Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

[Sword of Ducks]

Sure.

VOTE: Nashville Dreams

now I don't trust you so much either bud

[Wallflower]

Sure.

VOTE: Nashville Dreams

now I don't trust you so much either bud

is there a reason for this?

[Cephrir]

votecount 1.8

catboi (6) | tictac, Tracer Bullet, MegAzumarill, Toogeloo, Flavor Leaf, MonkeyMan576

Nashville Dreams (4) | NorwegianboyEE, Save The Dragons, Wallflower, butterchurn

MonkeyMan576 (3) | Nashville Dreams, cassowary, bnuuy

bnuuy (2) | Menalque, catboi

Wallflower (1) | MalcolmTucker
Save The Dragons (1) | The Keeper
Menalque (1) | Well Done
MegAzumarill (1) | Cat Scratch Fever

Not Voting | Enchant, mastina, Sword of Ducks, Klick

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 09:41:00).

[catboi]

I'm sure it'll calm down in later days, it's a big game and people are posting a lot. Also, the pages only have 25 posts on them so it's not

quite

as much as it seems like

Unless it doesn't.

Depends on who's dead by then.

[MonkeyMan576]

Don't text and drive.

[catboi]

Why am I in the rest

I originally thought you were town because I thought your entrance to the game was very unlike your recent mini normal and large normal scumgames, with an appearance of more actively trying to solve rather than just saying things. But it seems to me that your recent posting has slipped into going with the flow rather than the more active participation that you started off the game with. It's not really a scumread, more that I don't have the same reason to form a townread that I once did, particularly compared to the players who are townreads for me.

How has my scumread on you been me going with the flow

I didn't think your scumread of me was scummy at all actually, and still read you as town at that point. It's the play since then that has concerned me.

I guess to elaborate on that, having some people think I'm town seems to have elicited more of a *shrug* reaction despite your reportedly strong scumread on me, whereas you have seemed more intent previously on arguing points that I would imagine would be more trivial for town-you, such as MonkeyMan's comment regarding VTs or even the mastina claim.

you made a comment on a post of mine after having previously read me as town and not really said much else, which I don't think could be reasonably expected to convince people who otherwise townread me

Does that really seem outside his town range if you've read his other games?

[Wallflower]

What do you mean by town range? I have glanced through a couple of the recent town and scum games and I don’t think this game is exactly like any of them but I think it can be common for scum to make a strong showing early and later fade

[catboi]

What do you mean by town range? I have glanced through a couple of the recent town and scum games and I don’t think this game is exactly like any of them but I think it can be common for scum to make a strong showing early and later fade

I mean the thing about working to convince other people of his scum read. That's not...typically how he plays as either alignment.

[Wallflower]

What do you mean by town range? I have glanced through a couple of the recent town and scum games and I don’t think this game is exactly like any of them but I think it can be common for scum to make a strong showing early and later fade

I mean the thing about working to convince other people of his scum read. That's not...typically how he plays as either alignment.

I didn’t think so, but tbh there seemed to be more effort put into getting people to vote Nashville than me, despite me apparently being the stronger scumread. would you say that he’s left his scum range here? I don’t have much reason to think he is scum beyond a lack of reason to think he is town, with the added thing that I think his play earlier in the game more closely resembled town than later in the game.

[catboi]

I'm not the best at reading him but he seems active and solvy here where he had a much lower presence in the large normal by the looks of it. Pretty correct that he tends more toward being background noise as scum.

[butterchurn]

I'm not very familiar with Save the Dragons (I think I saw him in a Newbie game that I read once?) but just from play he seems quite town here to me.

[catboi]

eh, actually skimming his posts I don't know. I'm too easily swayed by people defending me I think. I'll need more time to get a read there.

[Save The Dragons]

I like to have an air of mystery around me

[Save The Dragons]

Is he town? Is he scum? Science doesn't know

[butterchurn]

I'm not sure if anyone here knows who this is, but you remind me of Jon Bois. Which is a compliment, by the way.

