I said before I played a lot of scum games with Flavor Leaf.In post 886, Frogsterking wrote:1) I was right wasn't I?In post 885, Cephrir wrote: I... Need a minute to process this lol
2) Is alchemist a Flavor Leaf alt? They either are or they learned from him. He is exploiting your Town read on CSF and your scum read on Enchant, and until I flipped my read on you he was exploiting my scum read on you.
Yes it shows. A lot.In post 925, Alchemist21 wrote:I said before I played a lot of scum games with Flavor Leaf.In post 886, Frogsterking wrote:1) I was right wasn't I?In post 885, Cephrir wrote: I... Need a minute to process this lol
2) Is alchemist a Flavor Leaf alt? They either are or they learned from him. He is exploiting your Town read on CSF and your scum read on Enchant, and until I flipped my read on you he was exploiting my scum read on you.
How do you think I’m exploiting Cephrir’s reads?
I’m putting value in a TownCephrir’s reads because if he flips Town I’m not going to just assume his reads are shit and ignore them.In post 926, Frogsterking wrote:Yes it shows. A lot.In post 925, Alchemist21 wrote:I said before I played a lot of scum games with Flavor Leaf.In post 886, Frogsterking wrote:1) I was right wasn't I?In post 885, Cephrir wrote: I... Need a minute to process this lol
2) Is alchemist a Flavor Leaf alt? They either are or they learned from him. He is exploiting your Town read on CSF and your scum read on Enchant, and until I flipped my read on you he was exploiting my scum read on you.
How do you think I’m exploiting Cephrir’s reads?
You pumped up his scum read on Enchant which (IMO) you knew was wrong and you pumped up his Town read on CSF which (IMO) you also knew was wrong.
Your ISO looks like you knew Cephrir and I were TvT and you were playing that up as much as possible.
I think you're bad news and need to go but I'm trying to think of a way that you could change my mind. Your actions are going to speak a lot louder to me than your words. I want you and CSF flipped and I want to be more certain on my read on NM. If you help get an opposing wagon growing on CSF and help with sorting NM then I'll reconsider on you.
You're pretty blatantly lying here and there are receipts for that. Even Cephrir believed I had reasons for my scum read on him. There's an enormous paper trail for my thought process...In post 928, Alchemist21 wrote: It feels like you only scumread CSF because they didn’t agree with you on Cephrir and you’re only scumreading me because I didn’t agree with you on CSF.
...Which you've been indirectly expressing an interest toward...In post 644, Frogsterking wrote:It will take me a long time to actually write up all the reasons. The first few things in chronological order were that you didn't express any paranoia about my alignment, you were extremely pockety with how you treated my page 1 post wrt to Eiralox, and I value T3's early scum ping on you pretty highly. Also, you didn't question Brickwalll while you were voting them for pressure which I notice are things you often combine as Town, and you moved your vote before Brickwalll could do anything AI. In fact this lack of questioning who you are voting and innopportune vote movements are a common theme in fact in your ISO. Non-chronologically, off the top of my head I value Enchant's point in 285 pretty highly, I noticed your SvS interaction with lycanfire, you TMI'd Penguin as Town, I believe you are a capable scum hunter who can recognize that Dionysus is likely to be Town and I believe this whole Dionysus push is likely to be a counterwagon. Tonight your language in 586 was extremely suspicious: you seem self-conscious in general when posting with Cephrir (which you do reluctantly after I call you both out together) and in 586 you felt the need to qualify that you *are* in fact trying to sort Cephrir lol.In post 631, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Why?
That is basically just the cliff notes of my scum case on you. Really it is going to be quite difficult to convince me that you're Town because I have a lot on you. I think if I had to choose a few things overall that would help to change my mind it would be if you could convince me that you didn't magically divine my alignment at the beginning of the game, you and lycanfire weren't SvS, and there was some purpose behind your vote movements throughout the game.
In post 846, Frogsterking wrote:Where was the reaction to CSF vote?In post 842, Alchemist21 wrote:What associative tells do you think were made when Lycanfire was still in the slot?In post 829, Frogsterking wrote: Associative tells between CSF and Cephrir slot*
Because of lycanfire.
...so don't talk shit now that I scum read you like you don't "feel" I have read progression on CSF.In post 869, Alchemist21 wrote:I think 94 is the weirdest post in the whole thing.In post 867, Frogsterking wrote: @alchemist
863 did you take into account the time stamps, the context of the game and what they were motivated by?
I'm sorry I walked into this a weird way by answering what I didn't like from only one side (lycanfire.) For example, it isn't just that lycanfire didn't ask CSF why she voted him, CSF didn't ask lycanfire about his reads either, despite them both being online at the same time...
I also think CSF was also putting a lot of energy into her conversation with you which had just started and the initial vote on lycan was likely a knee-jerk reaction to a bad post. I still don’t think this is damning evidence of a s/s interaction.
Everyone but Frogster agrees you’re scummy because you’re not putting in any effort into this game. Do you have anything to say about that?
You want to say i am not efforting?In post 935, Alchemist21 wrote: But seriously if you’re Town you need to start putting in more effort.
Yes.In post 938, Enchant wrote:You want to say i am not efforting?In post 935, Alchemist21 wrote: But seriously if you’re Town you need to start putting in more effort.
You aren't tbf - even measured against other experiences with you.In post 938, Enchant wrote:You want to say i am not efforting?In post 935, Alchemist21 wrote: But seriously if you’re Town you need to start putting in more effort.
In post 935, Alchemist21 wrote: But seriously if you’re Town you need to start putting in more effort.
Well yeah
I think Enchant knew what you meant and is just refusing to effort.In post 946, PenguinPower wrote: I meant specifically wrt assessing yourself, not overall