Micro 1091 - Prism v. 1L Year [Game Over]

[Lukewarm]

(You did not take it)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I asked because you seemed very focused on convincing me that you are town. But you are also voting for me.

But I liked your response well enough.

like I don't really get how you reread the game to here and came to that as the most noteworthy thing to push on

it feels like its been cherrypicked out of GL's iso to fit a specific narrative that is not actually even that convincing tbh

What do you think is the most noteworthy thing to push on at this point, if not that?

I don't really feel like anyone has jumped out and claimed scum yet at this point, do you feel like I missed something?

I have bell and meuh as both likely town. Soft leaning town on Ydra.

I thought a lot about you, but the passion behind that scum read went away.

Cakez posts have largely felt like ones that I don't know how to sort one way or the other, although I did like his take on Ydra seeming informed (even if I am not sure I agree) as a reasonable suspicion that he could have in the moment that he voiced it.

Dunn and Catboi, I don't have either down as town, but did not see any particularly noteworthy reason to suspect them either.

And then there is my GL suspicion, so that is where my vote is.

Where should my vote be, if not there? what did I miss in my catch up?

what r u smoking i do not care about your read on me at all my goal is to figure out if you are mafia blowing smoke up my ass.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i dunno where your vote should be

but you entering the thread voting one of your voters then another of your voters feels political and not really like you want to catch baddies

i thought about your reasoning for GL and i think its kind of weak sauce and its like you decided to vote him then figure out an excuse rather than the other way around.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like gls thoughts on catboi exactly mirror my own. so they make sense to me. i just dont bother to question dflors townread cuz i think its tactically bad.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you are kind of stroking my ego with the "think about you a lot line"

i appreciate that

[fferyllt]

Tentative V/LA feeling worse instead of better.

Got it, thanks!

[Lukewarm]

what r u smoking i do not care about your read on me at all my goal is to figure out if you are mafia blowing smoke up my ass.

I don't know man, 414, 439, and 442 all came across to me like you were trying to change my mind.

Especially 442, which came across as you genuinely trying to explain to me the town thought process that led to your actions, and did not come with any questions or anything for me.

[Lukewarm]

Maybe I was wrong to phrase it as "very focused on convincing me" so much as: I read 442, and it did not feel like the way someone would respond to someone that they thought was scum -- but you were voting me. So I asked about your read

And your response felt more like you were on the fence, and that disconnect went away.

I think I actually am swinging towards you just being town after actually interacting with you.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wild take wholly unfounded in reality

[Lukewarm]

like gls thoughts on catboi exactly mirror my own. so they make sense to me. i just dont bother to question dflors townread cuz i think its tactically bad.

I do not think that it is unreasonable to not be swayed by Dunn's reasons. I wasn't. I still don't have a read on catboi.

It also did not bother me that he asked Dunn to explain the read, that is also reasonable. My issue was where GL went after that.

It did not read to me, like GL was trying to divine if Dunn's read was a plausibly genuine read or not, and therefore whether having that read was scummy or not. At least, I did not see anything about that coming from GL's posts following Dunn's explanation.

Instead, it seemed like he pivoted into trying to convince Dunn not to have that read. And he was not even arguing that Cartboi is scum. Just that Dunn should not have a town read because it is

possible

for scum to replicate it.

I don't see why a townie would actually care if Dunn has a day 1 town read on Catboi, especially one Dunn openly said he is not married to

Spoiler:

I am not disregarding the 4 people I am townreading for the rest of the game, I do think it is a good place to start though.

But there is scum motivation to stop people from forming too many town reads.

[Lukewarm]

wild take wholly unfounded in reality

Okay.

You are welcome to continue to argue that my concern [which I have already convinced myself is unfounded once I had a better understanding of your read on me], is unfounded.

But I am not sure it actually helps either of us lol

[SirCakez]

I'm struggling with Ydrasse now because I feel her reach out to me was town and maybe she did really have the thread vibes and idk I need a better vote now while I think

[SirCakez]

I think there is scum in Luke/Pooky. It just feels like a scum is in that interaction idk how to describe it exactly

[SirCakez]

VOTE: luke
blah blah I'm avoiding pooky etc etc
Catboi is right that this was a scummy entrance and it's stronger then my null town read on elle was. I'm going to point to some specific stuff in a bit.

