In post 620, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 601, Gammagooey wrote:I personally feel like if VPB is scum it isn't because of the reasons Fey+fire are bringing up about picking fights and calling fire's push ridiculous. I think he's being reasonable in his responses and the cheekiness/pushiness/whatever you want to call it is just VPB being VPB. Like I don't think I'm actually good at reading VPB until a couple flips happen and I can see where he was pushing and when/why, but I've played with VPB in enough games over the last decade to get a decent understanding of his posting personality at least.
I feel like you're doing a good amount of soft defending me, which I don't really mind I guess, but why? What's your read on Fey right now as well?
I feel like from a non-you outside perspective I'd be waffling on you more than soft-defending, I've got one post telling Lukewarm that you shouldn't be on his do-not-kill list and another not that long after saying that you aren't scum for the reasons two people are giving out
I generally enjoy playing with you a think you're definitely in the upper half of players in terms of skill level in the game, I'd feel shitty if I let you get run up instead of pointing out things said about you that I think are pretty likely objectively wrong, even if you are still just a barely nulltown read of mine at the moment.
Fey's a slightly town read just b/c none of her posts have pinged me as scummy at all so far, but I also have been periodically forgetting that she's in the game at all until a post of hers pops up when I'm looking for things other people mention. Feels a little similar to her lategame in Slaughter Hour when peta+Taly drowned the game in noise and she just peacefully checked out, but I know she's a competent player and I'm expecting her to be more of a presence in the next couple gamedays.
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fireisredsir wrote: In post 736, Lukewarm wrote:
I really did not like the way that her scum read on datisi played out, but her reaction to being under pressure/suspicion feels distinctly like town marci imo
hmm. i kinda felt that earlier (like around her response to you
106, and
213 specifically felt like how she posted in newbie 2090), but haven't liked her more recent posting much at all
i haven't played with her before (besides when she was gragas, which i only recently realized while looking at her past games), so maybe you have a better handle on her meta, idk. can you point out specific things that stood out to you that made you think that?
I'd also like specifics on that
I'm pretty surprised I'm not more on marci's radar/scumreads atm - I've been if not defending Datisi himself directly, pretty present in both generally agreeing with him+his reads and in telling Val that I think the reason he's scumreading Datisi is garbo, and it just feels pretty disconnected from her reading Datisi as scum so strongly. Plus I'm used to a more frantic energy from newish town players who have that level of confidence in a read - throwing other possible people that could be scum with the person they're 100% scum on, either attacking the people scumreading them for being other possible scum or throwing up walls that include one or both of "I'm not scum because meta reasons"/"This post from my scum read makes me think even more that they're scum and I don't get why nobody else sees it". Like I think the smug snipes at people and her last post of "oh yeah there are more/other reasons now" and the general tone she's presenting here is more likely to come from scum than town in her position.
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I uh also read over Cakez's re-entrance to the game like 3 times and utterly failed to come out with a read on it. I don't think anyone wants to read/cares about the details of me waffling on that read so I'm just gonna give it another attempt day 2 or something
I've got a lot of work I need to get done today but since deadline's getting closeish I'll be around at least a little after work today as an fyi
