Legends of the Buisness Company [Staplers Take Over the World]

[SirCakez]

I really don't think scum were bussing here
Norwe swapping me in to save Shirou is evidence enough of that

[Dunnstral]

reading std is the weirdest ever

obvtown (game start) to obvwolf (flailing when ppl first sus him) to obvtown (midgame) to obvwolf (treatment of shirou v. psyche round 1) to obvtown (start of d3)

literally impossible to iso because every 1-liner can only be read in contex

Atp I think I’m just going to treat Shirou/Norwee/Dunnstral as Town because if they’re scum we just lose

also this could be such a bad perspective that it's just minus townpoints
which is really strange because I remember talking to gamma 20 pages later and thinking her worldview was remarkably similar to mine, something to flag

sheep - sheep

shea - shea

std - villager, is definitely thinking rly hard, it's not just random bs

enchant - im just gonna sheep my towncore's read on enchant, but if I end up in F3 with him and no one at any point explained intricately what to think abt this meta-wise, then im gonna kill someone

Psyche

gamma - worrying but tonally is villager

Tbone - has the best vibes like it felt like town had a brief 2 hour good period and he was a seamlessly natural part of it idk


—a line—

leaves Dunn/shirou/cake

Wasnt even intentional to end up with literally 3 ppl, was meant to be a normal realist

These are 12 hours apart. Gamma loses town points for their bad perspective on the scumteam...and then Sheep produces the same scumteam in their next post. What?

Is this not sheep saying gamma's perspective is bad because gamma is calling us town, and then sheep calls us mafia?

[Enchant]

I guess i will not hold on STD

[Gamma Emerald]

Lazer Tag

Living Players (5): Gamma Emerald, Psyche, T-Bone, PookytheMagicalBear, Thestatusquo

Round 3 Ends In (expired on 2023-02-01 14:45:00)

I want to say all the slots in these 5 are town because otherwise scum see me and Pooky still in the minigame and take one of us out. It makes infinitely more sense they simply couldn’t do anything to stop us at this point.

[Dunnstral]

Okay I think the scum flips solidified things for me. I read Shea as town, I find myself agreeing with Shea more than not and it would be a hell of a move for him to follow me on Shirou as early as he did when no one else wanted to (this was like early Day 2 iirc). I moved Cakez up to town lean because of what Norwee and Shirou tried when they swapped us in. I think that at the point in the game where Shirou had targeted psyche, it was at a time where the scum team was on their way to another mislim which meant they'd have one remaining. I think it's telling when Norwee swapped Shirou for me/Cakez. I'll go back and pull quotes, but it looks like as people started to discuss the possibility of Cakez being scum, Norwee pulled the trigger to try and get a repeat of what we did to Furtive. I'm writing a note for myself to compare the two situations to see if there are any parallels in how others reacted. Then that would have freed us up to do Shirou vs psyche again and mislim psyche for the scum win. So I think that's evidence for psyche and Cakez town. I'm mildly considering that a psyche scumflip would have been beneficial to Shirou, but I'm unsure the scum team would have wanted that when they were half way to a win. I think Enchant is town, but I do admit Enchant could easily fit on a scum team with Norwee/Shirou just because of how unoffensive he is. I think Gamma is town but I think Gamma could fit on the scum team and Pooky's kill means if Gamma is scum she no longer has to hold him off in a shared PT. I think Alisae was pocketed by Shirou and that explains a lot of Alisae's behavior. Unless Dunn is somehow fabricating what happened in the PT, it's hard to see why aligned players would make so much use of a neighborhood PT. That leaves me with the only logical options. It's partly because of game circumstance, and partly because I think the players who could logically fit into a Norwee/Shirou scum team are town that I arrive at Sheep and StD. At one point I held the belief that Sheep's slot and Shirou weren't aligned. But I thought sheep's play around both eliminations and now the current challenge doesn't make sense. I don't remember seeing Sheep around the Norwee situation at all. Now sheep could have just been away because Sheep is away a lot. Sheep did show up for Shirou, but honestly I think at that point Shriou was all but confirmed scum so any vote coming after mine could be a bus. What struck me as odd was this little exchange with Gamma. Where Gamma proposes a scumteam of Shirou/Dunn/Cakez and Sheep goes 'this is bad from Gamma minus town points'...and then in his next post literally says the scumteam is those same three players. It looks to me like Sheep forgot what he said he thinks in thread. (I'll quote these side by side in the next post) The last player is StD. I gave StD a lot of credit for spending coins to get Titus limmed and maybe I shouldn't have. I think I'm going to recognize it as a situation where StD put out the bait and I took it, only so StD can make it look like I made him do it later. (I imagine once I post this StD will contest this characterization). But what ended up happening is rather than flipping Shriou on Day 2, we flipped Titus...and then we almost flipped psyche on Day 3, getting psyche to e-1 or e-2 before Norwee jumped in and claimed scum. I just think if we had limmed psyche and scum were in LiLo that is especially great for StD. I also remember that StD or Norwee said they weren't using their PT. They wouldn't really have to if they were aligned in the mafia PT. I will go back and look to make sure I'm not misattributing that quote. If either Sheep or StD flip town my world view will be shattered but I think based on everything I think I know about this game it has to be them.

