Veiled Committee Mafia: List Mods Edition [game over]

[DragonEater70]

K so yeah IDC atp about the day cop thing, I want to actually play mafia.

[DragonEater70]

Dragon is town btw

I know :p

[DragonEater70]

Spoiler: irrelevant fluff

The one who consumes!
Or now that I think about it, the one who consumes dragons?
@DragonEater do you eat dragons or are you a dragon that eats in some sort of notable way?

Well it's complicated. My username does refer to eating dragons (see also my signature), but when I was little I was told to make a wish and my wish was to become a dragon and that's sort of what my dream has always been. So in a sense I'm a dragon who eats other dragons.

Meuh, you said you like scumhunting? Let's play a game. We totally ignore anything that happened before page 116, and based just on things from that page onward, who do you think is scum?

(I'm also gonna answer this question but first I actually have to read these pages)

[DragonEater70]

Okay gg ez I just got recruited into Aureal's cult and it's really nice here.

Who recruited you?

Okay gg ez I just got recruited into Aureal's cult and it's really nice here.

Who recruited you?

I am quite sure this was a joke.

Yes exactly.

[DragonEater70]

Spoiler: Summary of all amway stuff

Aureal's Amway role:

1. Use a sales pitch to create a hood. Up to two neighborhoods a day can be created. (1623, 2303)
Specifically, the process to open a hood is:

• quote someone to target them
  
• write a sales pitch phrase in the post
  
• if they respond, a hood is created. (1881)

**note: the sales pitch does not have to be in the game thread. So scum can give each other Amway amongst themselves** (2519, 2524)

2. In the hood, the recruiter can bring the hooded person into the MLM and the recruitee would get a copy of all Amway abilities, including ability to hood and recruit people (Aureal - 1564)

3. Once recruited into Amway, original night actions can't be used unless you leave Amway, which costs the leaver's vote the next day. Day actions, passive attributes, and roles are otherwise retained. (1623)

4. People in Amway can continue to recruit after Aureal is dead, and dead Amway still count towards number of recruits (2382)

5. xyzzy will answer whether there's enough recruits to perform an action. The # of recruits is determined at the start of night (2535)

Abilities unlocked:

(an ability can be used once a night - Aureal 2872)

Recruit 1 to send a message
3 to neighborhood
6 to roleblock and open a neighborhood and autorecruit (same target)
10 to vig and recruit -

is this the same target

?

* Neighborhood creation/recruitment should fail if targeting another Amway (2838, 2845). This could be used to detect unknown Amway if scum secretly Amway themselves .

List of hoods and recruits:

1. Aureal hooded Anix (per 1564), who hasn't accepted recruitment
2. Aureal hooded KatyKimFanClub, who accepted recruitment (2230, rationale is in 2219)
3. KatyKimFanClub hooded Theta Alpine, who accepted recruitment (2261, 2316)
4. KatyKimFanClub hooded Ircher,

did the hood get created & Ircher accept recruitment?

(2279, 2835)
5. Theta Alpine tried to hood Skygazer,

Skygazer needs to respond to this post

(2360)
6. Theta Alpine hooded Bingle, who accepted recruitment into Amway (but recruitment should fail due to Bingle's role) (2359, 2364)
7. Bingle pitched to DragonEater70 to demonstrate that he can't hood others (2538? or maybe 2536?)

* some of the linked posts should have recruitment phrases

Special interactions:

Bingle - can't recruit anyone else to Amway, can be neighborized, can accept recruitment to Amway but probably doesn't count as a recruit in terms of total recruit numbers (Aureal - 1564)
Theta Alpine - with the desperate modifier, she can use neighborhood ability like a cop check

This summary is appreciated and even though you could do it at scum it at least makes reading the thread more bearable so ty so much.