[SirCakez]

catboi I want to say is town but I'm worried he may be trying to pocket me so idk. Wouldn't vote rn but definitely not safe town

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 1.4

"The Republic endures and this is the symbol of its faith."
-- Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes, in 1932, at the Cornerstone ceremony for the SCOTUS building. That's right, SCOTUS didn't have a roof to call its own until 1932.

Player	Votes
Lukewarm (4)	Bell (82), GuiltyLion (146), PookyTheMagicalBear (147), SirCakez (463)
GuiltyLion (2)	Meuh (356), Lukewarm (427)
Bell (1)	Ydrasse (32)
Ydrasse (1)	catboi (137)
Not Voting (1)	Dunnstral

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate.

No elimination has been achieved. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2023-09-06 12:30:00).

Combined Prism & fferyllt Mod ISO

[SirCakez]

I asked because you seemed very focused on convincing me that you are town. But you are also voting for me.

But I liked your response well enough.

like I don't really get how you reread the game to here and came to that as the most noteworthy thing to push on

it feels like its been cherrypicked out of GL's iso to fit a specific narrative that is not actually even that convincing tbh

What do you think is the most noteworthy thing to push on at this point, if not that?

I don't really feel like anyone has jumped out and claimed scum yet at this point, do you feel like I missed something?

I have bell and meuh as both likely town. Soft leaning town on Ydra.

I thought a lot about you, but the passion behind that scum read went away.

Cakez posts have largely felt like ones that I don't know how to sort one way or the other, although I did like his take on Ydra seeming informed (even if I am not sure I agree) as a reasonable suspicion that he could have in the moment that he voiced it.

Dunn and Catboi, I don't have either down as town, but did not see any particularly noteworthy reason to suspect them either.

And then there is my GL suspicion, so that is where my vote is.

Where should my vote be, if not there? what did I miss in my catch up?

Like example this reads post
Like some is fine but some of it like the read on me, on Dunn and Catboi seems kinda manufactured/positioning himself and then the last line just feels like scum annoyed at being pushed for wrong reasons type vibe
and a lot of the Luke posts have given me that kinda scum attitude feeling
sorry I know this probably makes like no sense lol

[SirCakez]

Oh shit that's E-1 also

[Bell]

UNVOTE:
*snore*

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

catboi I want to say is town but I'm worried he may be trying to pocket me so idk. Wouldn't vote rn but definitely not safe town

its me

i'm stuffing you into my pocket

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

maybe i'm being incredibly unfair, confbiased, and dumb but you feel way more like scum lukewarm who is on the backfoot in a crap spot and not town lukewarm aka PARAGON OF MAFIA HUNTERS who is here to KILL BADDIES AND TAKE NAMES

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if you're town I suggest you find your inner mafia hunter soul and kill some baddies like today

[Lukewarm]

If the bar of expectation for me to possibly be town is "have a scum read that I find palatable by page 20" or you are scum, then I don't know why that is your bar for me, nor do I intend to stress myself out striving to meet it.

I have given you my reads, and you just don't like them, which :shrug:

[Lukewarm]

Like some is fine but some of it like the read on me, on Dunn and Catboi seems kinda manufactured/positioning himself and then the last line just feels like scum annoyed at being pushed for wrong reasons type vibe

I was responding directly to the comment that that could not be the most interesting thing I found during my catch up, so purposefully mentioned every player -- including the ones I did not have a read on.

[Lukewarm]

I do not think that I am generally very good at convincing people I am town once I am on the "back foot" as pooky put it, and the thread starts being about me (to be fair, this is probably as true if I were scum as it is when I am town).

And seeing as how I hit E-1 already, and I don't plan on throwing myself all into "proving myself" or what ever, so I think I'll just claim.

I am a 2-shot Tracker.

So, yall can discuss if yall are killing me for claiming, or letting me live for being a PR, and decide on that basis.

And I'll just skip the hassle of trying so hard if I am dying today.