Spoiler: Reads 4.0

Town Lean
Shea
Cakez

Null Lean
Gimli
Enchant
Gamma
Dunn

Scum Lean
Sheep
StD

Spoiler: Reads 3.0

Town Lean
Enchant
Shea
Pooky

Null Lean
Gamma
Cakez
Norwee
StD

Scum Lean
Dunnstral
Psyche
Sheep
Shirou

This is all convincing to me. Except for Enchant being town just because.

[Thestatusquo]

I think there's a good chance that the interaction between shirou and enchant with the "scum claim" was theatre designed to give enchant town cred. Note enchant explicitly had the chance to hammer, the thing he's known for before, and didn't do so despite there being an additional incentive to do so in this game in the form of money.

[Gamma Emerald]

Lazer Tag

Round 1 Results:

NorwegianboyEE has been Shot!
Dunnstral has been Shot!
Enchant has been Shot!

Living Players (9): Shirou, Gamma Emerald, Save the Dragons, Psyche, T-Bone, PookytheMagicalBear, Sheepssaysmeep, Thestatusquo, SirCakez

Round 2 Ends In (expired on 2023-01-31 14:45:00)

Maybe the team is (Norwee, Shirou, Enchant, Dunnstral) and they all got basically wiped off the map in the minigame round 1.

[Thestatusquo]

So yeah I feel pretty good about an enchant std solve and will reevaluate if either of them flips town.

[Gamma Emerald]

swap Team Johnson’s for Team Holmes under the Hammer

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: enchant

[Dunnstral]

So I was too lazy as scum to submit a shot in lazer tag, but I fabricated post 4879?

[Thestatusquo]

VOTE: Enchant

[Thestatusquo]

I think gammas claim was that alisae and shirou faked interaction in the pt, not that you fabricated the recording thereof.

[Enchant]

I make Gamma Hated

[Gamma Emerald]

So I was too lazy as scum to submit a shot in lazer tag, but I fabricated post 4879?

Several people missed shots, myself included in the third round. And I don’t believe you fabricated anything, I just don’t see how those posts make you town. Shirou also posted hood contents, and he flipped scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

I make Gamma Hated

Amazing, I think that doesn’t even do anything rn. So I’d say “nice job wasting your money” but I think you just get refunded.

[Dunnstral]

I make Gamma Hated

Why?

[Enchant]

BECAUSE

I

CAN

[Thestatusquo]

More important question if this is real: Why would you already just have that item lying around? Feels like the kind of item town would have very little reason to just purchase and the kind of item scum would have purchased if they, say, thought they were about to get a miselim on psyche and were about to be one miselim from winning?

[Enchant]

Wait i need to purchase them beforehand

[Thestatusquo]

I believe so, yes.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah what
I can do it if I have to but from the spontaneity of previous swaps I thought you just posted it and it happened.

[Thestatusquo]

oh I was pretty sure you had to buy the item and then use it, could be wrong I guess.

[Enchant]

Welp

I gonna buy quick, bet you won't quickhammer me faster than i do?

[Enchant]

I just asked, it works for one challenge.

Really why then just don't buy doublevoter for 400 instead of hated for 700.

Literally bruh.