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Post Post #1300 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:21 am

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In post 1286, Aisa wrote: I don't really know, Fuyuhiko. You seemingly kept pushing me without ever directly addressing my point as I recall and now you seem to think Gimli is scum, but I've seen scum!Gimli, and he made a lot less sense. He never explained anything. Here he looks like he's trying to rally the town around common causes. Like Kyoko 3p and voting for you.

But then you go and do things like calling out Kyoko for whatever she's doing in the exact same way that I think about the problem, so, rn I have no clue what is going on.

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when have you seen me scum btw?
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Post Post #1301 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:21 am

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I am shit in both alignments.
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Post Post #1302 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:22 am

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In post 1124, Gimli wrote: first of all we're gonna flip kuzu

when kuzu flips mafia, we're gonna kill kyoko

then play d3

VOTE: kuzu
This seems kinda out of nowhere
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #1303 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:22 am

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In post 1297, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 1098, Herta wrote: Using hail again seems to me not a good play.
In the words of TL 'scum mindset'
How so? I think there’s reasons to not use hail tonight. I would suggest Marashu holster rather than use another power so hail can be done again later though.
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Post Post #1304 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:22 am

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In post 1123, Gimli wrote: GET YOUR VOTES OFF AISA
Is there a reason for this to be so certain?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #1305 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:23 am

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In post 1128, Gimli wrote:
In post 346, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote: I discarded vanilla
In post 432, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote: Yeah I'm just gonna fullclaim this
I have to ability to pick a player and a word 3 times per game as a night action, if they post that word the next day they die
isn't that a little funky? your discard was vanilla but your actual role is a killing ability.

I wonder if on d2...

:tinfoil:

kuzu and kyoko are groupscum. check: horrible theatrics
Spoiler: scum theatre or something
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In post 672, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote: VOTE: Kyoko Kirigiri
I think this is where I want to start looking this day phase.
Now you mad e me wor rie d abo ut tal king

nice

:facepalm:

if act ion s wen t thr ough I'm
alr read y cle ar

sti ll ple ase don t kil me a use less kill
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In post 704, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 672, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote: VOTE: Kyoko Kirigiri
I think this is where I want to start looking this day phase.
Curious as to why
I don t know. I wish frie nds woul dln t sus pect ea ch oth er in this game of des pair :(

damn is hard to talk like this with auto corr etc lmao
and on and on
You really think that was scum theatre? Cause I kinda don't
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Post Post #1306 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:24 am

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In post 1258, Gimli wrote: you can WK kyoko all you want, but from liking a bunch of her posts on d1 you started d2 voting there. neither on d1 nor on d2 you seemed to have a sensible progression on her. right now, same deal, the progression doesn't work. with me as well it's pure OMGUSing now.

I'll never think you're town after this.
In post 1265, Gimli wrote: *comes d2

the progression is wonky. now is there any town or scumhunting post kuzu made that anyone thought 'okay this is a townie player'? asking to whoever wants to interact with me on this scumread. sell me on kuzu's town, anyone, if you can. if not, let's flip it?
These two ideas are diametrically opposed
If you truly believe I’m scum to the point of never changing your mind, the opinions of others should mean nothing to you.
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Post Post #1307 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:25 am

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@Kokichi
vote Gimli with me.
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Post Post #1308 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:25 am

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In post 1130, Enchant wrote: Conclusion: NM can have guilty. But most likely he is bullshitting as none of these are "directly condemning".
I haven't played with N_M in years. Does he actually do this regularly? I remember him being a lurker/troll but he actually seems adamant right now since he hasn't dropped it yet.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #1309 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:28 am

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UNVOTE:

I can't finish catching up right now. But I can do so in about 30 minutes or so. I'll just unvote since I'm way behind at the moment.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #1310 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:30 am

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In post 1288, Gimli wrote: @herta: have you read my posts about kuzu's progression on Kyoko, from defending her all d1 to openvoting her on d2? and never expanding on that scumread because kyoko started to roleplay being targeted with his ability so he started to push her for it (then dropped it).
I really dislike, as in I don't like the tone of either of you.

Townies in general aren't all that consistent, so I don't think progression argument is all that alignment indicative. I didn't see anything wrong with what went down with kyoko.

I think this is a town fight really.
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Post Post #1311 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:30 am

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Kokichi, Aisa and Herta all feel alright to me currently. Which is rather ironic given my feelings earlier but both Herta and Aisa have done things that change my mind.
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Post Post #1312 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:30 am

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In post 1310, Herta wrote:
In post 1288, Gimli wrote: @herta: have you read my posts about kuzu's progression on Kyoko, from defending her all d1 to openvoting her on d2? and never expanding on that scumread because kyoko started to roleplay being targeted with his ability so he started to push her for it (then dropped it).
I really dislike, as in I don't like the tone of either of you.

Townies in general aren't all that consistent, so I don't think progression argument is all that alignment indicative. I didn't see anything wrong with what went down with kyoko.

