Mafia Invictus Redux [Game Over]

[SirCakez]

Sorry I owe you guys content

[SirCakez]

I'm really far behind so I'm gonna skim so I can give something

[SirCakez]

Ya but going back to EoD1 wagons usually doesn't go great

This might be pertinent, with the other EoD1 wagon now sat on E-2.

What makes you say this, Cakez?

Just experiences in the past where we double slimmed town day 1 and 2 in a row because people automatically go "oh one of them was town therefore the other must have been scum"

[SirCakez]

Last sentence kinda confusing. I want to vote cakez or my new shiny scumread more than Dunn

Weren't you just sheeping me on Dunn? This doesn't add up

[SirCakez]

I AM SO SORRY IM SUCH A BAD PERSON

Marci scum claiming

[SirCakez]

I mean, I have info that I'm almost certain clears cakez so yeah, he's not being limmed here

Remember in Ktane when you lied multiple times as town. You should stop doing that.

I know what Kovu is referring to it is legitimate not a lie

[Rhyme and Reason]

I was hoping that Mena'd have a chance to do something since he seemed interested in finishing up and sharing his reads (and he has some outstanding questions to address), but it seems like he's been super busy lately. I'll try and coordinate with him about deciding on a vote, I guess, if nothing else.

-Reason

[SirCakez]

Mentally I'm just shot right now irl
if someone has something for me to sheep let me look at it otherwise I just want to lim a universal scumread
Sorry guys

[SirCakez]

I choose a player, and if we are Invictus targeting the same player, our Invictus target dies. I am functionally a gated vigilante. That is why, when Bell outed as confirmed town I asked him this question.

And this is a town claim even though Luke's reads are bad rn

[SirCakez]

Gorilla vs Luke is ass and obviously TvT

[VP Baltar]

I mean, I have info that I'm almost certain clears cakez so yeah, he's not being limmed here

Remember in Ktane when you lied multiple times as town. You should stop doing that.

I know what Kovu is referring to it is legitimate not a lie

Ok, think I know what it is now. We can discuss later.

[SirCakez]

Ok, I actually think marci just claimed scum.

VOTE: Marcistar

This post.

Nah, kovu is town. This kind of ridiculousness is pretty town indicative, imo.

idk i remember when i was scum with andate in like holiday dance party she got townread for some shit similar to this

i dont see why what shes done is town indicative? like og i saw it but the more i look at it the more its similar vibes yknow?

Marci's main point is "I was scum with andante and she played like this" what? the lack of talking I'm doing? I literally have more posts than you. Similar vibes? the vibes are not similar at all. Holiday I was dead lost and didn't read any of the game. I even said that 50 million times in scum chat to yall. Here I'm actively around, sure this week got crazy, but I've still been here and responded to everyone saying Kovu. So what is this main argument you have for me being scum then? Cause I'm not seeing it.

It really feels like you're calling me scum for my "lack of spamming" here on day 2, but when I literally have more posts than you, 10 times more than mala, it's just like, what is the basis to your argument here for me being scum?

> I don't see what she's done that's town indicative
Ok um, didn't realize we were playing "Guilty until proven innocent" but, can you honestly give me towny points for everyone else here that you can't give for me?


So back to the main point, I truly believe this is a scumclaim from marci. she sees that I've been "lurking/coasting" and just goes "oh yeah, when I was scum with you you did that!!" like, why is that anyone's first thought, back to the 1 game you were my scum partner for a game in December... where I was home with family, and not thinking about literally any other game? I think the simple explanation is quite simply marci is just maf, and thinks this is a "good" argument to appear townier, but I quite simply don't buy it, and I don't believe there's good intentions behind it, pretty clearly looks like a scum claim to me.

Now marci, if you wanna back up this claim you're making with specific posts, I'd love to hear more, but if you thought I wasn't gonna stand up for myself, and that I'd be an easy push, you'd be mistaken.

