Micro 1091 - Prism v. 1L Year [Game Over]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

UNVOTE:

I dunno I guess I just have a very high expectation for town!you

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

page twenty time to find the baddies

[catboi]

like gls thoughts on catboi exactly mirror my own. so they make sense to me. i just dont bother to question dflors townread cuz i think its tactically bad.

I do not think that it is unreasonable to not be swayed by Dunn's reasons. I wasn't. I still don't have a read on catboi.

It also did not bother me that he asked Dunn to explain the read, that is also reasonable. My issue was where GL went after that.

It did not read to me, like GL was trying to divine if Dunn's read was a plausibly genuine read or not, and therefore whether having that read was scummy or not. At least, I did not see anything about that coming from GL's posts following Dunn's explanation.

Instead, it seemed like he pivoted into trying to convince Dunn not to have that read. And he was not even arguing that Cartboi is scum. Just that Dunn should not have a town read because it is

possible

for scum to replicate it.

I don't see why a townie would actually care if Dunn has a day 1 town read on Catboi, especially one Dunn openly said he is not married to

Spoiler:

I am not disregarding the 4 people I am townreading for the rest of the game, I do think it is a good place to start though.

But there is scum motivation to stop people from forming too many town reads.

Maybe I am ascribing too much to the unsaid, but I thought it was pretty plausible that GL's questioning of Dunn was for exactly the reason of figuring out if it was genuine or not.

[catboi]

catboi I want to say is town but I'm worried he may be trying to pocket me so idk. Wouldn't vote rn but definitely not safe town

look i'm just trying to save you from being misyeeted for once in your career

[catboi]

I do not think that I am generally very good at convincing people I am town once I am on the "back foot" as pooky put it, and the thread starts being about me (to be fair, this is probably as true if I were scum as it is when I am town).

And seeing as how I hit E-1 already, and I don't plan on throwing myself all into "proving myself" or what ever, so I think I'll just claim.

I am a 2-shot Tracker.

So, yall can discuss if yall are killing me for claiming, or letting me live for being a PR, and decide on that basis.

And I'll just skip the hassle of trying so hard if I am dying today.

what's your flavor

[fferyllt]

Dunnstral has been prodded.

[Lukewarm]

I do not think that I am generally very good at convincing people I am town once I am on the "back foot" as pooky put it, and the thread starts being about me (to be fair, this is probably as true if I were scum as it is when I am town).

And seeing as how I hit E-1 already, and I don't plan on throwing myself all into "proving myself" or what ever, so I think I'll just claim.

I am a 2-shot Tracker.

So, yall can discuss if yall are killing me for claiming, or letting me live for being a PR, and decide on that basis.

And I'll just skip the hassle of trying so hard if I am dying today.

what's your flavor

I am The Perpetually High-strung Stressball.

The flavor text was basically keeping up with other peoples study habits, including pressuring Prism to study more (with them)

[catboi]

hm, okay

having a tracker in a setup with (potential) millers is kind of comedic if it's true, but I don't feel like eliminating a PR claim on Day 1. Still feels like there's probably a scum between Luke and GL but it's not something that needs immediate resolution in my opinion.

VOTE: Dunn

I guess I land here: not really strongly townread by anyone but also not getting pressured.

[Lukewarm]

Still feels like there's probably a scum between Luke and GL but it's not something that needs immediate resolution in my opinion.

Why do you have the two of us grouped together in this thought?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: dunnstral

[Lukewarm]

Maybe I am ascribing too much to the unsaid, but I thought it was pretty plausible that GL's questioning of Dunn was for exactly the reason of figuring out if it was genuine or not.

I feel like I said it fairly clearly in the post you quoted here, but I did not have an issue with GL questioning Dunn's read. And the thing that pinged me was his comments to dunn after dunn explained the read.

I do feel a bit like I am beating a dead horse at this point. But I also don't know where I can find a living horse to beat until more people come post more things.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i heard dunnstral is alive if you're looking for a horse to beat

[Dunnstral]

like gls thoughts on catboi exactly mirror my own. so they make sense to me. i just dont bother to question dflors townread cuz i think its tactically bad.

I do not think that it is unreasonable to not be swayed by Dunn's reasons. I wasn't. I still don't have a read on catboi.

It also did not bother me that he asked Dunn to explain the read, that is also reasonable. My issue was where GL went after that.

