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[osuka]

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[Meuh]

question: how do you go from

osuka's take on Fire's posts around the time he made them line up a lot with my feelings which is nice
Leaning town there

to

Current feeling: VPB/Osuka team, if town in there then scum in Skitter/Hellbooks
Rest can be town

without me posting like zero content during that time?

Honestly forgot about what you said there
Regardless, when I took at look at the collective ISO of you/Skitter/VPB/Hellbooks, you fit within the group quite nicely and I found that to be pretty meaningful

the group? there's not gonna be four scum.

What
“The group” is a scumpool
Not a whole mafia team

[fireisredsir]

on a good day, if there are rainbows and flowers and sunshine and perfect weather and the animals are all smiling and the sun doesn't emit UV so it can't cause skin cancer, and when i'm in an exceptionally good mood, i could say that 127 is game-advancing

but then what the fuck else on your iso fits under that category? it's a shitfest in there

pedit: @fire

i dunno i think ive advanced the game a lot

it sounds like you have an issue with the way i like to play the game

which ok

sorry i guess

but have fun with trying to catch scum that way bc it isn't alignment related at all

[osuka]

it's nice to see that for once in my fucking life, i'm not the most confused person in a game of mafia

[osuka]

on a good day, if there are rainbows and flowers and sunshine and perfect weather and the animals are all smiling and the sun doesn't emit UV so it can't cause skin cancer, and when i'm in an exceptionally good mood, i could say that 127 is game-advancing

but then what the fuck else on your iso fits under that category? it's a shitfest in there

pedit: @fire

i dunno i think ive advanced the game a lot

it sounds like you have an issue with the way i like to play the game

which ok

sorry i guess

but have fun with trying to catch scum that way bc it isn't alignment related at all

if i had an issue with the way you like to play the game i wouldn't push you on that because that's nai. what i do have an issue with is you pretending like you've posted anything that matters without actually being able to point to it

i'll ask again: can you point me towards posts of yours you think have provided new, insightful content into the game?

[fireisredsir]

i don't really feel like pushing there rn anyway or fighting for it but i just felt like noting it since it was what i was feeling in the moment

so now it wasn't a shitpost anymore, it was just actual garbage that i shouldnt push you for posting because you admit that it was?

i have no idea what you're talking about here tbh the post you're quoting wasn't related to you at all, it was continuing my tris convo

kindly quote what you're replying to, especially if your response is 13 posts late to the conversation

i posted a response to tris and then posted again in follow up less than 1 minute later i didn't think it would be that confusing

[osuka]

something something that's what a pedit is for something

[Meuh]

question: how do you go from

osuka's take on Fire's posts around the time he made them line up a lot with my feelings which is nice
Leaning town there

to

Current feeling: VPB/Osuka team, if town in there then scum in Skitter/Hellbooks
Rest can be town

without me posting like zero content during that time?

Honestly forgot about what you said there
Regardless, when I took at look at the collective ISO of you/Skitter/VPB/Hellbooks, you fit within the group quite nicely and I found that to be pretty meaningful

i said nothing! that's the fucking point!!!!

there wasn't any reason for your read on me to progress because there was NOTHING coming out of my slot other than a garbage one-liner of tangibly game-related content i derived from skimming every page for 15 seconds at 4 am

Why are you so outraged at the idea of someone’s perspective on a low content slot changing through the use of POE and interactions from other players?
Someone’s alignment doesn’t shine through purely from their own posting, as it turns out!!!

[osuka]

whatever fuck it, it doesn't matter

can you respond to 429?

[osuka]

question: how do you go from

osuka's take on Fire's posts around the time he made them line up a lot with my feelings which is nice
Leaning town there

to

Current feeling: VPB/Osuka team, if town in there then scum in Skitter/Hellbooks
Rest can be town

without me posting like zero content during that time?

Honestly forgot about what you said there
Regardless, when I took at look at the collective ISO of you/Skitter/VPB/Hellbooks, you fit within the group quite nicely and I found that to be pretty meaningful

i said nothing! that's the fucking point!!!!

there wasn't any reason for your read on me to progress because there was NOTHING coming out of my slot other than a garbage one-liner of tangibly game-related content i derived from skimming every page for 15 seconds at 4 am

Why are you so outraged at the idea of someone’s perspective on a low content slot changing through the use of POE and interactions from other players?
Someone’s alignment doesn’t shine through purely from their own posting, as it turns out!!!

i'm literally going to write a scraper to see how many times i was mentioned between these posts

stand by

[Meuh]

i've found baltar's posting to be a little town. he looks like he's trying to pick apart the puzzle of the game. now, he might just be trying to project that image, but so far its all felt natural enough

he finds a perverse enjoyment in saying just blatantly completely wrong things when he's scum and then laughing as people trip over themselves thinking that scum would never

where does it look like he's doing that in this game?

that was a follow up point to the thing about him saying he was townie this game

i can picture him laughing as he types that

oh hmm. but, i do think he's been towny idk

These posts alone make me wanna lim Tris

[Meuh]

i'm convinced the probability of both fire and meuh being town is about the same as my car getting hit by a meteor

Is this regarding our interactions with each other or like our position in the game? Or do we have a collective scuminess so unimaginably high that at least one of us has to be scum?

