Cosmos Mafia (Postgame)

[Cat Scratch Fever]

2. Radical Rat pushed mastina because they genuinely thought she was scum - they had a post where they said they try to push opposing Scum in multiball (2156).

I have the general impression that Radical Rat isn't as comfortable lying and mostly tried to push the truth as much as possible.

You are basing the bolded on what exactly? Can you link/quote any RR scumgames that show they aren’t likely to lie as scum? Because that isn’t my experience.

Their relentless push on MMR - they immediately leapt on MMR after their Loyal Nea claim. They didn't hold back out of fear making themselves a big target from the Lunar team, even though they correctly called out exactly why MMR was scum.
4348 - they mentioned that Lunar can only act during Nights and Solar can only act during Noons - that's truthtelling because based on the flips, it matches exactly when Scum can act
7342 was also TMI - how did they know for certain Solar attempted to kill Meuh, when no protective had claimed at that point?

maybe some others as well, those are just the ones from the top of my mind

[Firebringer]

anyone know of any good jokes

[Enchant]

anyone know of any good jokes

This one

[Firebringer]

That is a good joke

[Enchant]

2. Radical Rat pushed mastina because they genuinely thought she was scum - they had a post where they said they try to push opposing Scum in multiball (2156).

I have the general impression that Radical Rat isn't as comfortable lying and mostly tried to push the truth as much as possible.

You are basing the bolded on what exactly? Can you link/quote any RR scumgames that show they aren’t likely to lie as scum? Because that isn’t my experience.

Their relentless push on MMR - they immediately leapt on MMR after their Loyal Nea claim. They didn't hold back out of fear making themselves a big target from the Lunar team, even though they correctly called out exactly why MMR was scum.
4348 - they mentioned that Lunar can only act during Nights and Solar can only act during Noons - that's truthtelling because based on the flips, it matches exactly when Scum can act
7342 was also TMI - how did they know for certain Solar attempted to kill Meuh, when no protective had claimed at that point?

maybe some others as well, those are just the ones from the top of my mind

Let's just say that i believe Solars attacked Meuh, so CSF

is

protective and i don't understand why we should vote here.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Still haven't read, every time I try my brain just loses focus and I end up doing something else.

I do want to address this post though, because I think it's a big one. I said earlier the impression I got from the brief bit of mastina vs. MathBlade I saw was that they both believed what they were saying and were pushing in earnest, making them either both Town, or opposing scum factions.

And now mastina's saying she thinks MathBlade's role is her role

.... And that sounds to me like opposing scum factions. Makes sense that with two scum groups, they'd each have similar abilities to balance each other. Whereas giving two Townies the same role is much less likely. And I can't imagine scum just HAPPENS to pick a fakeclaim in a Theme with nonstandard roles that matches a real role Town has.

I'm not voting again until I've read properly, but I would prefer Mastina first because even if she's wrong about MathBlade's role, I think this logic is coming from a scum perspective.

Still think I’m wrong here @CSF? This reads like RR did think Mastina was Mathblade equivalent.[/quote]
Oh hmm, that's valid for why Solar jumped on mastina

But then why would Lunar necessarily jump on the wagon? They didn't know MathBlade was blessed? And Ydrasse is more likely Lunar than Solar imo

[Firebringer]

why is everyone vote adverse in this game

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Still haven't read, every time I try my brain just loses focus and I end up doing something else.

I do want to address this post though, because I think it's a big one. I said earlier the impression I got from the brief bit of mastina vs. MathBlade I saw was that they both believed what they were saying and were pushing in earnest, making them either both Town, or opposing scum factions.

And now mastina's saying she thinks MathBlade's role is her role

.... And that sounds to me like opposing scum factions. Makes sense that with two scum groups, they'd each have similar abilities to balance each other. Whereas giving two Townies the same role is much less likely. And I can't imagine scum just HAPPENS to pick a fakeclaim in a Theme with nonstandard roles that matches a real role Town has.

I'm not voting again until I've read properly, but I would prefer Mastina first because even if she's wrong about MathBlade's role, I think this logic is coming from a scum perspective.

Still think I’m wrong here @CSF? This reads like RR did think Mastina was Mathblade equivalent.