It did not read to me, like GL was trying to divine if Dunn's read was a plausibly genuine read or not, and therefore whether having that read was scummy or not. At least, I did not see anything about that coming from GL's posts following Dunn's explanation.

Instead, it seemed like he pivoted into trying to convince Dunn not to have that read. And he was not even arguing that Cartboi is scum. Just that Dunn should not have a town read because it is

possible

for scum to replicate it.

I don't see why a townie would actually care if Dunn has a day 1 town read on Catboi, especially one Dunn openly said he is not married to

Spoiler:

I am not disregarding the 4 people I am townreading for the rest of the game, I do think it is a good place to start though.

But there is scum motivation to stop people from forming too many town reads.

I agree and also your slot was doing the same thing in 244. I remember feeling like I was being badgered and didn't really know why people kept questioning my read on Catboi that they obviously don't agree with.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Dunn

I guess I land here: not really strongly townread by anyone but also not getting pressured.

That does not mean I am mafia.

[Dunnstral]

Still feels like there's probably a scum between Luke and GL but it's not something that needs immediate resolution in my opinion.

Why do you have the two of us grouped together in this thought?

I agree with catboi thinking this. My own thoughts on this game right now are 1 between your slot and Gl, and 1 between ydrasse and SirCakez. If you are town Gl is more likely in my mind, and ydrasse/SirCakez is admittedly poe. Leaning more towards SirCakez.


Looking at potential partner interactions, I see posts 337 and 361. Along with post 321. In post 430 Gl seems to be suspecting Luke, catboi, and me. I don't see any mention of their read on SirCakez besides asking me what I thought of it

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Guilty Lion

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the only person cakez can be mafia with is catboooooi

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

citation? I pulled that read out of my !@#

[Meuh]

I do not think that I am generally very good at convincing people I am town once I am on the "back foot" as pooky put it, and the thread starts being about me (to be fair, this is probably as true if I were scum as it is when I am town).

And seeing as how I hit E-1 already, and I don't plan on throwing myself all into "proving myself" or what ever, so I think I'll just claim.

I am a 2-shot Tracker.

So, yall can discuss if yall are killing me for claiming, or letting me live for being a PR, and decide on that basis.

And I'll just skip the hassle of trying so hard if I am dying today.

I could do the funniest thing ever and CC this claim too

Spoiler:

(I won't)

[Meuh]

Luke's entrance overlaps a lot with my own perspective on the game over time and I don't know if that's something I should feel good or bad about

[catboi]

Still feels like there's probably a scum between Luke and GL but it's not something that needs immediate resolution in my opinion.

Why do you have the two of us grouped together in this thought?

My feeling is you're pushing him and he's been pushing your slot, I don't strongly townread either of you, it just feels like dynamic where there's a scum usually. Either he caught elle and you saw pushing back as the only viable angle or he was going at you in bad faith and you saw through it. It

doesn't

feel like a town vs. town dynamic, at least to me.

[Lukewarm]

Still feels like there's probably a scum between Luke and GL but it's not something that needs immediate resolution in my opinion.

Why do you have the two of us grouped together in this thought?

My feeling is you're pushing him and he's been pushing your slot, I don't strongly townread either of you, it just feels like dynamic where there's a scum usually. Either he caught elle and you saw pushing back as the only viable angle or he was going at you in bad faith and you saw through it. It

doesn't

feel like a town vs. town dynamic, at least to me.

This line feels disconnected from what has actually happened in the thread.


While his vote is on my slot, I did not get the impression that GL was particularly pushing my slot when I read through. and even looking back, he voted elle, and explained that vote, but then largely has been focused else where. He has like 2 total posts about Elle 146 253

So it feels really strange to me that you are framing it as us mutually pushing one another, or that the scenario in which I am town is one where I saw through that and recognized a bad faith push - especially since my issues with GL had nothing to do with anything he said about Elle.

[catboi]

Okay.

[Lukewarm]

I am still trying to get a feel for your thoughts, so that was not a particularly helpful response.

I am trying to figure out why me flipping town would influence how likely you feel GL is to be scum.

[Lukewarm]

You said that part of it was because we were mutually pushing each other, and I counted that by saying that GL has not been particularly pushing me.

Does that change your take on whether me flipping town would bolster a GL scum read? Or do you feel like I missed something from the GL push?

Do you feel that way about us, even if you were wrong about the mutual push? if so, why?