Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

[Menalque]

Whats dunn at anyway?

[bnuuy]

Ah, i think Monkey could have been a wolf sitting on Catboi then.

It makes sense why they backed off when we said to let Flavor shoot Mastina.

what prompted this?

[bnuuy]

I could vote Klick, I've scumread him for a while now. The thing making me hesitate is that I feel like voting inside the masonry might be mechanically suboptimal? Can someone better at mech than me chime in

Hands down it is. We have 4 people alive who cannot be wolves.

But it's not so bad that I won't stop a wagon from forming yet with no strong scumreads.

~Titus

This confuses me
How does number of confirmed not-wolves affect whether Klick is a good vote? Klick is confirmed not-mafia here.

[Nashville Dreams]

I could vote Klick, I've scumread him for a while now. The thing making me hesitate is that I feel like voting inside the masonry might be mechanically suboptimal? Can someone better at mech than me chime in

Hands down it is. We have 4 people alive who cannot be wolves.

But it's not so bad that I won't stop a wagon from forming yet with no strong scumreads.

~Titus

This confuses me
How does number of confirmed not-wolves affect whether Klick is a good vote? Klick is confirmed not-mafia here.

My point was that voting monks masons or csf is bad.

~Titus

[bnuuy]

People act like killing a partner as scum is something that I would ever do or come up with.

You can't just force kill a scum partner.

It can make sense in a singleball setup -> but definitely not here in multiball.

I have seen Alisae seriously consider it in a setup where eliminating scum day 3 guaranteed a win and only didnt because she had a win con available.

I actually saw Alisae dayvig a partner and go on to win as scum once

[bnuuy]

I could vote Klick, I've scumread him for a while now. The thing making me hesitate is that I feel like voting inside the masonry might be mechanically suboptimal? Can someone better at mech than me chime in

Hands down it is. We have 4 people alive who cannot be wolves.

But it's not so bad that I won't stop a wagon from forming yet with no strong scumreads.

~Titus

This confuses me
How does number of confirmed not-wolves affect whether Klick is a good vote? Klick is confirmed not-mafia here.

My point was that voting monks masons or csf is bad.

~Titus

wording could have been better then

[bnuuy]

Part of me thinks Mathblade/Monkey could be a wolf here who got roleblocked by Mastina, and it stopped a kill.

The angleshooting/scum kill scum I generally see coming from scum.

Monkey sitting on Catboi, but really was just being a cheerleader could be a bus vote they didnt expect to go through. But then Catboi flipped Wolf, and they turned, and happened to claim a role that was already out there.

But now they have more?

It’s also a literal fact scum killed scum unless you believe that a vig killed butter

Like ??? I don’t get your thought process here

You sound more pissed that I am trying to sort you versus actual reasoning

And when I try to proceed forward asking questions not about you it’s shade?

malefactor was not informed of either scumteam's identities
so a malefactor kill is not really "scum killing scum" in a tangible sense

[bnuuy]

Im gonna check your alignment tonight

run away

So Ydrasse was going to check Enchants alignment

Ydrasse died because they were attached to malcolm's role, and Enchant died because they hammered Malcolm.

???
how was ydrasse attached to malcolm?

[bnuuy]

Mafia Loathed 2-shot Activated Wolfsbane 1-shot Roleblocker

Loathed: If this player is eliminated or killed by Town during the Day, the first elimination of the Day will not end the Day, and will be followed by an additional elimination.

Activated Wolfsbane: Chooses nights to become immune to wolf kills.

oh, wait.

it specifically only is immune to wolf kills. I felt like there were people earlier trying to wonder why Mastina didnt protect themselves, gonna have to go back and check out who was saying that.

this feels disingenuous

[bnuuy]

Enchant/Ydrasse died because Malcolm was faded. They weren't taken out.

neither of them knew Malcolm was that role.

this is a misportrayal of the facts
enchant essentially got himself booted from the game, and because enchant was mafia-aligned he was allowed a vengekill, which he used on ydrasse
so the ydrasse removal should absolutely be analyzed like a nightkill

[bnuuy]

oh, Enchant chose Ydrasse.

I thought Ydrasse died because of being connected to Malcolm.

Hmm.

Eh, she claimed Parity Cop. Ydrasse didn't say anything about who they were checking, as far as I recall.

I was pushing her as a Catboi buddy.

reading flips is tech

[bnuuy]

now that I see your thought process in full I get how you said ydrasse's death was attached to malcolm's tho

[MathBlade]

Might also be checking fl
2 be continued...

Yes. The person from masonry did check fl, and he does have a gun.
Is now also claiming 1 shot, which is new. Believes it doesn't conflict w monkeyman.
So **shrug**
VOTE: leaf

@Titus I was trying to take a look at Cassoway’s iso and this post game up as I was looking at related posts.

Why are you acting like this is a new thing?

[Nashville Dreams]

Might also be checking fl
2 be continued...

Yes. The person from masonry did check fl, and he does have a gun.
Is now also claiming 1 shot, which is new. Believes it doesn't conflict w monkeyman.
So **shrug**
VOTE: leaf

@Titus I was trying to take a look at Cassoway’s iso and this post game up as I was looking at related posts.

Why are you acting like this is a new thing?

#confused, too many pronouns to answer and not sure what you're talking about.

[MathBlade]

Might also be checking fl
2 be continued...

