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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:39 am

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In post 590, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 588, Black wrote: I actually agree with this somewhat.
This isn't always the case
but I think scum are way more likely to have unoriginal thoughts and votes
Is it the case with me?
I think you are asking me for a meta read on you here and I don't really have one
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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:40 am

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In post 592, TimmerRC wrote: Well you have over 5k posts on the site, so I'd say you prob know how mafia is played here?
Fwiw I have over 6k posts here and I'm still trying to figure it out :lol:
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:41 am

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gives me genuine townie frustration vibes, though I guess Timmer would probably be frustrated as scum here too
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:42 am

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In post 594, usesPython wrote: Black get better reads so we can sheep you
If people could do more alignment indicative things that would be cool

You're the second person to say they want to sheep me though. D1 probably isn't the best time to do that. Let me see a couple flips and then I'll cook
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:47 am

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In post 602, Black wrote: gives me genuine townie frustration vibes, though I guess Timmer would probably be frustrated as scum here too
I don't think the frustration is alignment indicative, I think it's pretty natural to get upset there and feel like you're not getting a fair shake

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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:50 am

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In post 558, Gimli wrote: comet I want you to know I'm sheeping you, whoever you think is mafia I trust your insticts with it
I spent half an hour looking for a phone that was in my pocket today, just want you to know what you're getting yourself into here
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:50 am

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When I compare Timmer's frustration with not knowing what to do this game with Gimli's I don't think these feel the same

Timmer seems to be trying to work through his issues with the game and still contribute, whereas it feels like Gimli might be trying to use it as an excuse to lurk and not do much. I'm not really a fan of these two posts being so close to each other:
In post 495, Gimli wrote:
In post 490, Black wrote: Ok I am here today. Let me make some coffee and then I'll look over what I missed
do your thing and let me sheep you
In post 558, Gimli wrote: comet I want you to know I'm sheeping you, whoever you think is mafia I trust your insticts with it

I don't think I can find them
They feel kinda pockety and the "I don't think I can find them" doesn't really feel like a natural thought Gimli would have 20 pages into a game
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:52 am

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In post 560, DragonEater70 wrote: 1. Regarding kittie/Giml: Yes, that's true that town changes their opinions, however I don't see how this should affect my read on kittie? I just liked the thought process and critical thinking there, and Idk if I'm actually scum reading Gimli based off that.
Huh?
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In post 540, DragonEater70 wrote: Anyway I'm sold on scum Gimli tbh
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:52 am

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oh spicy

VOTE: Gimli

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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:55 am

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So you didn't scum read Gimli based on Kittie's case? I interpreted 540 as you indeed thinking it was a strong case and subsequently agreeing that Gimli was scummy.
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:55 am

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I've got a tinfoil I'm keeping close to our chest for a little bit

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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:56 am

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In post 610, usesPython wrote: I've got a tinfoil I'm keeping close to our chest for a little bit
Can I borrow it? I'm running low on tinfoil and I have to bake brownies tomorrow.
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:56 am

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In post 607, Cometbright wrote:
In post 560, DragonEater70 wrote: 1. Regarding kittie/Giml: Yes, that's true that town changes their opinions, however I don't see how this should affect my read on kittie? I just liked the thought process and critical thinking there, and Idk if I'm actually scum reading Gimli based off that.
Huh?
In post 540, DragonEater70 wrote: Wow I LOVE kittie's case on Gimli. kittie has really won me over as being town.
In post 540, DragonEater70 wrote: Anyway I'm sold on scum Gimli tbh
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So you didn't scum read Gimli based on Kittie's case? I interpreted 540 as you indeed thinking it was a strong case and subsequently agreeing that Gimli was scummy.
This is a good point
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:57 am

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I think I'm in between a DE70 and Gimli vote atm. I've gotten pings both ways here. I want to look over both ISO's tomorrow morning when I get time
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:58 am

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I feel like limming inside Gimli/Black/Comet/DE is significantly more likely to hit red than Knott/Kittie/Tim/VIP

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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:59 am

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In post 560, DragonEater70 wrote: 2. I think you are wrong on Timmer being "classic newbtown". Unfortunately I am phone posting and tired so you don't get links, but please go check patchwork's and OMIGRON's ISO's in newbie 2112 or even Comet's, and compare to Timmer's ISO here.
Then have a look at elpis's ISO in newbie 2114 (elpis was scum) and also compare it to Timmer here. Please tell me which ISO Timmer feels most similar to.
I think it's a bit futile to compare newbie meta, no? Isn't the whole point of newbies that they're new and not going to have any kind of pre-existing meta to work with?
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:00 am

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In post 615, Cometbright wrote:
In post 560, DragonEater70 wrote: 2. I think you are wrong on Timmer being "classic newbtown". Unfortunately I am phone posting and tired so you don't get links, but please go check patchwork's and OMIGRON's ISO's in newbie 2112 or even Comet's, and compare to Timmer's ISO here.
Then have a look at elpis's ISO in newbie 2114 (elpis was scum) and also compare it to Timmer here. Please tell me which ISO Timmer feels most similar to.
I think it's a bit futile to compare newbie meta, no? Isn't the whole point of newbies that they're new and not going to have any kind of pre-existing meta to work with?
I disagree, I think you can slot newbies within a few specific archetypes and read them pretty accurately

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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:00 am

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In post 614, usesPython wrote: I feel like limming inside Gimli/Black/Comet/DE is significantly more likely to hit red than Knott/Kittie/Tim/VIP

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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:00 am

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Replace me with you though ;)
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:02 am

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I don't think a deep-wolf/competent scum player here is unlikely.
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:05 am

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In post 562, TimmerRC wrote: Considering that i just found that you are basically voting more than the rest of the game combined right now, I would say that you are posting a ton and know very well where the game is at? You are def my top scumread at the moment.
Hmmm... I think this is an interesting point. I'm going to file it away in my head for later.
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:06 am

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I liked Timmer's case/scumhunting post more than I liked Kittie's.
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:06 am

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In post 621, Cometbright wrote: I liked Timmer's case/scumhunting post more than I liked Kittie's.
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:08 am

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I feel like Tim's case is more likely to be accurate and also more likely to come from scum compared to kittie

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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:11 am

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In post 574, Afrayed Knott wrote: but I didn't push back on you, I instigated the feel. You had virtually ignored me until I put you on my Lim list, as far as I can recall that is
I don't really consider being on a lim list as an active push. Also I'm pretty sure I had already had you on my lim list before you put up yours and posted a readlist where you were 3rd from the bottom so I wouldn't say I ignored you.

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