Open 859 - C9++ - Postgame

[Alianna]

1.15

Votecount 1.15

Enchant (4): Hiraki, Lucian, Cat Scratch Fever, BlueBloodedToffee
BlueBloodedToffee (2): Infinity 324, froggodoggo
Cat Scratch Fever (1): furtiveglance
Malakittens (1): Enchant
Hiraki (1): Klick

Not Voting (4): Malakittens, Dunnstral, Gamma Emerald, Aisa

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2022-07-24 18:36:43).

[Aisa]

I can get on board with BBT. VOTE: BBT
Will come up with some questions or something tomorrow

[furtiveglance]

Where did my CSF wagon go? I feel like they are scum still.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

That's a really interesting response. Almost every reply so far has you down as town Froggo, and I would have to agree. I wondered whether anyone would pick it up and run with it but they haven't.

Your responses felt honest and genuine, if you're scum, you have AtE'd me enough to buy yourself another Day at least. I am really surprised no-one has scum read you though.

I probably shouldn't reply so soon but I don't see it going anywhere unfortunately.

Pedit - Oh a BBT wagon so close to deadline. Shit's about to get interesting.

[furtiveglance]

But, I prefer voting BBT to Enchant, and seeing as everyone else has moved, I will too. I wouldn't do this is CSF was close to plurality.

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: BBT

This feels good.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

What would you say your 3 most confident non-froggo reads are right now? Either Town or scum.

Excluding Hiraki for obvious reasons.

Froggo and yourself - town reads.

Furtive - scum read.

[furtiveglance]

Comment on Enchant, CSF and GE.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

No

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You've been angling for a BBT vote all day long but you didn't have the balls to push it.

Waiting for someone else to do your dirty work. I see you.

[furtiveglance]

I've had you in my sights, and now others see the light.

Half-rhyme

[BlueBloodedToffee]

First thing I noticed is that they're not even voting you.

This describes your play all of today, does it not?

[furtiveglance]

Not voting froggo?

[froggodoggo]

I am really surprised no-one has scum read you though.

Samesies. at this point if I were scum I would've told my partners to SR me so that town doesn't get paranoid about my slot.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Not voting froggo?

No. Shading me for all of D1 and not voting me

[furtiveglance]

Not voting froggo?

No. Shading me for all of D1 and not voting me

190, 202, 301 and 342 mention you, not many of my posts, before I started explaining my read on you in earnest earlier today.

I also pushed/sussed Infinity, CSF (a lot), Dunnstral, GE and Malakittens today. You're not special.

[Dunnstral]

Can you remind me why you suspect me

[BlueBloodedToffee]

CSF and now BBT are looking scum, I think BBT's push on Lucian is way too agressive, just looks out of place and kind of restless, agitating for someone to push.

I've seen scum do things like this, and done it myself. Because it makes people townread you until your push flips.

Talking about me ^^^

Things are becoming clearer now. CSF/GE/Malakittens, ft. BBT/Dunnstral on drums as SK (possibly)

I don't like the Enchant vote, they read more town than scum to me. I'd take a BBT vote if Hiraki is really against CSF going, but I'm feeling like CSF is scum.

I don't think CSF has got any townier either, still like my vote there. BBT needs to give more content. Enchant still leans town to me.

I'm not sure why BBT is declining to share his thoughts about the Enchant/CSF wagons - the most likely eliminations. It's partly why I'm scumreading him, but also his interactions with froggo look like scum grilling town to me.

I see BBT paired with CSF not Enchant - that would explain why BBT's vote for Enchant was unexplained.

As for BBT, they didn't sound that authentic in their reasoning and even after talking to you, they didn't finish with an update of their current thoughts, just opened it up to the floor, which doesn't convince me at all and looks like scummy indifference rather than towny zeal. First thing I noticed is that they're not even voting you.

Conftown is on Enchant so probably the bookies' favourite (yes I'm British), my preferred choice is CSF (or even BBT).

But, I prefer voting BBT to Enchant, and seeing as everyone else has moved, I will too. I wouldn't do this is CSF was close to plurality.

VOTE: BBT

This feels good.

All of Furtive's shading before finally feeling like he has the support to vote me.

Scum angling for a BBT wagon, 100%.

[furtiveglance]

Can you remind me why you suspect me

Because you have so few reads (me/Klick scum) so as to pair with all of my scumreads, and probe others to explain their reads without contributing much yourself.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'd say the key difference is the amount of analysis that I give (and that also depends on how invested I am in a game). If I'm scum I'll probably post more irrelevant stuff, and show little to no progression on reads. I'm also prone to tunneling as scum. This post is an example of a nothing post, I'm just talking generally about my playstyle.

Also, a little something special for you all.

Furtive self meta'd and said he tunnels as scum. He has only really pushed CSF or myself as scum, that's it. Those reads are stale as fuck.

[froggodoggo]

BBT why did you wait to bring up furtive angling/shading you until now?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

507 is particularly scummy from Furtive.

He states that I have 'declined' to comment on Enchant and CSF wagons. Firstly, I wasn't asked about them at that point so to use the word 'decline' is a misrep. I was simply focused elsewhere at the same and it's that simple.

He also says I haven't commented on the CSF wagon - it had 2 votes when I had caught up? Like, what?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

BBT why did you wait to bring up furtive angling/shading you until now?

Because I was focused on you

[furtiveglance]

CSF and now BBT are looking scum, I think BBT's push on Lucian is way too agressive, just looks out of place and kind of restless, agitating for someone to push.

I've seen scum do things like this, and done it myself. Because it makes people townread you until your push flips.

Talking about me ^^^

Things are becoming clearer now. CSF/GE/Malakittens, ft. BBT/Dunnstral on drums as SK (possibly)

I don't like the Enchant vote, they read more town than scum to me. I'd take a BBT vote if Hiraki is really against CSF going, but I'm feeling like CSF is scum.

I don't think CSF has got any townier either, still like my vote there. BBT needs to give more content. Enchant still leans town to me.

I'm not sure why BBT is declining to share his thoughts about the Enchant/CSF wagons - the most likely eliminations. It's partly why I'm scumreading him, but also his interactions with froggo look like scum grilling town to me.

I see BBT paired with CSF not Enchant - that would explain why BBT's vote for Enchant was unexplained.

As for BBT, they didn't sound that authentic in their reasoning and even after talking to you, they didn't finish with an update of their current thoughts, just opened it up to the floor, which doesn't convince me at all and looks like scummy indifference rather than towny zeal. First thing I noticed is that they're not even voting you.

Conftown is on Enchant so probably the bookies' favourite (yes I'm British), my preferred choice is CSF (or even BBT).

But, I prefer voting BBT to Enchant, and seeing as everyone else has moved, I will too. I wouldn't do this is CSF was close to plurality.

VOTE: BBT

This feels good.

All of Furtive's shading before finally feeling like he has the support to vote me.

Scum angling for a BBT wagon, 100%.

Before 507 you were just in my poe. From that point on I started scumreading you more, and it did feel good when others agreed. I voted you because everyone moved off CSF and I didn't want to eliminate Enchant, not for the very reason that other people voted you.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

VOTE: furtiveglance
the more I think about his responses to me the more his play feels like a dead fish

Maybe not. This is a good vote on Furtive.

I also said this early on in my catch up, so I have clearly disliked Furtive's play from the early game. I only looked into his progression on me as it became more and more obvious that a) a potential BBT wagon was coming and b) Furtive was looking mighty opportunistic.