[osuka]

we have a collective scuminess so unimaginably high that at least one of us has to be scum

[Meuh]

VOTE: Osuka

this is exceptionally strange - there are several viable wagons at this point in time that you could reasonably pivot to if you're getting cold feet, none of which are me. what the fuck? it makes no real sense as town because i haven't posted anything for you to work off of, but it makes even less sense as scum because i haven't posted anything for you to work off of so this is never gonna get off the ground.

am i missing something huge here or is this just the dumbest vote in the thread so far

Tbh I was gonna vote Baltar because I had worse feelings on him, but then thought I’d do you instead for the sake of applying pressure and getting more substantial content
Didn’t rly get cold feet on Skitter, though I did like some stuff in her most recent posts before my vote. I more wanted to take a step in sorting the other players in my scum pool better, and my vote on Skitter did this much less meaningfully than one on you did

so you're throwing your vote around to get me to say stuff?

Exactly! That’s the the main way to use your vote before we get close to a lim. It was a proactive way to make use of it.

[Meuh]

I sleep now
Gn!

[fireisredsir]

i'll ask again: can you point me towards posts of yours you think have provided new, insightful content into the game?

im having an extremely hard time believing that you could genuinely think this is a line of questioning that will lead anywhere productive

there is absolutely nothing i could say here that will satisfy you bc you can very easily just go "nah thats not good enough"

so why are you asking it. what are you trying to accomplish here

obviously i think that most of my posts have provided content. ive made like idk 5-10 that were just memes but those are also useful imo for me at least for helping to feel out people's vibes and how they respond

if you think that all of my posts are useless and provide nothing then i don't really have any interest in engaging with you on this point. you can vote me for that if you want and you will be wrong

im not going to argue with you over which of my posts pass your arbitrary bar for adding valuable content to the game and not being a waste of space because that sounds very unpleasant and also pretty boring and useless

[Datisi]

vote count 1.07

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-05-05 22:00:16).

yeet

fireisredsir [2]:

VP Baltar, osuka

Ausuka [2]:

skitter30, Skygazer

osuka [2]:

Meuh, hellbooks

skitter30 [1]:

tris

Skygazer [1]:

Ausuka

Meuh [1]:

fireisredsir

not voting [0]:

mod notes

skitter30 is v/la fridays and saturdays.
VP Baltar semi-v/la friday through monday.
this is a mod note.

flavour

[osuka]

question: how do you go from

osuka's take on Fire's posts around the time he made them line up a lot with my feelings which is nice
Leaning town there

to

Current feeling: VPB/Osuka team, if town in there then scum in Skitter/Hellbooks
Rest can be town

without me posting like zero content during that time?

Honestly forgot about what you said there
Regardless, when I took at look at the collective ISO of you/Skitter/VPB/Hellbooks, you fit within the group quite nicely and I found that to be pretty meaningful

i said nothing! that's the fucking point!!!!

there wasn't any reason for your read on me to progress because there was NOTHING coming out of my slot other than a garbage one-liner of tangibly game-related content i derived from skimming every page for 15 seconds at 4 am

Why are you so outraged at the idea of someone’s perspective on a low content slot changing through the use of POE and interactions from other players?
Someone’s alignment doesn’t shine through purely from their own posting, as it turns out!!!

i'm literally going to write a scraper to see how many times i was mentioned between these posts

stand by

i promised, i delivered:

