Toriel's Patience (end)

[Sakura Hana]

do you still scum read implosion, sakura

Not really no.

[Dannflor]

Sakura i think if you were mafia you probably would have voted me and made some shit up about how I am TMI'ing you town or something

nah you're tmi'ing brown eyes town not sakura

[Taly]

Sakura i think if you were mafia you probably would have voted me and made some shit up about how I am TMI'ing you town or something

and me?

[Alisae]

Taly not everything is about you stop being so narcissistic /j

[Taly]

LMAO honestly that made me laugh

[Meuh]

Going on a spiel, I think that the only scum!implo world is where Meuh is also scum.
At least, based off my knowledge of scum!implo, he is more than likely to bus D1.
That being said, I think town!implo is much more likely.

This seems like a big jump though, especially since Freedom doesn’t seem to have an actual read on me

I'm saying that based off what I know of implo's scumgame and I'm leaning towards implo being town so it isn't really a read on you.

Did you take into consideration the viability of bussing in this setup? I feel like it's generally relevant and especially is for a player like Implo who seems like the type to take into account when playing

[Meuh]

It's a stance that feels simultaneously underbaked and super specific and that's what makes me take issue with it, it makes it feel like it's likely to be backed by an agenda

[Taly]

Against their impulses, I must bring Taly away for chores and grading, so responses will be limited at best tonight. Best be.

Sol

(We are not a hydra, we are a plural system.)

[Meuh]

I'm "unimpressed" with Meuh posts so far, nothing that makes me think she's town

She can argue it's for "nudging" but voting a slot she was previously townreading rather than one of the people in her PoE is just whacky to me

Feels like she's trying to explore wagon options

Happy keeping my vote there at the moment

She had half the plist including

implo

as null to my understanding, so I don't know if this justification holds much water.

Pretty sure Shirou was referring to my vote on Freedom I put down to nudge there, not my read on Implo

[Dunnstral]

Dunn

please look at 1877 about my townread of

beeboy

I don't like Implo's posts regarding an expectation to be townread.

why

i think this type of posting comes from town a lot

Does it? Because my memory says no

Explain 1877?

[Meuh]

I have not hated Meuh's most recent posting in terms of analyzing the replacements

she feels pretty relaxed and natural, but I also do not think this type of posting is especially hard to fake for her

I still mostly just don't think that the amount of effort that went into her case on implosion matches the kind of understated read in 1354 and 1355

like it's not clear to me why meuh's read on implosion suddenly requires a giant case wall

yes people asked her for reasons but when people ask me for reasons i usually engage with them like one or two reasons at a time, i don't start dissecting their ISO

so it feels kind of performative and it doesn't fit with my model of how a town player would be approaching a read like that

This is irritating cause I can see where it comes from but I also can't really ever reconcile this!!
The best justification I can provide I suppose is my general mentality around the time, but I can't say I remember it super vividly and even if I did, I'm not sure it actually helps you much
To me, diving into Implo's ISO gave me that sort of feeling I get when I'm convinced I'm unravelling the game and finding things out, I get really passionate and invested and it all comes into often long posts that are kind of showing the narrative forming in my head to others. I'd say the main issue is that this feeling wasn't as fully realized as previous times? The passion and the confidence still existed but to a lower extent and it's created this weird post that isn't fully fleshed out and isn't confident in the ways I have in the past while still creating this narrative in the way those other posts did. I'd compare it to this post viewtopic.php?p=13906472#p13906472 (I'm really proud of that one actually that post is great) or this one viewtopic.php?p=13763322#p13763322
I'd say my lack of strong scumreads kind of pushed me towards feeling more strongly even with a smaller amount of scumminess, because every scummy thing felt more significant, and felt more worth sharing in a game state paralyzed by a lack of scumreads.

[Meuh]

Dannflor
Aristeia was replaced by Random Nurse
Lazy Shirou
Brown Eyes
Alisae
implosion
beeboy

Kind of tempted to remove Beeboy from POE though

VOTE: Freedom

Also, you've been in the hot seat for a lot of the day, sorry if you've said this already but have you noticed any differences in the way people have wanted to vote, and or push you? Wolfy or towny?

Not sure exactly what you’re asking here? Can you reformulate

Sorry! I know my thoughts can come out a jumbled mess let me try again.

I think it's safe to say that you've probably been the most at risk for elim along with beeboy. If you're a villager, you have a much better view of the gamestate than us. Have you tried to differentiate the pushes against you? What ones seem in good faith vs the ones that don't?

You also townread beeboy, correct? Have you noticed anything off there as well?

This is a good question but I just don't have a real answer to it at this very moment
I want to come back to it when more mentally in the game cause it feels relevant

[Lazy Shirou]

I'm "unimpressed" with Meuh posts so far, nothing that makes me think she's town

She can argue it's for "nudging" but voting a slot she was previously townreading rather than one of the people in her PoE is just whacky to me

Feels like she's trying to explore wagon options

Happy keeping my vote there at the moment

This is actually a good point.

I don't think

Meuh

explicitly had

Implosion

is town in their original readslist when I first voted them, it was null.

Shirou's

recapitulation is not accurate.

I was talking about Meuh's most recent vote "Freedom" (previously Merlyn) which Meuh had expressed positive feelings for.

Your recapitulation of my recapitulation isn't accurate.

[Lazy Shirou]

I could vote Alisae

[Lazy Shirou]

I'm not feeling anything in particular out of the last pages aside from what I already feel about slots

between Alisae and Meuh, which I'm starting to settle as my voting pool today, I think Ali may have higher odds of flipping scum but I'm also not good at reading Ali

[Lazy Shirou]

/shrug

I would explain but others have already mostly commented what I wanted to so whatever for now.

VOTE: Alisae

[Lazy Shirou]

Likely not relevant but I've never seen a game where Taly was so active though, that weirds me out a bit

[Taly]

false, look at SUPP 2019 (I think it is)

I think I had almost 1000 posts by the end of it

and ive flaked on hyperpost games before, wasnt long ago relative to me returning from hiatus

[Taly]

i also posted frequently in Merchant's Daughter if memory serves

and i had times of high activity in Slaughter Hour app.php/activity_overview/87782 (I reached 1K posts here)

Mind you, I was town in all these games, I have never hyperposted as scum to my memory

like, my activity is the least weird thing about me in this game

you're correct

shirou

that this is a lot even for me

but you know

mania

i am legit on medication for a reason nowadays.

please dont make me fish all these games

[Taly]

like if anyone wants to meta me

im never scum here, or ive drastically upped my activity as scum

so thats the appropriate angle in this situation

[Lazy Shirou]

it was just a passing thought taly, although i feel better there's some precedence to it apparently

[Taly]

its a relatively recent behavior given my joindate

[Lazy Shirou]

yeah, usually people either start as a hyperposter or go from hyperposter to more laid back (Alisae hello?)

i think this is the first time i'm witnessing someone that used to have an average/above-average amount of activity becoming a hyperposter

it's interesting

[Bingle]

HI MY NAME IS NOT MAFIA AND I'M HERE TO REVIEW THE SHIT OUT OF THIS GAME!

[Dannflor]

hype