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Post Post #1600 (ISO) » Sat Aug 12, 2023 4:04 am

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In post 1590, BlueSnakelet wrote: VOTE: ofrhz
lol now that alisae is dead this slot doesnt even try to pretend its town
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Post Post #1601 (ISO) » Sat Aug 12, 2023 4:05 am

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how about we respect alisae's well reasoned townread on orf? that is like not that wild bc I myself reached it earlier than em
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Post Post #1602 (ISO) » Sat Aug 12, 2023 4:06 am

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to the others voting there - HPE, with alisae being town, did you not have any reads change? for me the flip literally shook the foundation of my worldview, as like building from alisae scum is fundamentally different than alisae town, and I feel that should be the case for others
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Post Post #1603 (ISO) » Sat Aug 12, 2023 4:38 am

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I don't really have a take on ofr tbh I just think Snek is scummy and like Koba said we should just follow Ali's SR
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Post Post #1604 (ISO) » Sat Aug 12, 2023 4:43 am

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I think the entire idea of "the purge" is dumb, we should be changing our elim targets based on flip, it would be stupid to just keep eliminating the same list of people after the supposed leader of that scum pile just flipped town
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Post Post #1605 (ISO) » Sat Aug 12, 2023 4:49 am

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In post 1602, DkKoba wrote: to the others voting there - HPE, with alisae being town, did you not have any reads change? for me the flip literally shook the foundation of my worldview, as like building from alisae scum is fundamentally different than alisae town, and I feel that should be the case for others
Like this makes a lot more sense then just continuing the purge
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Post Post #1606 (ISO) » Sat Aug 12, 2023 4:50 am

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im in the above camp

VOTE: bluesnakey
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Post Post #1607 (ISO) » Sat Aug 12, 2023 4:50 am

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i'm of the mind that a town flip doesnt necessarily invalidate a town bloc but the purge definitely has its drawbacks

i think its funny tho
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Post Post #1608 (ISO) » Sat Aug 12, 2023 4:51 am

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i do think ranger is town for suggesting the purge
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Post Post #1609 (ISO) » Sat Aug 12, 2023 5:13 am

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In post 1608, Skygazer wrote: i do think ranger is town for suggesting the purge
ya i think scum are kinda piling onto ranger's idea for a quik elim lol

knowing the mech isnt scum controlled but schadd controlled is disappointing tho lol

but also the reactions to the mech are good info at least so.
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Post Post #1610 (ISO) » Sat Aug 12, 2023 5:14 am

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In post 1604, SirCakez wrote:it would be stupid to just keep eliminating the same list of people after the supposed leader of that scum pile just flipped town
Alisae wasn't a supposed leader of the scum pile.

Alisae was a compromise.

The purge has a focus on the slots coasting by and doing nothing. It's a bit subjective what qualifies. Mine continues to be ofhrz->xyzzy->RCEnigma->sheepsaysmeep. It eliminates slots doing nothing and eliminates slots outside the towncore.
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Post Post #1611 (ISO) » Sat Aug 12, 2023 5:16 am

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In post 1610, Ranger wrote:
In post 1604, SirCakez wrote:it would be stupid to just keep eliminating the same list of people after the supposed leader of that scum pile just flipped town
Alisae wasn't a supposed leader of the scum pile.

Alisae was a compromise.

The purge has a focus on the slots coasting by and doing nothing. It's a bit subjective what qualifies. Mine continues to be ofhrz->xyzzy->RCEnigma->sheepsaysmeep. It eliminates slots doing nothing and eliminates slots outside the towncore.
why is bluensek outside of this
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Post Post #1612 (ISO) » Sat Aug 12, 2023 5:17 am

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bluesnek has been literally like declining in activity like their first posts were good, then it was like meh, then bad, and now their last contribution was literally an empty vote.


and rce isnt doing nothing lol

are u woofing after all?
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Post Post #1613 (ISO) » Sat Aug 12, 2023 5:21 am

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In post 1609, DkKoba wrote:ya i think scum are kinda piling onto ranger's idea for a quik elim lol
Name names.
In post 1539, schadd_ wrote:
Alisae (10):
DkKoba, Meuh, HighPrincessErinys, BlueSnakelet, iamveryhappy, Dannflor, Skygazer, Save The Dragons, SirCakez, Ranger
If you want to sheep Alisae, you should sheep eir townread on the Save The Dragons slot. e made a compelling case for why Doctor Drew was town, and I believe Doctor Drew was in his town meta. Save The Dragons continues to be town.

SirCakez is also town.

You're quoting Skygazer, who you believe isn't involved.

You are town.

Who's the scum?

