THE AUDACITY.
In post 13, Titus wrote:
In post 10, Malakittens wrote:
lets let the mech wiz take a look at it
LETS GO TITUS AND GAMMA
FORMULATE.
I simulanteously got town and scum pings from this posting.
Mindmeld at the time but I leaned town ultimately
In post 24, Alisae wrote:
I have a question I wanna think about:
W/ the number of roses, is it worth making people who have guns claim them? I imagine this COULD be a good idea later but not right this minute.
Anyway I'ma go binge one piece goodbye
pocketed because of one piece
In post 30, Alisae wrote:
In post 28, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 24, Alisae wrote:
I have a question I wanna think about:
W/ the number of roses, is it worth making people who have guns claim them? I imagine this COULD be a good idea later but not right this minute.
Anyway I'ma go binge one piece goodbye
What is the proposed advantage here?
mid d1 it forces people to adjust their reads
i like this strat tbh because it forces read fluctuations, i wonder if
alisae
got better insights after eir claim.
In post 48, Alisae wrote:
In post 44, mfeathers wrote:
What the fuck happened here xD I prepped a big intro post to kick off the day....but I missed the start of d1! Ftr I was expecting to start on n1 because that's how games start where I'm from.
Hello all! My name is Maggie and I'm new to the forums! Pleased to make y'all's acquaintances~
Right off the bat, let me specify that this isn't my first forum mafia game-far from it, actually! I actively play forumsite mafia on a different website, and I have a good amount of experience with irl mafia as well. So don't expect many beginner's "what the fuck is going on" questions from me!
That being said, I don't know what forum etiquette looks like around here, so lmk if I mess up somewhere or say something I'm not supposed to. The forumsite I'm coming from is a lot less strict than most and so if I missed a rule somewhere around here, feel free to PM me about it!
A few heads-up about how I play, though.
I'm a vomposter. (Vompost = >100 posts in a single game). I doubt I'll reach that many posts here, but be forewarned that I post a lot!
D1 shitposting. Probably won't do much here since on the other site I play on I know everyone really well and can thus meme with them, but I may do a little shitposting here and there.
I don't think I missed anything. Nice meeting you all and can't wait to play with everyone here!
Okay I feel complete now
welcome to the website
likelier town intro, i feel like scum could easily formulate a contrived thought about alignment either way here
In post 82, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 77, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 37, Gamma Emerald wrote:
VOTE: malakittens
Still confused and kinda bothered by the suggestion that I’m skilled with mech, I can handle it but I would not say I’ve been pivotal to helping win a game that way
How does that make them mafia as opposed to just being wrong?
I mainly voted to call attention back to that
UNVOTE:
In post 84, Titus wrote:
I agree with Gamma. Malakittens putting so much emphasis on is two being mech is odd.
mfeathers, what site are you usually on? Mafiauniverse?
As for guns, they should be claimed after spending. It prevents fakes later and doesn't put a neon sign on who must die.
VOTE: Dunnstral
Too early to defend people.
Gamma
had a justified vote I feel because it was a perception about her that she didnt think was natural
Titus
equally so
In post 117, Titus wrote:
mfeathers, about how many games have you played? What is the most complex setup you felt comfotable with? How would you describe your style (analytical, gut, etc.)?
Knowing
TItus'
join date on this site, this feels like a genuine attempt to understand a new player.
In post 128, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 126, Theta Alpine wrote:
no actually
while it is a win condition
mafia do not have to kill all the roses to win
they still have their traditional win condition
Hmmm
Idk, I feel like there’s more complexity here than some people are suggesting, I just don’t have a good idea what exactly could be the case since I don’t know how scum would be thinking
I’ll just issue a blanket “let’s not devise any grand plans today”
fair
wanting
ari
to confirm a scumread on
enchant
from her own words, makes sense
This literally happened one after the other... I really don't see
Alisae/Gamma
SvS ever here.
Titus
clarified this was town* in a post after
I wonder who
Titus'
thought was sus here.
pocketed because of puns
genuine, town
Both took the time explicitly to correct my perception of the game
Dunn
does this too but in a different context that is neither investigative or casual
In post 269, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 268, Alisae wrote:
I have literally no idea why Wheme made the decisions that he made do we just wanna kill Wheme D1 honestly? Because that seems par for the course for someone like Wheme.
I'm inclined to agree, he's pretty weak scum and he's never really shown interest in improving I think
VOTE: WhemeStar
ali/gamma
both giving
enchant
a pass feels natural because they reach their conclusions independently
In post 292, Alisae wrote:
I have 7 townreads. I'm not saying who they are.
