In post 2869, Datisi wrote:like, i *can* explain why this is literally how i never play around buddy!baltar on day 1, but as recent experience has taught me, people don't give a shit about that kind of defense, so
In post 2870, humaneatingmonkey wrote:you decided early that baltar was gonna be null regardless and that makes me think partner
scumtisi would find this post very insulting
Spoiler: self meta bullshit that you (plural) probably won't care much for
baltar and i have been friends outside of game for years atp. also we both have a lot of respect for each other's scumgame. if i had randed scum w him in this game, i would've been ecstatic. i said smt about how i'd be top poster and i wasn't kidding. this is kind of comparable to mini 2246 where, after literal years of wishing for it, i randed scum w iconeum and i just went ballistic that game.
another fact that plays into this is that my last few scum rands, i've chronically had partners that were useless and where i was forced to shitbus and solocarry. wiz in champs qualifiers, penguinpower and looker in open 857, galron in micro 1059. having a buddy that actually gives a shit about the game and is actually fun to play with would be a breath of fresh air. i love scumming but i am so fucking tired of having shit teammates.
also. i coach my buddies when i have to. the fact that baltar was chronically avoiding giving a read on me is something that never happens if we're buddies. because i know how it looks to the outside. i know the game earlier i noticed that being a scumtell. i know there's people here that played in that game, and that can read that game. i know i will have to call him out for it if he doesn't do something. i don't let that happen.
this whole thing is pointless though because it can be handwaved w "well maybe baltar wasn't feeling like playing scum or working with you" despite saying in an earlier game he'd also tryhard, and it's not something i can prove. which is annoying.
i see ausuka has dropped a wallpost of what i'm sure is absolutely stellar reasons why i'm scum. (before anyone asks, no, this is not me susing ausuka.) i know this post is like 20 minutes late but i got interrupted while writing it. anyway, i'm gonna go eat something and then i'm gonna do things in this game and it's gonna be very townie. ok cool.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
In post 2873, Ausuka wrote:I think this genuinely reads as fed up of the interaction and is probably +town for Gamma because I think a scum distancing thing is more likely to be interesting for Baltar
ok i actually read the parts that were related to me. the good news is that it reinforced my townread of ausuka.
i don't have much to respond to the things they pointed out about baltar/ari > datisi because i had nothing to do with that. the para about me is. i mean my defense would once again boil down to "i don't play scum like that" (because soft sussing a partner and then spinning onto a townread without either been given a reason to do so by the partner, or the gamestate itself forcing me into doing that is very stupid and i don't do that, but y'know self meta bad etc). and i don't think that'd be overly helpful.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
Like obviously my reads aren't gonna be perfect but the idea I need to pivot from yesterday for some reason feels super weird to me.
I will vote who I think is scum. That can be the same people as yesterday or totally different. If you think I'm wrong, telling me to change my reads or that they're bad or whatever isn't going to convince me.
In post 2883, Datisi wrote:because soft sussing a partner and then spinning onto a townread without either been given a reason to do so by the partner, or the gamestate itself forcing me into doing that is very stupid and i don't do that
I agree that scumtisi does not do stupid things generally. I think that without hindsight, knowing scum you did not know Baltar was going to die, pivoting away from your Baltar read after generating distance with him would not be considered stupid at all. Baltar probably doesn't live to endgame, but I think pivoting away from him could help by letting him push through miseliminations early, and allowing him to die in a way you control later on.
I also think the whole scumtisi wouldn't do this is something I have seen you do as scum multiple times.
i can see that what he's saying is plausible but also i'll feel like a total sucker if i caught him twice in this game and for the second time i'm gonna let him go
can you comment on what you think about vpb x datisi
and also what you think about he says about their history together
what i struggle thinking about is they say they're friends and they're excited to play with each other as scum but i think that should reflect regardless of alignment? i didn't really get that impression in this game. plus if dats is as busy as he is, i dont think they would have played a good scumgame anyway? otherwise, should i accept that datisi as town would be less excited to play?
the difference is, i lie when i do it as scum ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
like i said, i don't expect you to be convinced by the arguments i make in response to your case. but i will be sitting down at this game later today and doing some solving and it's gonna be very townie. (yes i was planning to do it right now but change of plans. i'll do it today.)
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
if you mean right now, i'm getting ready to go to the beach. if you mean in general on day one, idk i wasn't feeling the game at times.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
i mean this playerlist is basically filled with datisi stans and friends and yet he feels distant. so i can see that he's just busy, but that puts a wrench in the gears re: the narrative that he would have been BALLISTIC even if they were scum together.
the difference is, i lie when i do it as scum ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
like i said, i don't expect you to be convinced by the arguments i make in response to your case. but i will be sitting down at this game later today and doing some solving and it's gonna be very townie. (yes i was planning to do it right now but change of plans. i'll do it today.)
In post 2891, humaneatingmonkey wrote:i mean this playerlist is basically filled with datisi stans and friends and yet he feels distant. so i can see that he's just busy, but that puts a wrench in the gears re: the narrative that he would have been BALLISTIC even if they were scum together.
i was busy up until i quit my job on the 1st. so.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
Hasn't datisi been the third top poster despite being extremely busy for a portion of the game? I really do not feel like he has been detached at all. I feel he engaged in a lot of antics with VPB and this does feel congruent with what I'd expect if they were scum together.