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Bingle what do you think of my assessment that you have done very little scumhunting this game beyond the readslist that wasn't followed up on?Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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This wagon just isn't it. Meowth has some scummy posts but I have the general vibe this is scummy limbait town. The readslist was bad but I see town post crud like that all the time, it's just weirdly explained and off-the-cuff. I don't really feel like this is gonna flip scum.In post 1550, Thestatusquo wrote: Meowth [ 5 ] unowen, guiltylion, Save the dragons, LLD, SleepykrewBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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nope im broken that wont work anymore
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To add onto this I don't even really think this is a super scum-pushed wagon, maybe like 1 or 2 on here. I just think town is going the wrong direction.In post 1576, SirCakez wrote:
This wagon just isn't it. Meowth has some scummy posts but I have the general vibe this is scummy limbait town. The readslist was bad but I see town post crud like that all the time, it's just weirdly explained and off-the-cuff. I don't really feel like this is gonna flip scum.In post 1550, Thestatusquo wrote: Meowth [ 5 ] unowen, guiltylion, Save the dragons, LLD, SleepykrewBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I am also townbinning ActionDan good analysis on page 63.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Xof can you sort your reads list into semi-organized town-null-scum bins?Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Ya I heard my phone vibrate while I was trying to sleep
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I’m going back to sleep and at some point during tomorrow I will read up
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I’d say that I have been scumhunting, it’s just not the only thing I’ve been doing. I’d also say that I have followed up on the reads list, in that I’ve directly solicited feedback and discussion about individual reads.In post 1575, SirCakez wrote: Bingle what do you think of my assessment that you have done very little scumhunting this game beyond the readslist that wasn't followed up on?
If you wanted to not argue in bad faith and ask why I haven’t voted anyone, the answer is that I think it’s better to have no elimination today at the moment and am still working towards that end."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
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Oh god it’s you.In post 1583, Alisae wrote: Hello
Ya I heard my phone vibrate while I was trying to sleep
I stayed up all night
I’m going back to sleep and at some point during tomorrow I will read up
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Goodnight"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Why is no elim good today?In post 1584, Bingle wrote:
I’d say that I have been scumhunting, it’s just not the only thing I’ve been doing. I’d also say that I have followed up on the reads list, in that I’ve directly solicited feedback and discussion about individual reads.In post 1575, SirCakez wrote: Bingle what do you think of my assessment that you have done very little scumhunting this game beyond the readslist that wasn't followed up on?
If you wanted to not argue in bad faith and ask why I haven’t voted anyone, the answer is that I think it’s better to have no elimination today at the moment and am still working towards that end.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Why is no elim good today?In post 1584, Bingle wrote:
I’d say that I have been scumhunting, it’s just not the only thing I’ve been doing. I’d also say that I have followed up on the reads list, in that I’ve directly solicited feedback and discussion about individual reads.In post 1575, SirCakez wrote: Bingle what do you think of my assessment that you have done very little scumhunting this game beyond the readslist that wasn't followed up on?
If you wanted to not argue in bad faith and ask why I haven’t voted anyone, the answer is that I think it’s better to have no elimination today at the moment and am still working towards that end.
We are on evens. It is unlikely there is a vig given that scum has the potential to get access to any vig shot and scum have 4/15 players, which is too many for a scum vig to be likely. It is unlikely that we have multiple or strong protections. We don’t fully understand our power role functionality yet (not treasurer experiments proposed). We have an unkillable cop."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Because we just elect a new cop the next day, from a pool of people we suspect anyway. If enchant dies tonight, we all collectively get to go:
"Well, enchant is dead, who gets to be cop?"
If enchant doesn't is dead, we all collectively get to go:
"Well, enchant doesn't is dead, who gets to be cop?"
Our power roles don't die when the people holding them do."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Yeah but if the PRs die we don't get their results from that nightBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Yes, but if the cop dies and we don’t get an investigation, scum just shot someone we thought was reasonably scummy instead of someone who was actually a townread.In post 219, Bingle wrote: We should use the sheriff assignation as a pseudovig. I will almost certainly be voting Enchant for Sheriff.
I strongly lean towards no elimination D1 because the level of swing in the setup from the smalltown nature means there likely no extra killing roles and D1 is the best day to skip a lim.
If enchant doesn’t die, we’re not forced to trust the results we get long term because we can just pick a new cop (who can then investigate enchant, leading to a feedback loop of cleared sus townies)"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Of course, this is all based on the premise that we’ll be able to fund cop on the regular and that nothing in the joats makes it super likely we’ll be getting off evens anyway."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Hence… I want to know approximately how long our treasury will last and what the joat roles are, although I don’t actually care who has which roles and LLD absolutely should not tell scum if she’s not going to fund a specific role, like tracker."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Not specifically a response to this, but this is representative:In post 1586, SirCakez wrote: Why is no elim good today?
Why were you so sure that I was scum trying to twist mechspeak to my advantage when you clearly didn't understand what my mechspeak was? Like, LLD was absent in the early game while I was going over this because of the shutdown of her push on you, fine. But why weren't you expressing doubts then if you were were concerned instead of now when we've halfway committed to my plan (see enchant actually being cop).
Why did you decide to call me scum instead of ask for clarification when you clearly didn't understand anything I was advocating?
Do you genuinely believe that "Twisting the mechanics to benefit scum" is howIplay mafia? I who am especially liable to be BOP'd on bad speculation and mechanics given my sole contributions to the site have been reviewing large and complicated games for balance and mechanical breaks over the last year and a half and was semi retired from playing the game even before that? Especially given that this is the only Shea game that I haven't been the main reviewer for since 2020 afaik, and so am even more likely than most to have an insight into how he builds and balances setups?
Walk me through any town thought process that explains your approach to me, because I'm seeing like no genuine attempt at sorting and instead just kind of a handwaivy "I don't see anything towny from Bingle" and "Bingle is talking about mechanics, he's probably scum.""He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Also, did anyone else not get that I was basically arguing that enchant be our elimination for today when I threw my weight there with the sheriff race?"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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I really should' tell you this but yes, no-liming is... Not great idea.Wizard-Mercenary
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Bingle I know you said earlier that you'd rather sit back and see how other people use the roles and that's why you didn't declare for any positions, but how are you feeling now that the council is refusing to give you the info you want? Wouldn't this game have been easier to mech-spec if you had just become mayor or something yourself
overall I like most of the stuff you're posting but I'm not sure how to feel about the fact that you were willing to sit back and let other players actually get the PRs and potentially hide info from you, it seems counter to your general strategy of Doing Mech Shit"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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Is that a generic “no lim is bad” or specific to this game?"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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I don't consider no-lim is bad, if it's good option.In post 1598, Bingle wrote: Is that a generic “no lim is bad” or specific to this game?
But with my knowledge, it's not.Wizard-Mercenary
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