2 scumreads and they're both guns. They're publically known.
and everyone else is unsorted.
play more mafia plz ty
this aligns with what i know of town!
alisae
they tend to keep cards close to chest unless there is an explicit reason to do otherwise and are often already planning or know when that time is
In post 317, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 223, Celebloki wrote:
Personally I still think we forget about an Enchant or Wheme wagon until D2 and instead anyone pushing for an Enchant or Wheme wagon are good fodder for a wagon.
VOTE: SirCakez
I still feel like this is trash logic
VOTE: Celebloki
I approached
Celeb
differently than a vote but I can see why this caught
Gamma's
attention, and it aligns with their perspective of how they use voting this game with
Mala/Wheme
there isnt really a cognitive dissonance in their play with several people at the moment which is +town
not getting the vibe that
titus
is trying to pacify
alisae
here, seems honest.
In post 356, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Ari is falling off for me here because I feel like most of her responses to Bulge are just deflection
Mindmeld, similar thought at the time but didn't want to get involved... hence why I said their back and forth was unproductive.
In post 365, Titus wrote:
In post 340, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 331, Titus wrote:
In post 317, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 223, Celebloki wrote:
Personally I still think we forget about an Enchant or Wheme wagon until D2 and instead anyone pushing for an Enchant or Wheme wagon are good fodder for a wagon.
VOTE: SirCakez
I still feel like this is trash logic
VOTE: Celebloki
VOTE: Cakez
wtf? Do you think I’m chainsawing Cakez, why us your vote a response to me voting Celeb?
I agree with the logic you feel is trash. I don't know about you yet but being oppositional to a bad take and sheeping a good one helps me read you.
sincere
In post 424, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 409, Celebloki wrote:
This is the post that made me decide to go for Cakez over Ari or Ali. Ari started the push and has specific, very established reasons. Ali was engaged a bit in the claim talk and wanting to get rid of guns. Cakez piled on more so for meta'ing Enchant it seems. The vote also came in not long after Ali's. Maybe there was hope there'd be more momentum for a wagon to start that didn't. To me his vote was opportunistic and not from the same place as Ari or Ali.
At this point I'm not making a case on Cakez, I'm just trying a different direction than Enchant. I'll say it again so I'm not mis-represented. I am NOT saying I think Enchant is town and the gun claims are interesting choices to make. I tend to agree with Ali's statement that guns have to die at some point. My stance is just to save them for later.
Okay, that makes sense
VOTE: SirCakez
consistent concept around voting, also isn't tunneling or whimsically voting people
this falls in line with what
Alisae
said in the beginning about mid-day claims for guns being useful for assessing read changes
considering
alisae
is more clear about reads from this point on makes this even more accurate and consistent with concept of mind
+town
In post 439, Alisae wrote:
I can shoot Wheme.
I see no reason why we don't just kill Enchant and I shoot Wheme.
I'm happy to get shot by mafia.
This resolves 3 players with guns.
while i may not entirely agree with this strat, it does seem motivated for town and
ali
is operating off a belief that they are town.
now,
alisae
is exceptional at projecting the self-belief of town even as scum, but i dont think theres a pro-scum agenda attached here.
In post 453, Alisae wrote:
Theta Alpine - I lean town
Dunnstral - I lean town
The Bulge - No read
SirCakez - town
Titus - No Read
Malakittens - town
Taly - No Read
WhemeStar - I want to flip it.
Aristeia - Town
Gamma Emerald - Town
Enchant - I want to flip it.
Celebloki - Probably posting from a town!motivated place.
mfeathers - I lean town
Consistent with my previous analysis of em above
In post 454, Alisae wrote:
my case is that it doesn't matter because I'm shooting them at night
In post 466, Alisae wrote:
In post 465, Taly wrote:
the thing is, i can get behind
enchant
flip, but im not convinced
wheme/enchant
are partners, so thats my hangup with your plan
which, ik i cannot stop you, but its a good idea that we are on the same page here.
they both get flipped regardless.
I have to get flipped at some point as well unless people want to bet the game on me being town.
No one that is a gun ever gets to stay alive in this game.
Too much incentive for mafia to want to pick up guns in this setup and all mafia are roses then they deserve to be rewarded for that decision.
As mafia you don't just throw away the chance at an extra kill. That's just something you don't do.