Oh hmm, that's valid for why Solar jumped on mastina

But then why would Lunar necessarily jump on the wagon? They didn't know MathBlade was blessed? And Ydrasse is more likely Lunar than Solar imo

Fixed quote

[Cat Scratch Fever]

VOTE: Ydrasse

[Firebringer]

Now we got some action going

[Past Present Future]

VOTE: professotic

Sorry.

What I’m thinking is if Prof is scum, could possibly explain the no kills nights 1 and 2 but nothing explains why there’s no evidence of anything happening on Night 3 or is my math wrong here? There’s so many phases to keep track of, I get them all mixed up.

I don't understand

We know Solar has kills because of Mathblade. We have no info on what Lunar has, so my theory is Prof!scum could possibly explain no negative actions for the first two nights but not for night 3. I keep hearing conversion being floated about but so far no evidence for it, so what negative utility has Lunar got if it’s not nks right?

But if Prof’s scum, wtf happened last night? Could Lunar have nks but not used them yet? I have no clue.

No evidence of nks, conversion or anything so far from Lunar. Reveals indicate Lunar’s not nightless, so wtf are they doing?

[Firebringer]

maybe lunar has delayed poisoning that doesn't activate until everyone drinks the cool aid on the seventh night.

wait the cult name is heavens gate im thinking of not seventh gate.
Okay maybe not seventh night? although biblically seventh night is special

[Enchant]

Even pressuming prof is lunar, he is NOT only lunar so i doubt he just say "so anyway good luck without nks!" and go in invisibility like that.

[Past Present Future]

And, when did mastina claim?
I missed pretty much everything that happened in D1 since my V/LA began.
-Rubella

Is this believable dumbtelling?

[Enchant]

ah fuck this i take third option

I sheep Meuh. Lole.

[Past Present Future]

Well, I wasn't GOING to vote until I saw the rest of the thread, but.

VOTE: mastina

I don't know that I've played with you as scum before (unless you count Double Agency, but... Weird game, that.), but in my experience from other people this kind of attempt to bully the rest of the thread into submission by kicking and screaming you're Town and everyone else is idiots is usually scum.

And to be frank, regardless of alignment, I find the behavior unconscionable.

If you're Town, and you genuinely believe you have a massive solve D1 that just happens to be everyone suspicious of you... You should be elated to have all of the scum out themselves so they can be eliminated in your wake, not angry and belligerent.

RR and Mastina were masons in DA, so why is RR saying they played scum together?

[Past Present Future]

And, when did mastina claim?
I missed pretty much everything that happened in D1 since my V/LA began.
-Rubella

Is this believable dumbtelling?

It’s actually painful trying to slog through that dumpster fire of an ISO. How it was not beyond obvious to me they were flaming obvscum on d1, I have no idea.

[Past Present Future]

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One thing I know about RR are that they’re extremely mech savy and if Mastina were still in this game, she’d 100% back me up on that.

[Meuh]

VC 6.0.6


Ydrasse (2) Meuh, Firebringer [E-4]

Cat Scratch Fever (1) Professotic


Not Voting (7) Everybody Else


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Uhhhh under 24 hours can we get something through please? I need to properly catch up but like nolim = bad so please let’s do something
I think Ydrasse has like 3 votes already

[Enchant]

I will vote Ydrasse if need.

[Enchant]

Meuh what you think about prof

[Magician]

It’s actually painful trying to slog through that dumpster fire of an ISO. How it was not beyond obvious to me they were flaming obvscum on d1, I have no idea.

The illusion of transparency.

[T-Bone]

UNVOTE:

T-Bone, penny for your thoughts

What do you want?

OOC: tested positive still not feeling great so haven't back read. I'm basically just reacting in real time from my last two posts.

Do you still think Enchant is scum, and generally who do you think is scum

I've never thought Enchant was scum. At best I think I need to revaluate reads because I had RR ask town...but I don't remember voicing that thought. Saying I would sheep DDS while I was really sick didn't have any bearing on my read. I'll think about it some more. I think I am Ydrasse, you or meuh, Prof or PPF, then the rest.

VOTE: Ydrasse

I keep trying to eliminate Ydrasse as a scum read but find I can't because of who I read as town and why. I think Ydrasse will flip scum, not totally confident, but reasonably enough.

[professotic]

I will vote Ydrasse if need.

Meuh what you think about prof

I think Ydrass is Town and I know I am town.

[professotic]

There was a REASON i switched from Ydrass to Porkens and started the Porkens wagon cause Ydrass was Townie.