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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2022 6:21 am

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Like I'm actually a little baffled of where the "excitement" thing like... comes into play at all, or why you're zeroed in on that as a reason to suspect me when I think that my
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It feels like a wild misrepresentation or misunderstanding of me as a player. I don't know if that's inherently scummy, honestly, but it's just... baffling.
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2022 6:23 am

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In post 574, Fey wrote:Also it's weird to frame this as... an excitement thing, like. What. That doesn't make sense that you have to qualify it as excited = town or whatever you're doing here.
the most recent game i played with you is the one i'm using to read your emotional state as that game you linked was six months ago. you were EXTREMELY excited to play town in spring fling and i know you dislike playing wolf.

your argument with me early game felt like you were grasping at something to use to appear as if you're solving when you didn't feel like playing.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2022 6:23 am

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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2022 6:24 am

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In post 344, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 306, Gammagooey wrote:As a sidenote, I disagree with your Dunn townread - I think I've seen like 3 people say they townread him and to me he looks the same as he did in the last game I was in where he was scum (Slaughter Hour), and I don't remember him being different in World of Tomorrow where we were both scum with him either (though my memory of that game isn't great tbf and I checked out a bit after I died). Like I haven't seen him as town in ages and it's still early game, but his vibe still seems like *he exists a little bit but never sticks his neck out and makes a big deal of anything relevant*.
I'll try to give this a read later. Most times I have seen Dunn scum, he hasn't seemed very comfortable or proactive D1, which is the vibe I'm getting this game. Admittedly, it's a very weak reason to meta read someone. Definitely not a lock read for me, but I had recently written that in my notes when datisi asked for takes, so I figured I should just disclose to give us something outside bell/marci/datisi to talk about generally.
In post 573, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 571, Datisi wrote:
In post 568, Fey wrote:To save the posts for you of asking/questioning, etc, I'm Ydrasse.
now that you've outed - this was my reasoning for suspecting fey. i figured it was ydrasse but her questioning of me felt very boring an unexcited. which is very much not how excited-town!ydrasse plays and instead feels like she's trying to appear solvy in a game she does not want to be playing.
Funny, I had Fey in my notes as either town or deepwolf.

I kind of liked their approach to the game, even if it was space. I guess I need to look at some town ydrasse games.
oh yeah, another thing that made me wanna yeet baltar into the fucking sun.

since when do you take notes in a game that is 300 posts long.
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2022 6:28 am

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In post 576, Datisi wrote:
In post 574, Fey wrote:Also it's weird to frame this as... an excitement thing, like. What. That doesn't make sense that you have to qualify it as excited = town or whatever you're doing here.
the most recent game i played with you is the one i'm using to read your emotional state as that game you linked was six months ago. you were EXTREMELY excited to play town in spring fling and i know you dislike playing wolf.

your argument with me early game felt like you were grasping at something to use to appear as if you're solving when you didn't feel like playing.
Oh, I think I understand part of the disconnect here.

I play radically different on Ydrasse compared to my alts. Even if it's not different... logically I guess, I can't change how I think, I tend towards being... more like this during them. The alts that are obviously me but I don't out and say it but I type fancier.

Ydrasse is me as... Ydrasse, socially. This is me as Me, sort of Ydrasse, sort of not.

Also... I don't dislike playing wolf at all... in fact I enjoy it a lot, maybe more than town, just not when I roll it 10 times in a row.
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2022 6:38 am

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In post 578, Datisi wrote:since when do you take notes in a game that is 300 posts long.
Uh oh, are you scum?
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2022 6:40 am

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In post 2, Prism wrote:Citizen of Selah: You have your voice and your vote. You also have your own dedicated private topic, which can be found here
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2022 6:43 am

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my question stands. iirc, in guardians you said town!you uses notes if you have to read a lot or if you're replacing in or whatever. 300 posts is not really A Lot.

just because you HAVE a notes pt, i don't see why town!you would be very inclined to also USE it if you don't use it usually in these circumstances.
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2022 6:49 am

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In post 568, Fey wrote:To save the posts for you of asking/questioning, etc, I'm Ydrasse.
You basically already outed with lol
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2022 7:02 am

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It took me awhile, but I've warmed to Lukewarm.

