make an assumption and then try to justify it" thing. I used to play like that as town.

[KittyTacky]

? i think most of what others think is scummy about scorpious is mechanical stuff that i don’t know if you’ve read? like this acting scummy but it’s actually towny thing you’re talking about here is pretty ??? to me

Ah I see. Where I don't know or have the mechanical information to directly counter the wagon as of yet. I do think they are Town from what I have read, and thus for this current moment I would rather any wagon apart from them.

scorpious claimed mailman day one
claimed sent message to me
i did not receive said message
scorpious either lying or roleblocked

Why would they claim that if they, as scum, knows they did not.

The alternative is that two roles, mailman (Scorp) and friendly neighbor (me) exist in the same game as town. They are very similar roles that send messages, it seems very unlikely.

[KittyTacky]

I refuse to believe that they are so foolish, and that it got allowed by the rest of the mafia, that they thought that fake-claiming a mailman to get you eliminated from framing you as ascetic, which wouldn't even incriminate you alone. The claim is very likely real irregardless of alignment or fake irregardless. From what I have seen, I do not think that they are scum just from this mechanical information.

If it's fake, I believe it to be even more likely from Town than if they were scum irregardless of it being a completely flawed play from what I see.

Who in their right mind would fake claim

f**king Mailman

as town and then not back out on the claim when being run up? What's the use case for this gambit?

[KittyTacky]

It would be much more reasonable to conclude scum has a roleblocker that wanted to incriminate them since they claimed prior to doing their action and would thus be prime time wagon material

yes that is the other possibility as i have already said

"the other possibility"

It's by far the most likely possibility.

i disagree

How so?

Scum would not claim a role that is going to be immediately disproven the next day, and thus it would not happen meaning that the claim itself is real, at least regarding the mailman aspect. If scum!scorp wanted to claim Mailman and get away with it, they would have killed you last night to hide that missing ability without resulting to the less likely roleblock and even less likely ascetic target/frame.

If they wanted to take you down with them, they would have claimed an investigative role that red-checked you. Claiming a mailman that action failed does not align with framing you, as it wouldn't no matter which way you look at it. Therefore, why would they claim mailman here as scum if they were not. It doesn't make any sense as to why they would claim that in the position they were in.

Explain to me how a scum claiming a mailman without being a mailman is ever a decision that happens.

He claimed bulletproof cop in another game and won. Also even if he is mailman then he's likely a scum mailman due to what I said earlier.

[KittyTacky]

Did Scorpio claim something more?

Nope, just mailman.

[Enchant]

He claimed bulletproof cop in another game and won. Also even if he is mailman then he's likely a scum mailman due to what I said earlier.

Bruh

[angela]

Also even if he is mailman then he's likely a scum mailman due to what I said earlier.

mafia mailman not actually sending a message after claiming mailman would be pretty ...

guess could also have technically been blocked by a town roleblocker but that would be ???

[angela]

VOTE: scorpious

e-2

[geraintm]

Also even if he is mailman then he's likely a scum mailman due to what I said earlier.

mafia mailman not actually sending a message after claiming mailman would be pretty ...

guess could also have technically been blocked by a town roleblocker but that would be ???

I have mentally ruled this out, for thr scenario to be mailman and Fn, and then the tow mailman to be blocked by town roleblocker who has then left today to fester like this....

[geraintm]

He claimed bulletproof cop in another game and won. Also even if he is mailman then he's likely a scum mailman due to what I said earlier.

Bruh

Is this you disbelieving the incident happened, or disbelieving he'd do it (day 1 claims as scum) again or you in disbelief scorpious is thay stupid?

[geraintm]

As i said, most likely claim is truth.

It just doesn't prove anything and not useful.

You do realise it isn't just the claim. It is the claim of a role so similar to another town role, and the message not going through and an accidental hammer of not mafia yesterday. We haven't gone after them for just one small thing.

[Enchant]

He claimed bulletproof cop in another game and won. Also even if he is mailman then he's likely a scum mailman due to what I said earlier.

Bruh

Is this you disbelieving the incident happened, or disbelieving he'd do it (day 1 claims as scum) again or you in disbelief scorpious is thay stupid?

I disbelieve town really managed to let it pass.

As i said, most likely claim is truth.

It just doesn't prove anything and not useful.

You do realise it isn't just the claim. It is the claim of a role so similar to another town role, and the message not going through and an accidental hammer of not mafia yesterday. We haven't gone after them for just one small thing.

As i said, claim is useless and doesh't prove anything, but most likely ARE real.

So we can as well go ahead.

[KittyTacky]

Also even if he is mailman then he's likely a scum mailman due to what I said earlier.

mafia mailman not actually sending a message after claiming mailman would be pretty ...

guess could also have technically been blocked by a town roleblocker but that would be ???

I have mentally ruled this out, for thr scenario to be mailman and Fn, and then the tow mailman to be blocked by town roleblocker who has then left today to fester like this....

It would be strange but here all scenarios are wack and unlikely.

[Nero Cain]

I would think a mailman would be a good town roleblock play b/c it seems like scum would just designate the mailman to be the killer instead of risking one of their other members. Whether I'd instantly think a mailman claim is a scum claim as opposed to a town mailman I'm not sure but it's a good block in theroy.

[Nero Cain]

I dislike gera's interaction with Jackson on the last page.

Are you caught up now, jax?

[geraintm]

I dislike gera's interaction with Jackson on the last page.

Are you caught up now, jax?

i was frustrated someone who had only read 10 pages was confidently telling people their reads were all wrong, without understanding why we had come to that posistion.

[geraintm]

I disbelieve town really managed to let it pass.


So we can as well go ahead.

you think we should have eliminated Scorpious day 1?

go ahead with what, eliminating Scorpious today?

[Enchant]

I disbelieve town really managed to let it pass.


So we can as well go ahead.

you think we should have eliminated Scorpious day 1?

go ahead with what, eliminating Scorpious today?

Bulletproof Cop claim lol..

[geraintm]

I disbelieve town really managed to let it pass.


So we can as well go ahead.

you think we should have eliminated Scorpious day 1?

go ahead with what, eliminating Scorpious today?

Bulletproof Cop claim lol..

pretty sure that wasn't me

[Andresvmb]

VOTE: geraintm

I apologize for trying to shut this down.

I think geraintm’s last set of posts pushing Scorpious seem of Scum that wants the day to end.

@Jackson, let’s do this.

[KittyTacky]

What? It seems like just backing up my and angela's push. On what planet is jumping onto a wagon on a widely-scumread player considered scummy by itself?

[Andresvmb]

What? It seems like just backing up my and angela's push. On what planet is jumping onto a wagon on a widely-scumread player considered scummy by itself?

I don’t want to have to say it, but Scorpious’ aggravation is starting to get to me. Unless someone can show that they’re the best actor around, I’m having a hard time seeing some of these posts as coming from Scum.

[Andresvmb]

And I’m unsure as to how you can even begin to defend geraintm to be honest. I didn’t want them executed because I didn’t think it would help get us any answers. I feel a bit different about it now, particularly after their contributions over the last few pages. Like geraintm seems too convinced Scorpious is Scum.