Yes. The person from masonry did check fl, and he does have a gun.
Is now also claiming 1 shot, which is new. Believes it doesn't conflict w monkeyman.
So **shrug**
VOTE: leaf

@Titus I was trying to take a look at Cassoway’s iso and this post game up as I was looking at related posts.

Why are you acting like this is a new thing?

#confused, too many pronouns to answer and not sure what you're talking about.

You acted surprised about my gunsmith claim.

It was claimed D1/2 whichever this post is from.

So why are you surprised by it?

[Cephrir]

votecount 3.4

Menalque (3) | cassowary, Save The Dragons, SCP 682
Dunnstral (3) | MathBlade, Nero Cain, Nashville Dreams

cassowary (2) | Cat Scratch Fever, Klick
Sword of Ducks (2) | tictac, Menalque

MathBlade (1) | Flavor Leaf
Cat Scratch Fever (1) | The Keeper

Not Voting | MegAzumarill, Dunnstral, Sword of Ducks, bnuuy

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-06-01 09:03:00).

[Nashville Dreams]

Might also be checking fl
2 be continued...

Yes. The person from masonry did check fl, and he does have a gun.
Is now also claiming 1 shot, which is new. Believes it doesn't conflict w monkeyman.
So **shrug**
VOTE: leaf

@Titus I was trying to take a look at Cassoway’s iso and this post game up as I was looking at related posts.

Why are you acting like this is a new thing?

#confused, too many pronouns to answer and not sure what you're talking about.

You acted surprised about my gunsmith claim.

It was claimed D1/2 whichever this post is from.

So why are you surprised by it?

I'm having trouble keeping track with my illnesses and work. That's why I have people check my work.

~Titus

[Nashville Dreams]

Do you think my analysis on Flavor is correct?

~Titus

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: dunn

[MathBlade]

Here's my thinking

If we suppose FL is town, then it's likely both scumteams ignored their shot N1.
N2 we should then have three kills: vig, mafia, and wolf. Flavor's kill is present and on mastina.
a) if mafia then shot butterchurn, then mastina's block target was likely wolf shooting someone. This creates a big FoS on Mathblade.
b) if wolves shot butterchurn, then mafia wouldn't block themselves. mafia then likely shot someone very popular.

If we suppose FL is mafia, then we should see a maximum of one kill. This is for the following reasons

a) FL flipped targets twice. While FL could be a mafia 1 shot vig in a monkery, that would be borderline bastard so I'm excluding it. Therefore, a kill on N3 for mafia cannot happen. FL is out of shots supposedly so that could not happen. The only kill that could happen N3 is a ww kill. If we see two shots tonight, FL is confirmed town.

Therefore, if mafia want to keep FL in the elimination pool, they have to no kill tonight in addition to no killing N1.

For now, it's best to assume FL is telling the truth.

~Titus

I can vibe this and I get the FoS

But keep in mind assume incorrectly I am scum I just never talk about my no result on Klick lol.

@Titus literally my response?

[Nashville Dreams]

Here's my thinking

If we suppose FL is town, then it's likely both scumteams ignored their shot N1.
N2 we should then have three kills: vig, mafia, and wolf. Flavor's kill is present and on mastina.
a) if mafia then shot butterchurn, then mastina's block target was likely wolf shooting someone. This creates a big FoS on Mathblade.
b) if wolves shot butterchurn, then mafia wouldn't block themselves. mafia then likely shot someone very popular.

If we suppose FL is mafia, then we should see a maximum of one kill. This is for the following reasons

a) FL flipped targets twice. While FL could be a mafia 1 shot vig in a monkery, that would be borderline bastard so I'm excluding it. Therefore, a kill on N3 for mafia cannot happen. FL is out of shots supposedly so that could not happen. The only kill that could happen N3 is a ww kill. If we see two shots tonight, FL is confirmed town.

Therefore, if mafia want to keep FL in the elimination pool, they have to no kill tonight in addition to no killing N1.

For now, it's best to assume FL is telling the truth.

~Titus

I can vibe this and I get the FoS

But keep in mind assume incorrectly I am scum I just never talk about my no result on Klick lol.

@Titus literally my response?

Literally my brain....

*mush*

[Menalque]

VOTE: dunn

[MathBlade]

Here's my thinking

If we suppose FL is town, then it's likely both scumteams ignored their shot N1.
N2 we should then have three kills: vig, mafia, and wolf. Flavor's kill is present and on mastina.
a) if mafia then shot butterchurn, then mastina's block target was likely wolf shooting someone. This creates a big FoS on Mathblade.
b) if wolves shot butterchurn, then mafia wouldn't block themselves. mafia then likely shot someone very popular.

If we suppose FL is mafia, then we should see a maximum of one kill. This is for the following reasons

a) FL flipped targets twice. While FL could be a mafia 1 shot vig in a monkery, that would be borderline bastard so I'm excluding it. Therefore, a kill on N3 for mafia cannot happen. FL is out of shots supposedly so that could not happen. The only kill that could happen N3 is a ww kill. If we see two shots tonight, FL is confirmed town.

Therefore, if mafia want to keep FL in the elimination pool, they have to no kill tonight in addition to no killing N1.

For now, it's best to assume FL is telling the truth.

~Titus

I can vibe this and I get the FoS

But keep in mind assume incorrectly I am scum I just never talk about my no result on Klick lol.

@Titus literally my response?

Literally my brain....

*mush*

When it’s not mush let’s talk.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: dunn

Point of note Menalque wouldn’t vote Klick but would vote Dunn. As an FYI for later

[Klick]

It's not really news that Menalque and I read each other as town here