I could definitely Lim Marci

[Meuh]

VOTE: Marcistar
Probably the best option at this point?
I'm feeling like my suspicion on VPB might be tainted by annoyance

[SirCakez]

VOTE: marci

[fireisredsir]

VOTE: Marcistar
Probably the best option at this point?
I'm feeling like my suspicion on VPB might be tainted by annoyance

didn't like the vp vote and wasn't really expecting to see this but i think i might like this post actually

VOTE: marci

let's do it

[Meuh]

The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2022-06-12 15:30:00).

[Dwlee99]

It's day 2 with no scum flips and also if you're town you have no idea how right I am except on you and you're objectively playing like your last scum game so you shouldn't be surprised I scumread you here

I objectively play the same way as either alignment. You have played with me enough to know this. There are subtle differences that are obvious to me, but you being like "you said I was trolling you in a scum game too!" is dogshit reasoning.

At some point, if you're town, it'd be cool if you took a modicum of responsibility for your own play here.

I think I'm taking responsibility. It isn't just you saying I'm trolling you or something, it's that you're pushing for my mislim the same way you pushed for it last game, down to appeals to my intelligence and how you're "trying to be reasonable." You repeatedly claim I'm pushing you in bad faith when I've been good faith reading you while you continually push me with bad faith snark and interpretation. You've repeated falsehoods multiple times and misrepresent me to say I'm repeating debunked stuff, which I've not done at all. I also think that you seem anxious to lim me for basically no reason when you know I heat up the later the game goes, and that seems like something scum!you would prioritize given last game.

[Dwlee99]

Last sentence kinda confusing. I want to vote cakez or my new shiny scumread more than Dunn

Weren't you just sheeping me on Dunn? This doesn't add up

You skipped stuff, your OMGUS thing doesn't exist

[Gammagooey]

VOTE: Marcistar
Probably the best option at this point?
I'm feeling like my suspicion on VPB might be tainted by annoyance

didn't like the vp vote and wasn't really expecting to see this but i think i might like this post actually

VOTE: marci

let's do it

I don't like the post but I'm perfectly down for killing any of Dunn/marci/Meuh that can actually happen today
VOTE: marci

[fireisredsir]

I don't like the post

what about the post do you not like?

[VP Baltar]

Didn't marci claim some kind of info on RR? I thought we had already gone down this path.

[Meuh]

Didn't marci claim some kind of info on RR? I thought we had already gone down this path.

That was Mala iirc
Don't think Marci's been claiming any sort of info or pr

[VP Baltar]

oh. I must have mixed them up, I think you're right. Makes sense why I couldn't find it in Marci's ISO.

VOTE: marci

fine then. I don't love that this is not going to yield alot of connections since it wasn't a main point of discussion today, but marci hasn't done anything since datisi, so could be a lurker on the scum team.

[Gammagooey]

@fire - marci hasn't done anything new except annoy Kovu and continue the *not doing shit* she's done the whole game, and it could be Meuh realizing that she's the main wagon and that marci's the next best option if a VPB wagon doesn't get off the ground

But on the other hand I think it could a)very easily be bussing or b)I could just be wrong about Meuh being scum so I'm very disinclined to give a shit when a wagon on an actual scumread of mine can go through instead of the one on Dwlee

[Meuh]

@fire - marci hasn't done anything new except annoy Kovu and continue the *not doing shit* she's done the whole game, and it could be Meuh realizing that she's the main wagon and that marci's the next best option if a VPB wagon doesn't get off the ground

But on the other hand I think it could a)very easily be bussing or b)I could just be wrong about Meuh being scum so I'm very disinclined to give a shit when a wagon on an actual scumread of mine can go through instead of the one on Dwlee

Yeah, it's kind of unlikely for a wagon you like to go through, without anyone you feel mildly suspicious of jumping on it. Especially early on in a game this size.
Broadly speaking, the actions of whoever's getting wagoned > the people on said wagon, so I kinda like this mindset