[DragonEater70]

atp feel like dragoneater might be coached scum by aureal to never push on her

No I pushed her hard earlier.
I might still push her.
I'm still trying to figure things out because I think the solve is either:
Cook/Drew/2 others
Or
Aureal/Ircher/2 others

And I don't think these are compatible, and right now I'm leaning the first option but if Cook flips town then I'd definitely go for the second.

Why can’t it be cook/aureal? That’s a world I think is very likely.

I feel Ircher has very strong associatives with Aureal and has been consistently anti-Cook. But maybe it's random noise. I don't think I've considered the possibility so I might take a look at it but like I said, I have 70% confidence that AUreal is town right now.

Have you heard about this new opportunity to make extra income?

No, what does it entail?

[DragonEater70]

I'm super interested

[DragonEater70]

Okay I changed my mind about looking at only recent posts because I read Bingle's page 118 post about Cook/Ranger thingy and it made me remember something.

On the pages before the post below was made, there were a bunch of players who I think are town, that were voting each other. These were, if I recall correctly, AniX, StD, Koba, Bingle, and maybe some others.

UNPOPULAR OPINION (please read):

We

shouldn't

massclaim. We also

shouldn't

have a fight between team Koba and team AniX.
I think scum is in the lurkers. Let's wait for them to show up and then vote whoever is scummiest.

Then Cook's response is this.

dragoneater scum?

To me this sounds like scum that is mad that a town player dares disrupt a tvt fight. And also mad that I dare think their scumpartners are lurking.

So I might be fine with voting there. But I do actually want to complete my game of just looking at last 7 pages and seeing who is scummiest.

[Meuh]

Was Cook pro or anti massclaim? Because on first glance that's what I would assume motivated her comment

[Meuh]

Spoiler: irrelevant fluff

The one who consumes!
Or now that I think about it, the one who consumes dragons?
@DragonEater do you eat dragons or are you a dragon that eats in some sort of notable way?

Well it's complicated. My username does refer to eating dragons (see also my signature), but when I was little I was told to make a wish and my wish was to become a dragon and that's sort of what my dream has always been. So in a sense I'm a dragon who eats other dragons.

Meuh, you said you like scumhunting? Let's play a game. We totally ignore anything that happened before page 116, and based just on things from that page onward, who do you think is scum?

(I'm also gonna answer this question but first I actually have to read these pages)

Planning on doing this at some point tonight, could be fun

[DragonEater70]

here's a thought

VOTE: kkfc

I'd like to know your thought

[DragonEater70]

Who do you see actually "playing Mafia" at this point as opposed to just going "ugh let's kill someone!"?

Good point.
But Theta's deadline has run out so I'm playing mafia for realz now.

[DragonEater70]

Maybe if Bingle would stop putting out bad takes, I wouldn't feel like my most important task is correcting them!

Who do you see actually "playing Mafia" at this point as opposed to just going "ugh let's kill someone!"?

Sorry , post contains 0 mafia solving and all excuses , disregarded.
Sort the damn game or die

Your refusal to answer the question is noted.

Your fallacious defense by attacking someone else is noted.

[Cook]

Was Cook pro or anti massclaim? Because on first glance that's what I would assume motivated her comment

i'm pro massclaim

[Cook]

under the assumption that enemies of massclaim are scum, thus the two word rebuttal

[DragonEater70]

Maybe if Bingle would stop putting out bad takes, I wouldn't feel like my most important task is correcting them!

Who do you see actually "playing Mafia" at this point as opposed to just going "ugh let's kill someone!"?

Let's just kill Cook.

Cook is obvious town and your confbias is getting on my nerves too.

You've yet to explain how Cook is obvious town whereas I have explained why Cook is scum. Maybe you should check your own confirmation bias.

Yeah your confbias "case" did 0 to convince me and you're just so far up your tunnel its pointless to convince you.

When was the last time you bothered to interact with cook?

Dude Ircher's got a point though. Can you like explain why Cook is obvtown other than "they sound like a player who's tired of being mislimmed"?