I still think we should probably kill Sircakez or R&R.
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2022 7:08 am

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Is it because I said I didn't want you to die today? lol
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2022 7:11 am

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In post 584, Bell wrote:I still think we should probably kill Sircakez or R&R.
ok let's do it

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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2022 7:34 am

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In post 582, Datisi wrote:my question stands. iirc, in guardians you said town!you uses notes if you have to read a lot or if you're replacing in or whatever. 300 posts is not really A Lot.

just because you HAVE a notes pt, i don't see why town!you would be very inclined to also USE it if you don't use it usually in these circumstances.
Primary reason has been to keep me from wasting posts. Lots of times I'll note errant impressions in thread or leave notes to myself about things I want to look at later so I don't forget, but with prism making the PT already, I have a place to put that stuff when I'm not already making a game relevant post.

I find it weird you'd think I just wouldn't use it when it is there.
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2022 7:42 am

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meh, alright, i'll let you live for now
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2022 9:03 am

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In post 588, Datisi wrote:meh, alright, i'll let you live for now
Weird flex on your scumslip
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2022 9:07 am

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In post 588, Datisi wrote:meh, alright, i'll let you live for now
This post reads like something Shadow the Hedgehog would say
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2022 10:15 am

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In post 584, Bell wrote:It took me awhile, but I've warmed to Lukewarm.

I still think we should probably kill Sircakez or R&R.
I warmed to Lukewarm with that Marci case.

I also think Marci might be town, but I really felt like I connected to that Lukewarm case.
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2022 10:51 am

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In post 506, Kovu wrote:I did like the pressure we put on marci though
put it back then ;)
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2022 11:12 am

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More sircakez votes.

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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2022 12:56 pm

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i think val actually makes a good point on page 21.

also i dont like how bandwagony sircakez is.. and without even fully reading! he said he was skimming.
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2022 2:26 pm

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In post 531, Lukewarm wrote:Reading his posts, he does not feel like he is actively trying to sort the PL.

He jumped onto the Datisi on page 2. And then he has road that vote through his whole iso.

The only other person he has engaged in in a substantive way was Kovu, who he has not even committed to a scum read on. More "Can't town read" and "it does appear Kovu has somewhat of a preoccupation with my slot."

It feels like it skips the step of asking whether that makes Kovu town or scum, or why scum kovu would do that or why town kovu wouldn't be, ect.

Other then that, I can't see where he is trying to sort any slot. I cannot tell you a single town read that Val has after re-reading his entire iso.
Ok, I read Luke's full case post-by-post.

My assessment is that Luke is perhaps being a little nitpicky and ignoring some context around the exchanges Val is having...HOWEVER...I think luke raises a valid point that Val is pretty narrowly focused on who they are interacting with. It's basically just Datisi and Kovu.

Val, can we get some gut reads from you at least. I know you said you didn't want to disclose giant scum lists, or whatever, but i'd like to know a few town and scum reads out of you outside of datisi.
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2022 2:32 pm

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I kinda think malakittens is town this game. Their reads have subtlety and uncertainty that she lacked when we were scum together in KTANE. (Although, she replaced into that game, so I can't quite give the full town pass just yet. Will keep watching.)
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2022 4:13 pm

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In post 596, VP Baltar wrote:Their reads have subtlety and uncertainty that she lacked when we were scum together in KTANE.
Ok, I skimmed her ISO in that game and I agree that it is extremely one dimensional (and different from tako's early posts). Maybe I'm tunneling, so I'll unvote for now.
Do you think it's possible being on an alt could account for the difference in tone?
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2022 4:17 pm

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I have returned, but I can't read tonight.
Tomorrow I should have some thoughts for y'all.
As always I will ask for any things
That people think that I should focus on.
(And just as always, no one will oblige.)

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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2022 4:39 pm

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In post 598, Rhyme and Reason wrote:As always I will ask for any things
That people think that I should focus on.
You never asked though?
How do you read Datisi?

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