In post 3835, GuiltyLion wrote:what I'm looking for mainly is some type of commitment to a wagon that you think has a chance of happening
whether that's obscure, TSQ, or somebody else specifically is less material to whether I understand who you think is the best flip for the game and why, and whether you're taking action to make that happen
I know you indicated a townread on Shea, so for me it's like - would you vote obscure? Why or why not? If not, why are you seemingly ok with him being at risk of lim and not pushing any alternatives that you think are better?
in a realistic sense voting obscure and then obscure flipping red would go a decent way towards weakening my scumread. I just won't have any reason to townread you until I can start to believe that you are trying to eliminate mafia
Certainly in some cases, I could demonstrate commitment by remaining flexible, no? I think I'm fine with starting on obscure, but if something else came up that looked more promising, I would think that I could show a desire to eliminate scum more by switching than by stubbornly staying.
There are of course complicating factors. We still have almost a week, by solidifying wagons on objectively LHF slots we do a lot to stifle pushes against players who might otherwise be harder to catch. That's generally why I'm reticent with my vote until late-ish in the day. I am getting the feeling that some people think we are in the "determining major wagons" phase and some people think we are in the "consolidating on major wagons" phase, and the latter are annoyed that the former are not consolidating.
I would vote obscure, but I think that could end up being pretty detrimental if he's town, and while I don't have any particular reason to believe that he is, the numbers say it's likely. (Plus, in my experience, if town doesn't have a clear direction after an early scumflip, they're likely to get a lot of misses. Might not hold as much if it was a vig shot, but I know the leading wagon is on town, at least.)
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!