[DragonEater70]

ugh i have 0 idea whats going on anymore and im kinda busy for a while but at a glance koba v aureal is SvT

Who's the S?

[DragonEater70]

Spoiler: stuff

Mafia wont push things bc they dont wanna piss p ppl off into pushing them back.

There are 4 mafia and all aureal has is 2 scumreads the whole game.
Yes the progression looked ok on the surface level but again, list 5 reads aureal has this entire game.
3k posts, aureal has posted many of them, and still not a single fucking poe, or reads list, or towncore, or anything resemble resembling attempting to make reads

This post is so wrong it's

First, "Mafia won't push things" is a pile of crap opinion, but really...

Trying to not piss people off is supposed to be describing how I've played this game?!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh and I already gave reads on every slot in the game, but oh, I guess little things like facts don't matter

Guess you didn't do a great job evaluating my 'progression' if you didn't even bother paying attention to that, genius

Like, the problem with these reads is that they are not explained in any way. And please do not pretend that you don't see a problem with that. I've played enough games with you to know that you are very capable of explaining your reads masterfully.

[DragonEater70]

I'd eat a tomato like an apple tbh I love tomatoes

Same

[DragonEater70]

somehow the non game related food discussion feels like significantly better than mech talk and also I'll contribute that I love Munster cheese

I agree

[DragonEater70]

Please let's just vote Klick.

Reasoning?

[DragonEater70]

Based on page 119 only:
Meuh is scum
Theta null
Aureal nullish but leaning town
Bingle super town (roger on who needs to be cleared)
CCS is town
Koba is town

Based on page 120:
Fuck I hate this page so much, where did all the obvtown players go
ofr is nullish leaning town
Skygazer nullish leaning town
PC is rereading
Koba is saying "Holy shit do u ever stop posting about your role" which I find amusing mainly because I agree with them. They are still town.
Ircher is nullish leaning town but I will scumread them if Cook flips green.
I really wanna flip Cook red now so I can scumread Meuh's desperate desire to steer away from a Cook lim

Page 121:
Koba is town whiteknighting scum.
Ircher is super duper town
IDK is Cook is even playing at this point? Her posts sound like she's trying her hardest not do anything AI at all.
Meuh is 100% scum if Cook flips scum here. That defense is just crazy.

122:
I think I am too tired for this shit but CCS is still town.
Aureal maybe scum?
Okay Meuh is actually towny here. Good grief I might end up townreading her despite the confbias.
Katy ese un mafioso?
Skygazer too null for null

123:
Meuh is very celery here
Skygazer nulltowning it again!
AniX still pushing me which is just meh.
Ofrhz is slightly scummy for randomly deciding to vote Klick instead of Cook with no reasoning given.

Page 124:
I sus DragonEater70 for starting to make shorter posts when all game long he was making long posts. This is clearly caught scum who doesn't know what to do in the face of a spot-on push from AniX.
Meuh can be maybe-not-scum for now. But I want her to also play.

Based on these pages (and also page 116 which I forgot to include), the town are:
Koba, Ranger, Skygazer, Bingle, CCS, Ircher
These people are null af:
AniX, Theta, PC, Ofrhz, Klick
And these are very probably scum (but none are lockscum!!! I just want to be very clear about that and let Bingle know I agree with them):
Aureal, Meuh, Cook, Katy

I still think Cook is the best wagon today but I promised Koba that I'll try to actually play mafia and not just vote Cook, so right now I will
VOTE: Katy

[KatyKimFanClub]

How are Cook and I both probably scum given the likelihood of us belonging to the same listmod group. Both our roles deal with randomization and are of negative/mixed utility.

[KatyKimFanClub]

It's pretty fair that people find me scummy though, I definitely made the conscious decision to not try to scumhunt this game given my role.

[KatyKimFanClub]

Katy ese un mafioso?

Wait I just read this again. You think I'm scum for microwaving cheese?