In post 484, Alisae wrote:
This game would probably be different if Enchant and Wheme were actually town picking gun and behaving in ways that are actually town. If the players felt townie, I would have probably kept my mouth shut about being a gun.
Wheme is distinctly not townie so they get flipped. If they flip town I won't feel bad because flipping Wheme is a very effective way to read Wheme in this gamestate. Townflip will still be valuable to me.
Enchant I dislike based on how they leveraged their claim. I think their play has a lot of wolf!motivation behind it. It can come from town, but the fact they're playing this way demands that they get flipped.
But I think I have many townreads that are just better. I still have a bunch of players I have no read on yet, but I can focus on reading those players once I get Wheme and Enchant flipped, as flipping both of those will make solving a lot easier for me in the future.
I genuinely liked that
Aliase
is taking a long, engagement full of questions from me during this point. Eir responses feel natural and they aren't dismissing what I say or ask.
This is a very pro-town behavior on paper.
In post 489, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Scumreads on Enchant and Wheme, townreads on Alisae, Bulge, and Ari, I think I TR you but I haven’t really thought about the big picture yet this game
I think I also feel good about Theta rn
VOTE: Enchant
I was voting Cakez because I wanted to give the Enchant/Wheme situation some space but that post from early on about clearing Wheme makes Enchant a lot more sus + Alisae claiming N1 gun alleviates the need to leave Enchant to shoot Wheme
In post 532, Titus wrote:
Gamma's a bad vote too.
Is this going to be a herding cats game?
Exasperation, towny because it is imposing an expectation on how proficient town should be rather than blowing up at unpredicted or unfavorable responses.
In post 605, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 586, The Bulge wrote:
dont love this. gamma has been sidelining a lot this game. page after page of d1 mechtalk always makes my eyes glaze over but at least it sometimes comes from earnest townies. i've accused many people before of intentionally distracting the thread with pointless mech, and i dont think that's what theta or even ari is doing here, but this gamma post does strike me as fuelling a big irrelevant fire in a game with short deadlines.
This feels like an excuse of a read, that’s nowhere near the limit of what I’ve done and responding to only that displeases me
I'm trying to follow
Gamma's
read on
Bulge
and having difficulty at this point, but I think the frustration here is sincere simply because I completely would be frustrated by
Bulge's
statement about my play.
Actually, this makes me a bit more suspicious of
Bulge
because I disagree with his premise. Seems like they've only tried to push and lash at players thus far.
In post 614, Titus wrote:
In post 566, Taly wrote:
I want to push everyone to spew reads on Enchant/Wheme/Alisae.
I'm not convinced that any specific shot is a town-controlled one unless there is more input from the playerlist.
All town
Genuinely helpful
The crux of why I give
Titus
a pass for low activity, which is why I'm unconvinced by
Alisae's
scumread.
In post 669, Alisae wrote:
Theta Alpine - feels town
Dunnstral - feels town enough to give a pass d1
The Bulge - feels town enough to give a pass d1
SirCakez - town
Titus - distinctly does not feel townie compared to the rest.
Malakittens - town
Taly - feels town enough to give a pass d1
WhemeStar - Is very much so not more townie than anyone who feels town.
Aristeia - town
Gamma Emerald - town
Enchant - is very much so not more townie than anyone who feels town.
Celebloki - town
pisskop - town
more detailed reads
In post 673, Alisae wrote:
In post 670, Taly wrote:
ali
are you doing burden of proficiency on me
i wouldnt be mad (in fact, flattered), but im really curious if you are
I don't know how to deal with you but I know that I don't want to so I'm leaving you for later.
honest
In post 690, Alisae wrote:
In post 687, Taly wrote:
Why do you feel so confident with
ari
? Even if
Enchant
flipped town?
I have a solid understanding of what her strengths and weaknesses are and I understand how to work with that.
like.
they're all literally just working with me here.
i struggle to see them trying to sway me, trying to dismiss or do anything but honest answering.
In post 734, Alisae wrote:
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
you do realize that I am advocating for all of the guns to be flipped ya?
That includes me
this isnt survivalistic, which would've been the main argument against
alisae
wanting to kill off guns as mafia
they intend to die in some form and i dont think thats good payoff as scum with their role, so its town.
I agree that I don't quite agree with
Alisae
here
Already said why, but
Gamma
!scum tends to hang onto votes more I feel, especially as they have no scum-motivated reason (survivalistic, changing thread narrative) to break steam off a widely suspected slot.