I'll fight hard against Meuh and HighPrincessErinys being listed as scum.

I maintain there's compelling reasons for BlueSnakelet being scum.

Who's the scum piling onto the idea of a quick elim?

The possibilities are quite few.
{iamveryhappy, Dannflor} is genuinely the only players within who could be.

Hardly a scum-sheeping-Ranger composition.

It's definitely possible scum were
among
the voters. They sure weren't the
backing
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The resistance to the purge yesterday more likely is where most scum were.
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Post Post #1614 (ISO) » Sat Aug 12, 2023 5:23 am

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In post 1611, DkKoba wrote:why is bluensek outside of this
Because BlueSneklet is semi-cleared for TheBulge being the target of schadd's execution, as well as simply: I don't buy the scum case against them. I see BlueSnakelet's content as town, I don't buy the scumcase, and there's reason for clearing the slot.
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Post Post #1615 (ISO) » Sat Aug 12, 2023 5:24 am

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why orf first and not a slot like MT
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Post Post #1616 (ISO) » Sat Aug 12, 2023 5:25 am

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In post 1612, DkKoba wrote:and rce isnt doing nothing lol
Check again. He's literally done nothing and
confessed as much
.
In post 1436, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 1415, Ranger wrote:
In post 888, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:RCE did not similarly shift because I get the impression that RCE isn't engaged with the game and has no intention of figuring it out right now.
I disagree with this take. That RCEnigma isn't engaged with the game's clear enough. I would lump him in with xyzzy for still being readable off what he
has
produced, and it being +scum. I don't think he's making genuine pushes.
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And most are lazy, zero-level takes with no deeper thought present.
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Post Post #1617 (ISO) » Sat Aug 12, 2023 5:26 am

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In post 1614, Ranger wrote:
In post 1611, DkKoba wrote:why is bluensek outside of this
Because BlueSneklet is semi-cleared for TheBulge being the target of schadd's execution, as well as simply: I don't buy the scum case against them. I see BlueSnakelet's content as town, I don't buy the scumcase, and there's reason for clearing the slot.
i saw bluesnek's early content as probable from town and leaned scum bc of alisae positioning, but now thats out the window. there is nothing obvious town about the slot and they have fallen way off

so again, why orf, who was townread by conftown now, a conftown who explained why they townread it, over a slot like MT?
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Post Post #1618 (ISO) » Sat Aug 12, 2023 5:26 am

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In post 1615, DkKoba wrote:why orf first and not a slot like MT
Well, Morning Tweet's being replaced I believe. I'd happily wagon the slot if there were support as MT makes the list of purge slots.
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Post Post #1619 (ISO) » Sat Aug 12, 2023 5:26 am

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In post 1616, Ranger wrote:
In post 1612, DkKoba wrote:and rce isnt doing nothing lol
Check again. He's literally done nothing and
confessed as much
.
In post 1436, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 1415, Ranger wrote:
In post 888, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:RCE did not similarly shift because I get the impression that RCE isn't engaged with the game and has no intention of figuring it out right now.
I disagree with this take. That RCEnigma isn't engaged with the game's clear enough. I would lump him in with xyzzy for still being readable off what he
has
produced, and it being +scum. I don't think he's making genuine pushes.
This is correct.
RCEnigma is a player capable of matching your posting, Koba. He can produce hundreds of posts.

He has
seventeen
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And most are lazy, zero-level takes with no deeper thought present.
you dont need to explain to me how RCE plays town because I had to explain it in a 3way i replaced into to towncase my own slot
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Post Post #1620 (ISO) » Sat Aug 12, 2023 5:30 am

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i went to refresh myself on RCE and his posts are super insightful into how he is thinking about the gamestate and its such a misrepresentation to say he is doing nothing wow.

i drove the overall postcount of active players to the extreme, but rce isnt an active player like that always and will fall behind easily, but he is still keeping up.

regardless, bluesnek/mt are 2 good targets today unless another emerges thats more obvious or they both obvtown themselves in some way
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Post Post #1621 (ISO) » Sat Aug 12, 2023 5:35 am

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, , , , and remain true.

{MUSHSHAGANA, HighPrincessErinys, Meuh, SirCakez, DKKoba, Skygazer, BlueSnakelet, Doctor Drew/Save The Dragons} is my town core.

Everyone outside, I'm willing to purge.

, .

If 6-8/8 of my towncore are town, then purging everyone outside
still nets scum
, a minimum of three and potentially more.

The idea doesn't work if it's not committed to. It causes more harm than good if started then stopped. If you wanted to jump ship and abandon course after the first townflip, then why take part in the first place? The purge was never going to hit exclusively scum.
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