In post 906, meowmeow wrote:
i think marci hasn't really been scummy, and there have been things i found town indicative. i'm not really interested in pressuring there to get a better read, because i think marci tends to react really badly to pressure and it makes the game messier and isn't necessarily actually helpful (sorry marci)
she's a hard slot to read because she tends to play in a more actively pro-town way as scum but reading her that way just means if she tries to like play to her wincon and stuff she gets punished for it which feels bad. i think the best approach is to read her mostly normally but keep in mind she can and often does stuff as town which most people find scummy. it's a hard balance to strike because it's not like the meta is super reliable at all but i don't think reading her normally is that likely to work either
it's probably worth noting that roden said earlier he townreads marci for slaying, which means scum marci is more likely to go out of her way to slay in this game?
I cannot wrap my head around what this is trying to say about how to read marci. Don't pressure her. Read her 'normally' (whatever that is) but
don't
read her 'normally'. What do we do? This explanation makes me feel like we're just not supposed to try.
The defense kind of contradicts themselves saying they act townie as scum.
I think it’s a fair assessment, and more of a buddy defense in the sense they are familiar with Marci and wanted to kind of wait and see.
That’s how I am with RCE, tbh, or I’d have full on went for the 1v1, but i don’t really mind shading there for now.
Yeah I noticed the contradictions. The whole paragraph just confuses me. If she plays pro-town as scum what does playing to her win condition mean other than being anti-town?
I agree with your conclusion though, that meow is someone familiar with Marci wanting to wait rather than a buddy trying to protect her. I just wish she could give better insight in regard to what to do rather than what not to do. Like, in response to my post meow says she doesn't want to vote Marci unless she thinks Marci is scum and wants her dead. But how do we get to that read?
"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
-furtiveglance
Hi something came up, and Im effectively v/la for s few days. I might not be able to check into this game often before deadline with it imminently pending
I'll check in tomorrow to see if I need to move my vote
In post 906, meowmeow wrote:
i think marci hasn't really been scummy, and there have been things i found town indicative. i'm not really interested in pressuring there to get a better read, because i think marci tends to react really badly to pressure and it makes the game messier and isn't necessarily actually helpful (sorry marci)
she's a hard slot to read because she tends to play in a more actively pro-town way as scum but reading her that way just means if she tries to like play to her wincon and stuff she gets punished for it which feels bad. i think the best approach is to read her mostly normally but keep in mind she can and often does stuff as town which most people find scummy. it's a hard balance to strike because it's not like the meta is super reliable at all but i don't think reading her normally is that likely to work either
it's probably worth noting that roden said earlier he townreads marci for slaying, which means scum marci is more likely to go out of her way to slay in this game?
I cannot wrap my head around what this is trying to say about how to read marci. Don't pressure her. Read her 'normally' (whatever that is) but
don't
read her 'normally'. What do we do? This explanation makes me feel like we're just not supposed to try.
The defense kind of contradicts themselves saying they act townie as scum.
I think it’s a fair assessment, and more of a buddy defense in the sense they are familiar with Marci and wanted to kind of wait and see.
That’s how I am with RCE, tbh, or I’d have full on went for the 1v1, but i don’t really mind shading there for now.
Yeah I noticed the contradictions. The whole paragraph just confuses me. If she plays pro-town as scum what does playing to her win condition mean other than being anti-town?
I agree with your conclusion though, that meow is someone familiar with Marci wanting to wait rather than a buddy trying to protect her. I just wish she could give better insight in regard to what to do rather than what not to do. Like, in response to my post meow says she doesn't want to vote Marci unless she thinks Marci is scum and wants her dead. But how do we get to that read?
i mean, you sort people by thinking about what's more likely to come from town or scum. just do that, except if the thought goes along the lines of "this is blatantly anti-town, i don't think town would do something like this" i think it's best to disregard that because she consistently gets miseliminated for similar reasons, and that's all i know. i'm not some kind of marci super-expert, i don't have like amazing meta tells that can exactly tell you her alignment, i have just seen her get miseliminated a lot and know she acts like limbait as town. i'm not sure what more i'm supposed to be saying here.
i'm not sure what you mean by the pro-town thing, but to explain my original post; i think generally speaking as scum she is more likely to be active and, like, play in a way that people tend to townread. i don't really want to read her that way because it means if she tries to do good things she gets scumread for it and if she yells at people she gets townread for it and that seems bad
snivy I have decided not to hop on your wagon after much deliberation
let's get this penguin
VOTE: penguinpower
he
is
capable of doing more than this as scum, but looking at this game it's like night and day. and disregarding the whole meta thing, i don't like his posts anyway - i still don't like getting prodded, poking people to vote, and leaving, and i don't like coming in to fight with sircakez in retaliation for his vote and then when cakez retracts that just retreating back into the icy wilderness.
I don't feel confident that Snivy is scum, but I would like a Marchi lim even less. I'm concerned to move my vote bc it will leave the Marci wagon in the lead and I like don't trust the wagon on Marci at all. The games most divisive player, Aureal as a pressure vote (I assume, since the reasoning was 'you didn't answer my question', and a player that's about to get replaced for inactivity who joined when asked by Aureal. Like, that's a terrible wagon.