[Save The Dragons]

I have no idea who that is but thank you

[catboi]

I'm not sure if anyone here knows who this is, but you remind me of Jon Bois. Which is a compliment, by the way.

I know the funny sports guy but haven't followed him since he started doing videos more than writing stuff. And also because I stopped wanting to visit SB Nation.

[catboi]

Wanted to do more but I'm really beat tonight sorry. I need time to actually focus on this game and I'll have it tomorrow.

[butterchurn]

I'm not sure if anyone here knows who this is, but you remind me of Jon Bois. Which is a compliment, by the way.

I know the funny sports guy but haven't followed him since he started doing videos more than writing stuff. And also because I stopped wanting to visit SB Nation.

The videos are great. In this case I think the resemblance is mostly to his twitter, though.

[tictac]

like, stop me stop me, oh stop me if I'm wrong

but it seems like this boils down to

Norwee: I have a serious read/conviction that you're scum but the

manner

in which I'm pushing it means that it can be characterised as light-hearted

malc: if you push someone that is aimed at affecting the outcome of the game and is by definition not something that can be lighthearted, therefore you're being contradictory

I think this probably comes down to malc being a newer player vs norwee having been around for a while

this one

[tictac]

I'm sure that once people catch up and read the thread and see how the last few pages have progressed, from a detached point of view, they should see that the behavior is hard to imagine coming from town.

[mastina]

Wouldn’t it be funny if Mastina’s huge explanation of their usage of an system they cannot really describe in full because of hod complex it is, is just an fancy way of saying: "gut check"

I mean gut is always used in even the most logical of systems since no system has a "100% guaranteed" tell that will

always

indicate an alignment. If a tell is 75-25, you still have to use gut to determine if it's the 75 or the 25. Statistically speaking, it'll usually be the 75 because it wouldn't be 75-25 if the 75 wasn't more common than the 25, but statistically speaking, it still can be the 25 because it wouldn't be 75-25 if there wasn't a 25.

How do you have a scum lean on a slot that never even picked up their role PM?

momo will be replaced if they fail to pick up their role PM by tomorrow morning.

Momo didn't skip out on the game because they didn't like their role PM. They didn't even open it.

While this seems like a fair argument initially, it falls apart when you realize one simple fact.

You don't need to look at your

role PM

to know that you have drawn scum.

You can just

look at your private topics

and tell that you have drawn scum.

Tell me: how can Cephrir differentiate between "momo has not viewed the PM or the scum PT at all", and, "momo did not view the PM, viewed the scum PT, but just didn't post in the scum PT"?

The two are entirely inseparable to him. But the difference between the former and the latter is a difference in likely alignment for the slot.

And since momo flakes more often as scum and momo need not read his role PM to learn that he is scum, trying to clear yourself from momo having not read the role PM doesn't actually work. In fact, it's the opposite; it makes the slot

more

likely to be scum--not less.

[Menalque]

If a tell is 75-25, you still have to use gut to determine if it's the 75 or the 25.

That would entirely defeat the point of having a tell that works 75% of the time unless your gut was also accurate 75% of the time, in which case you wouldn’t need your gut. The point of having a tell with decent accuracy is that you follow it regardless of what your gut says because it improves your overall accuracy.

Your point on mono is depressingly good though

[Menalque]

If a tell is 75-25, you still have to use gut to determine if it's the 75 or the 25.

That would entirely defeat the point of having a tell that works 75% of the time unless your gut was also accurate 75% of the time, in which case you wouldn’t need the tell. The point of having a tell with decent accuracy is that you follow it regardless of what your gut says because it improves your overall accuracy.

Your point on mono is depressingly good though

Ebwop

[tictac]

tbh the back and forth between TB & mena made me want to mix coke, heroin and bleach and self place an IV in an artery to just get it over with

it was terrible

do not recommend reading

snorted.
also too late