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i don't like the posts they've made and i don't like the time it's taken to make them even with an excuse
what do you mean?In post 327, Looker wrote:How is this different from Greeting?-
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where is this coming from?In post 314, Spartan117 wrote:
Currently at a point where I think itsIn post 250, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:Hi. My slot was almost hammered. Huzzah
Also nails suck to type withone of Tapio or Elmo and one of BlueSnake or Looker.
VOTE: Tapio-
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In post 329, Tapiocaphobe wrote:i don't like the posts they've made and i don't like the time it's taken to make them even with an excuse
what do you mean?In post 327, Looker wrote:How is this different from Greeting?Spoiler:-
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like i said in 297, i think the behavior of his slot was suspect in d1. i find 307 and 312 particularly disingenuous considering I had just given my reasons for suspecting the slotIn post 331, Looker wrote:In post 329, Tapiocaphobe wrote:i don't like the posts they've made and i don't like the time it's taken to make them even with an excuse
what do you mean?In post 327, Looker wrote:How is this different from Greeting?Spoiler:
in fact, where is 312 coming from after 303? if they themselves think their slot should be suspected then why do they go on to make a post discrediting the push on them?-
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BlueSnakelet He/ItGoonHe/It
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I am no longer convinced by my argument from Day 1. The fact that you weren't pushing for Greeting's elimination can be more easily explained by you being town, and having no reason to eliminate Greeting, then by being scum and having a 4D chess plan to gain a minuscule amount of towncred. After thinking about it a few times, it became obvious that the potential reward that Scum!Spartan would gain with it does not outweigh the risk of failing to eliminate Greeting.In post 269, Spartan117 wrote:
Why did your opinion on me change? I actually thought my game content was very lacking at the end/later stages of day 1.In post 262, BlueSnakelet wrote:I'm pretty sure Spartan is town. I know I argued otherwise before, but I changed my mind. I was only being way too confident in a tinfoil theory I created.
Not Known being the night kill is actually evidence against Spartan being scum. If my Day 1 argument was correct, Spartan wouldn't flip the ones who were greatly pushing Greeting. It would be better for Mafia if we didn't know that a big part of the push was town.In post 297, Tapiocaphobe wrote:spartan was really scummy in d1. he had very little to say after RVS, talked repeatedly throughout the day about how unsure he was of greeting's slot (172, 175, 199, 226/227) without seemingly any interest in actually sorting the slot, but is very happy to vote him once town starts running out of time. he does, however, have a lot to say (and an OMGUS vote!) on blue for bringing up something I actually thought had some water to it: the idea that scum!spartan is happy to let greeting eliminate himself. spartan says himself in 175 that he has little influence on how the push goes (i think its also scummy he then goes on to imply there's scum voting him by "wondering" aloud without trying to sort). I'm honestly surprised blue backed off on this read today; NK15's flip should make that readstronger,considering we now know a big part of the push was town.Let he who is with sin, and loves it, cast the final stone.-
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I scumread their predecessor, and that's about it.In post 325, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Can everyone else give their opinions on Elmo as well please.Let he who is with sin, and loves it, cast the final stone.-
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What do you think I'm trying to set up? This isn't a rhetorical question. Please give me your best answer.In post 320, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:
I like the thought behind this but I hate this post. Feels like you are trying to set something up.In post 262, BlueSnakelet wrote:How likely it is for a Day 1 miselimination wagon to be composed entirely out of town?
Odds are a lot higher then you think there could be one easily the both don't need to be on there for a wagon lol back
I think there is mafia amongst them. I don't think both of them are, but surely at least one.
Out of the four remaining wagoners (Tapioca, P6, Spartan and Looker), I'm more suspicious of P6, who acted scummy from the beginning. But I want to give their replacement a chance for redemption.
I'm townleaning Tapioca and Looker. Tapioca created the wagon (while mafia would most likely jump into existing wagons), and Looker hammered Greeting only when they had no choice (other than letting a No Elimination go through).
I'm pretty sure Spartan is town. I know I argued otherwise before, but I changed my mind. I was only being way too confident in a tinfoil theory I created.
And finally, there's BlueBloodedToffee, who pushed for Greeting's elimination while staying off any wagon. That's a scumtell if I ever saw one. VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee
And one of two ways for Mafia to make people dead is to push them during the day, is it not?
This also doesn't make sense. Mafia just want people dead. Ideally stronger ones for to simplicity and people will be more likely to sheep and let the armchair qb take the roleIn post 225, BlueSnakelet wrote:
By scum hunting, you mean pushing for people? Wouldn't mafia also want to push for someone's elimination? I see those probing as a greater towntell than a straight up push.In post 211, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:If I squint really hard Bella, 60 might come across as scum hunting. The rest is dross.
I'm waiting to hammer. If anyone wants to put Greeting to E-1, I would greatly appreciate it.Let he who is with sin, and loves it, cast the final stone.-
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Elmo TeH AzN Jack of All Trades
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Because people use votes for pressure flailing. This is my first game here in years and things I remember. Remember towns only power is the vote. Hence why using itIn post 332, Tapiocaphobe wrote:in fact, where is 312 coming from after 303? if they themselves think their slot should be suspected then why do they go on to make a post discrediting the push on them?Stats not in the wiki. I'm That Crazy Panda.
I Speak Engrish Not English Leave My Grammar Alone.
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Yeah and I've been trying to say a little more just going off on this days activity and not reading day one as it feels like a blah. I've also read a few isos and gained some knowledge and yeah.In post 326, Bellaphant wrote:Eh, I think Elmo might just be absent, unlike tapio who I think is actually scummy.
I feel like they are push my death due to the lack of content and hunting I've done. Where I look at it as one of those things like this case or lack of on me is activity based. It's like let's get more credit for getting someone who's not really here for the game.In post 328, Looker wrote:@Elmo - When you say you feel yuck about Tapioca's blame game, are you saying that they're wrong or are you saying that they're being disingenuously wrong?Stats not in the wiki. I'm That Crazy Panda.
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VC 2.3
Elmo TeH AzN (2) BlueBloodedToffee, Tapiocaphobe
BlueBloodedToffee (1) Bellaphant
Tapiocaphobe (1) Spartan117
Not Voting (3) BlueSnakelet, Elmo TeH AzN, Looker
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.
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4, It's always just over half the number of players. I've edited it into the VC.-
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BlueBloodedToffee Survivor
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Missed this post regarding Greeting in my earlier conversation with Bella, too. Her read progression on Greeting was mad scummy.In post 56, Bellaphant wrote:I find greeting hard to read, traditionally.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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I'm sorry, what?
Scum!Bella doesn't ask for a VC, signal her surprise at the lack of votes and basically naked vote. Do you think my play is that messy?
I'm voting tapio for opportunitistic voting. Earlier in the day they seemed to be your scum read?
I want elmo to read a bit and give some reads, I'm not dragging them to elo, but this is where I want some pressure rn
P-edit I've literally discussed that wit you already?-
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Elmo's interaction with the game is almost entirely based on responding directly to things asked of him, as opposed to independent scum hunting.
Bella's read progression on Greeting and subsequent voting on D2 has been horrendous, too.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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You technically made Tapio the joint leading wagon with Elmo and I don't understand why you're not prodding Elmo more and almost avoiding taking too take much of a stance on them.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.
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