Code: Select all

/mnt/c/users/f/s/re/mafiascum dev !1 ?12 ❯ python3 ./scraper.py                                           felipe@Freyja
between posts 216 and 277, osuka was mentioned in 1 posts:
        ['266']
and he was directly quoted in 0 posts:
        []
/mnt/c/users/f/s/re/mafiascum dev !1 ?12 ❯

if you don't believe me you can just run this

Spoiler: scraper.py

Code: Select all

from bs4 import BeautifulSoup
import requests

thread_id = 90886

if __name__ == '__main__':
    url_base = 'https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php'
    start, end = 216, 277

    pg_start = start - start % 25
    pg_end = end + 1 - end % 25

    mentions, quotes = [], []

    for st in range(pg_start, pg_end, 25):
        rq = requests.get(url_base, params={
            't': thread_id,
            'start': st,
        })

        soup = BeautifulSoup(rq.text, 'html.parser')
        
        for post in soup.find_all('div', {'class': 'postbody'}):
            post_number = post.find('span', {'class': 'post-number-bolded'}).text[1:]
            if int(post_number) < start or end < int(post_number):
                continue
            
            post_content = post.find('div', {'class': 'content'})
            post_quotes = []
            
            for element in post_content.find_all('blockquote'):
                if element.parent is post_content:
                    post_quotes.append(element)
                element.extract()

            post_body = post_content.text

            # horrible hack to remove vote counts lol
            if 'this is a mod note.' in post_body:
                continue
            
            if 'osuka' in post_body.lower():
                mentions.append(post_number)
            
            for quote in post_quotes:
                # horribler hack to get name of whoever got quoted. please never use this in anything that matters
                *quote_target, = quote.find_all('a', href=True)
                quote_target = quote_target[1].text
                if 'osuka' == quote_target.lower():
                    quotes.append(post_number)
                    break

    print(f'between posts {start} and {end}, osuka was mentioned in {len(mentions)} posts:')
    print(f'\t{mentions}')
    print(f'and he was directly quoted in {len(quotes)} posts:')
    print(f'\t{quotes}')

[osuka]

literally NOTHING happened between these two posts so unless:
- the POE included townreads on EVERYBODY except for me and vpb, or;
- the POE included strong enough negative associatives for vpb and townreads on everybody else, or;
- you have a fucking crystal ball;

then that post is fabrication and overwhelmingly likely a whole load of shit

[osuka]

VOTE: Osuka

this is exceptionally strange - there are several viable wagons at this point in time that you could reasonably pivot to if you're getting cold feet, none of which are me. what the fuck? it makes no real sense as town because i haven't posted anything for you to work off of, but it makes even less sense as scum because i haven't posted anything for you to work off of so this is never gonna get off the ground.

am i missing something huge here or is this just the dumbest vote in the thread so far

Tbh I was gonna vote Baltar because I had worse feelings on him, but then thought I’d do you instead for the sake of applying pressure and getting more substantial content
Didn’t rly get cold feet on Skitter, though I did like some stuff in her most recent posts before my vote. I more wanted to take a step in sorting the other players in my scum pool better, and my vote on Skitter did this much less meaningfully than one on you did

so you're throwing your vote around to get me to say stuff?

Exactly! That’s the the main way to use your vote before we get close to a lim. It was a proactive way to make use of it.

you can get a pass for this

[osuka]

not for anything else though

[osuka]

i'll ask again: can you point me towards posts of yours you think have provided new, insightful content into the game?

im having an extremely hard time believing that you could genuinely think this is a line of questioning that will lead anywhere productive

there is absolutely nothing i could say here that will satisfy you bc you can very easily just go "nah thats not good enough"

so why are you asking it. what are you trying to accomplish here

obviously i think that most of my posts have provided content. ive made like idk 5-10 that were just memes but those are also useful imo for me at least for helping to feel out people's vibes and how they respond

if you think that all of my posts are useless and provide nothing then i don't really have any interest in engaging with you on this point. you can vote me for that if you want and you will be wrong

im not going to argue with you over which of my posts pass your arbitrary bar for adding valuable content to the game and not being a waste of space because that sounds very unpleasant and also pretty boring and useless

that's not true - you can definitely say something that will satisfy me, but this is definitely not it

i'm trying my absolute hardest to give you a fair chance of changing of my opinion in the most honest way possible. if you can't do it here then i'll take it as confirmation that everything i said about your slot is correct, so it's in your best interest to give it a shot lest you get deathtunneled d1

help me help you and point me towards ONE post other than the one i mentioned where you've actually posted a meaningful analysis of anything this game so far for other players to read. you don't even have to try that hard if you've provided all the content you said you did

[osuka]

i will ALWAYS call someone's bluff if they haven't done shit but are pretending to have done so

[osuka]

if anyone else wants to use that script in another game or to do literally anything you feel like doing, go nuts

i'm sure you fine people can figure out how to change it to suit your particular purpose because python is basically english anyway

[fireisredsir]

im sorry but ive said all im interested in saying. if you don't think i have content then me linking my posts isn't going to change anything. im not going to continue this line of discussion because i'm finding it upsetting and i don't think it's useful to the game anyway.