Open 884: Another Newbie Game | Game Over!

[Gamma Emerald]

I really feel like y’all are barking up the wrong tree by going down this Kitty!scum thought process

[Infinity 324]

ahh yeah gamma's read on you would be tough to fake

pedit who is scum (if i'm town)

like ok say instead of kitty just being scum you have {gamma, dunn, kitty, purple} as my poe that makes more sense and maybe remove you

[Infinity 324]

maybe dann being a deepwolf is more likely haha but if so he deserves to win he out efforted all of us

[Infinity 324]

98 is somewhat towny but he's my weakest tr

VOTE: kitty

[Dannflor]

maybe dann being a deepwolf is more likely haha but if so he deserves to win he out efforted all of us

im kinda suspicious ur not considering this possibility more

I don’t think i’ve been like exceptionally towny

[Dunnstral]

Has Dann out efforted us?

Not meant to be a dig, I just don't see it that way.

[Infinity 324]

maybe dann being a deepwolf is more likely haha but if so he deserves to win he out efforted all of us

im kinda suspicious ur not considering this possibility more

I don’t think i’ve been like exceptionally towny

maybe i should be, it's just i don't often see scum being the top poster in dead-ish games

[Gamma Emerald]

ahh yeah gamma's read on you would be tough to fake

pedit who is scum (if i'm town)

like ok say instead of kitty just being scum you have {gamma, dunn, kitty, purple} as my poe that makes more sense and maybe remove you

Is this @ me or Dann or both?

[Infinity 324]

it's at you

[Gamma Emerald]

I haven’t really vibed with Mr. K much at all, so I would say him and either purple or Dunn
I feel like after my initial issues were hashed out with Dann I have felt good about him. And I trust Kitty here.

[DragonEater70]

VC 2.2

Vote Count 2.2

Infinity 324 (2 = E-2): Dannflor, Gamma Emerald
KittyTacky (1): Infinity 324
Not voting : (4 players)

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-10-03 07:48:32)

[Purplemango]

it would be really helpful if purple mango came in and just gave a couple thoughts on each player

I am basing the reads (?) on things that are not really significant and just made sense to me

I think gamma scum based on it's behavior on the first day, and her suspicions (although they do also make sense given the things said)
I don't have an opinion on you or kittytacky that is relevant right now, I have no problem killing him, I'd rather not you
But it's still makes sense to me that in the end you are scum
infinity looks like town to me, not sure about a specific reason and can be changed
That leaves mostly dunn/mr k which I don't really know about either, but mr k acts like town


Please tell me if I forgot someone who plays

[Dannflor]

can you expand on what about gamma's behavior seems scummy?

and also what about infinity looks town to you?

[Purplemango]

can you expand on what about gamma's behavior seems scummy?

and also what about infinity looks town to you?

I didn't see the votes lmao
ok i re-read things that were written, mainly I based my suspicion on the vote towards me and a few other things, I didn't really pay attention to the conversation that was with you, so I guess that removes the suspicion from her a bit

I don't think as scum it works for me that they kill oppsiedaisy, Considering they voted for her and were among the most active to kill her in the first place.
Mainly based on this
Why do you think they're scum?

[Mr.K]

do you have reasons to suspect Gamma independently, Mr. K?

Yes, mainly the same suspicion I had in D1. I generally don't really agree with her reads in addition to which I also don't see much support for them. She's also seemingly active but a lot of that activity seems sort of superficial.

#36
#46

Here I don't get the same vibe at all myself.

#65

Here I didn't like the line of questioning by Oopsie. We later do find out not only that she is town but she also explains her thought process a bit more, but I still don't think the logic behind her thoughts was very strong. Probably more importantly, this is one of the examples where I feel Gamma could be "hiding in plain sight", just comment something that makes it seem like she's kind of scum-hunting, but not really doing anything useful. Like, this comment she could easily explain away to literally any direction if she needs to. I asked about it later and in #105 she explained it a bit further, but to me the explanation felt like a non-explanation as well, and I again didn't agree with what she was saying either

Other examples of these posts that make her seem active:

#69
#144
#181, #183, #187
While I agreed with the end result here, I didn't really like the she got to her conclusion. It felt like she acted as if she needed convincing but in the end didn't really need much convincing so she got to make three seemingly townish posts for doing something she would have done anyway.
#215

But despite the long list of posts that I'm citing, I can't say that my case is particularly strong. I have the same doubts I had on D1, most of this could be explained by us simply thinking differently. She feels one thing but can't put a pin on why (it's just a vibe) and I disagree with it and also don't share that vibe. Similarly part of my suspicions towards her are based on me "having a vibe" as well.

I think I started pointing fingers now for a couple of reasons: upon a re-read the interaction with Infinity jumped out a bit more while earlier I had kind of ignored it (possibly cause I thought Infinity was town) and really a process of elimination:

If Dann's town, Purplemango's town and I'm town who do we have left?

Dunnstral, Gamma, Infinity, Kitty

Out of the four I think Dunnstral feels more town than the others so we're down to the three. My main issue with Kitty is the slightly odd comment on the hammer and him being somewhat inactive on D1. Does that make him town? Not necessarily, but it does make an even weaker case than my suspicions towards Gamma and Infinity. Especially after the remaining two happen to be the same whose interaction I had just found somewhat indicative of a potential scum pair. This pairing-theory is a thing I am trying to keep in the background, but it's now of course difficult to completely unsee it.

[Gamma Emerald]

[Gamma Emerald]

Yo, this game is dead as fuck

[Dannflor]

yeah

[Dannflor]

idk infinity has no scum reads and that doesn't feel right to me so im fine just eliminating her

[Dannflor]

idk infinity has no scum reads and that doesn't feel right to me so im fine just eliminating them

ebwop

[heipizhu4]

Prodding KittyTacky.

[Dunnstral]

:right:

can you expand on what about gamma's behavior seems scummy?

and also what about infinity looks town to you?

I didn't see the votes lmao
ok i re-read things that were written, mainly I based my suspicion on the vote towards me and a few other things, I didn't really pay attention to the conversation that was with you, so I guess that removes the suspicion from her a bit

I don't think as scum it works for me that they kill oppsiedaisy, Considering they voted for her and were among the most active to kill her in the first place.

Mainly based on this
Why do you think they're scum?

What do you mean by the bolded here?

[KittyTacky]

I forgot about this game, will respond to what was asked of me in a bit.

[Dannflor]

what do you think of infinity, kitty?

[KittyTacky]

kitty can you give me some hot takes on every slot

Dunnstral = probs town, vibes
Dannflor = one of the few people moving the game forward but I can't shake off a suspicion of deepwolf leading town
Gamma Emerald = also probs town
Mr. K = not sure on my earlier TR anymore but I don't think I'm voting here today
Infinity = I might vote here as I find myself agreeing with the push
KittyTacky = idk I'm a little sus of this slot
Purplemango = doing very well for a new player, I think this is newbtown and not newbscum