In post 421, MegAzumarill wrote:I honestly have no clue how anything Ari has been doing in the last few pages could come from a town mindset. It's vague, weak, circular arguements for a read that hasn't been fleshed out since day 2.
wtf is this?
I don't expect this to be answered unless meg comes on soon but this should be pressed D2
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In post 445, MegAzumarill wrote:To set up a miselim on Ausuka. (Probably not today but in the future)
To try and gain a strong scum prescence in the thread to direct conversations into this issue
To shade in a way that obfuscates your involvement
how am I shading in a way that obfuscates my involvement?
do you think a single player here would doubt who is responsible for Ausuka being yeeted if we yeet Ausuka today or tommorrow?
Then stop pushing in a way that prompts others to take the action. Die on the hill articulating your case rather than this convuluted take of "oh you have one lim to hit scum or we kill you" It's a dissonant force you put between the two of you which is the type of thing scum would try to do even jf that wasn't an explicit intention.
I am not a fan of Meg's Ari push but this at least puts a pin on what Meg is thinking that makes it feel like she can be town for it, beforehand it felt like mask-off shading
Also, I'm curious what Meg's thoughts on Ari were in the last game I remember those two being in together (it might have been mini 2242? tris was the mod, I remember that clearly)
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In post 477, MegAzumarill wrote:I had a whole hypothetical prepared and everything but you just keep doing it blatantly and if people fail to see that there's not really anything I can do.
???
hypothetical about what, exactly?
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In post 483, Donempire wrote:No downsides to this, so it is a net positive play.
downsides include that non cop investigative PRs can catch you out, there could be a real miller in the game, and the fact that if you claim miller as scum you are voluntarily subjecting yourself to miller speculation
I can adress all of these:
I already mentioned the tracker dilemma. Normal games allow the mafia powerrole to both use their power and kill at the same time. Only time this would be a problem is if scum rolled two powerroles. But then again, why am i explaining this when i already explained it? You mentioning investigative pr as if its some gotcha when i've already discussed them in my post makes me think you didnt read it and just got defensive as soon as i accused you.
In case there is a real miller in the game, you go back to the setup being a closed setup. Two millers isnt an impossibility, its quite possible in a 7 player town game.
And you have subjected yourself to lots of miller speculation, and seemingly just shrugged it off, making me believe that "subjecting yourself to miller speculation" isnt as catastrophic a thing as you make it out to be.
2 millers in a micro would be very meme
and btw nowadays unless specified in the first post of the game (in the same spot where daytalk without encryptors would be announced) mafia require the Multitasking modifier to kill and act on the same night
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Rolecop catches me, if I'm a goon vanilla cop or simple or complex does too, there might be more I'm missing. More likely than not those roles do not exist but if they do they have a big incentive to target you. It's a needless risk.
Aha. That is what i'm talking about.
Cops will give a guilty result whether or not you are miller or scum, so if you were considering cops then you have to claim miller, because claiming it after the fact would make it seem like you made it up just then and reduce your credibility.
However, rolecops
always
say miller if you are miller, and vanilla if you are goon or vt. In this situation, a miller would never be concerned about a rolecop, because miller can trust the rolecop to get the correct role.
Basically, miller would be concerned about a cop investigation, while a mafia goon would be concerned about a rolecop investigation.
Do you understand why i thought that statement was suspicious now?
this feels like a town line of inquiry
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In post 477, MegAzumarill wrote:I had a whole hypothetical prepared and everything but you just keep doing it blatantly and if people fail to see that there's not really anything I can do.
???
hypothetical about what, exactly?
To clarify what I meant by obfuscating involvement and how scum would naturally tend toward it.
Ok first I dont really understand what you mean with the 6 days thing. The game hasn't even lasted 6 days.
For that matter I don't understand why you seem so caught up in the fact I scumread you. You seem frustrated because you don't think my reasonings are valid but I disagree. Disagreemwnts are common in mafia. You should know this. It feels like a weird thing to blow up over.
Like we are playing a game. You are going to be scumread sometimes. Why are you upset? I don't make heads or tails why you seem upset.
>:/
regardless of whether Ari agreed with your thought process, I think she effectively refuted it
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i think ari has been transparently blatantly town since fairly early and has only gotten more so since blowing up in your face. if you're unnable to see that it's either due to a total lack of perspective or purposeful obtuseness
this ^
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I overreacted yesterday probably. still don't like Ari's push on me and don't want to rule her out as scum but I'm not sure she has that much reason to take this angle as scum rn when it feels like she would be going to extremes of anger and effort for not a massive amount of benefit? and even though I disagree I guess her blowing up at meg feels sort of towny
i don't really have any wagons I'd be interested in other than this, I think galron slot has been pretty consistently wolfy. I thought I've explained the why of it already but I'd be happy to elaborate
idk if it means anything at all but fwiw im 99.9% certain this is town!ari now
do you think ari is town from this or do you think ausuka is town
WHY IS IT EITHER/OR?
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I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
In post 597, Coral wrote:My guess would be that it's one of Galron or Xayah but not both, alongside... Don or Datisi? I haven't thought about that too much but it feels reasonable
I kinda vibe w this
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Done:- I think a lot of Done's stuff this game is stuff that can easily faked, so I had to pause when thinking of where I thought they were, but the thing that really makes them a strong town for me is how they've approached slots and this game. If Done is a wolf they've put so much pressure in town's favor for no reason with just how they've acted alone. It's just more likely they're a wolf.
Ari: I thought Ari was a townie during our interaction but the blowup kinda just put them into lock town because it's very hard to fake that level of emotion as a wolf because you would know you're in the wrong and it just screams upset townie. It's clear Ari is trying to solve slots and sort players and when people didn't agree with her logic she poked and got a little upset about it. Would be very shocked if wolf.
Meg: I think Meg is a slot I could be wrong on placing this far up, but compared to the other slots I've just had a good feeling about them ever since they started posting more the angles they've taken seem to come from a place like a townie trying to figure things out not someone with all the answers, there's a level of stubbornness that wolves don't have that Meg reached.
I like all 3 here
Here is the TRs at least. Don't get the done read, though.
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