I think this is a town fight really.
Who do you see as scum then?
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Post Post #1313 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:32 am

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In post 1296, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 1097, Aisa wrote: Maybe throw in Kokichi into the scum bucket for just voting me
Wow, you're also very good at this game. I must be scum for voting you.
Wow, nice selective quoting me
In post 1097, Aisa wrote:Maybe throw in Kokichi into the scum bucket for just voting me by quoting Marashu's post instead of giving any original justification.
In post 1300, Gimli wrote:
In post 1286, Aisa wrote: I don't really know, Fuyuhiko. You seemingly kept pushing me without ever directly addressing my point as I recall and now you seem to think Gimli is scum, but I've seen scum!Gimli, and he made a lot less sense. He never explained anything. Here he looks like he's trying to rally the town around common causes. Like Kyoko 3p and voting for you.

But then you go and do things like calling out Kyoko for whatever she's doing in the exact same way that I think about the problem, so, rn I have no clue what is going on.

UNVOTE:
when have you seen me scum btw?
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Post Post #1314 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:32 am

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In post 1297, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 1098, Herta wrote: Using hail again seems to me not a good play.
In the words of TL 'scum mindset'
If you think proceeding without information is good for town, then sure.
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Post Post #1315 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:33 am

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In post 1306, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote:
In post 1258, Gimli wrote: you can WK kyoko all you want, but from liking a bunch of her posts on d1 you started d2 voting there. neither on d1 nor on d2 you seemed to have a sensible progression on her. right now, same deal, the progression doesn't work. with me as well it's pure OMGUSing now.

I'll never think you're town after this.
In post 1265, Gimli wrote: *comes d2

the progression is wonky. now is there any town or scumhunting post kuzu made that anyone thought 'okay this is a townie player'? asking to whoever wants to interact with me on this scumread. sell me on kuzu's town, anyone, if you can. if not, let's flip it?
These two ideas are diametrically opposed
If you truly believe I’m scum to the point of never changing your mind, the opinions of others should mean nothing to you.
I need the opinions of others to eliminate you from the game
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Post Post #1316 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:34 am

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In post 1308, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 1130, Enchant wrote: Conclusion: NM can have guilty. But most likely he is bullshitting as none of these are "directly condemning".
I haven't played with N_M in years. Does he actually do this regularly? I remember him being a lurker/troll but he actually seems adamant right now since he hasn't dropped it yet.
In one normal when we had elo NM claimed guilty on townie and voted them.

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Post Post #1317 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:35 am

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Kyoko, I want to ask this (again) now that we have more info:
Why did you choose to act like you were affected by my role? I think I can see a new logic to you doing it and I’d like if you could confirm or deny it.
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Post Post #1318 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:36 am

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In post 1313, Aisa wrote: I wanna go watch MasterChef right now. Before I go, I leave you with this riddle: what if Gimli is the other Pirate
explorers doesn't count. everyone was scumreading me when I replaced in and I'd like to think I'm much better scum than that.

I'll say this, though: everything I'm doing this game has been pro-town so far.

and I'm sorry aisa I'm not a 3p I'm a townie.

also I'm starting to scumread herta.
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Post Post #1319 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:37 am

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In post 1317, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote: Kyoko, I want to ask this (again) now that we have more info:
Why did you choose to act like you were affected by my role? I think I can see a new logic to you doing it and I’d like if you could confirm or deny it.
I was genuinely just acting out to see people's reactions. I was thinking maybe I can test if you claimed rightfully or not, and see who catches it.

plus I was being a bit playful - was also softing my role HARD so wanted it a bit hidden in all that "mode"
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Post Post #1320 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:37 am

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In post 1310, Herta wrote:
In post 1288, Gimli wrote: @herta: have you read my posts about kuzu's progression on Kyoko, from defending her all d1 to openvoting her on d2? and never expanding on that scumread because kyoko started to roleplay being targeted with his ability so he started to push her for it (then dropped it).
I really dislike, as in I don't like the tone of either of you.

Townies in general aren't all that consistent, so I don't think progression argument is all that alignment indicative. I didn't see anything wrong with what went down with kyoko.

I think this is a town fight really.
VOTE: herta
you're scumclaiming
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Post Post #1321 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:38 am

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In post 1319, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote:
In post 1317, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote: Kyoko, I want to ask this (again) now that we have more info:
Why did you choose to act like you were affected by my role? I think I can see a new logic to you doing it and I’d like if you could confirm or deny it.
I was genuinely just acting out to see people's reactions. I was thinking maybe I can test if you claimed rightfully or not, and see who catches it.

plus I was being a bit playful - was also softing my role HARD so wanted it a bit hidden in all that "mode"
Oh. I was kinda hoping you did it since I was your desired target from Night 1 but because of hail it didn’t work out.
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Post Post #1322 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:39 am

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this
In post 1283, Herta wrote: I really dislike both Fuyuhiko and Gimli here.
is heavily inconsistent with this
In post 1310, Herta wrote: I think this is a town fight really.
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Post Post #1323 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:39 am

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@kuzu: why did you say a protective should go to herta again?
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Post Post #1324 (ISO) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:41 am

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In post 1284, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote: Doctor should be on Herta tonight.
what is this about? why?

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