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The part that sticks with me is that this strategy would be completely suicidal for Scum!Comical.When there's trouble, you call DW.
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I'm fine with letting comical cook for a bit.-
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Too much scotch.In post 1400, DeltaWave wrote: The part that sticks with me is that this strategy would be completely suicidal for Scum!Comical.-
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I don't necessarily think it's Lap/PoP when I really think about it, too on the nose. It's Lap scum, and PoP got triggered as town here. Lap with 1 of the Purple tier is probably more likely, but I lean town on almost all 4 of the slots, but I also can tell they're fully capable of being scum here.
Top tier is pretty good. I like the way Lucca engages. If they're scum, they'll have to mess up tremendously for me to be able to see it, so like I would put Lucca in a tier in between the two top ones if I wanted to, but it's fine. I've liked the questions they've asked.-
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DeltaWave she/her/hersMafia Scumshe/her/hers
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With one scum down it's hard to think that scum would suicide bomb themselves like this. That's what I can't get over.In post 1402, Prince of Paterson wrote:
Too much scotch.In post 1400, DeltaWave wrote: The part that sticks with me is that this strategy would be completely suicidal for Scum!Comical.When there's trouble, you call DW.
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you think i fake claim protective as town and let me good buddy Naerys die with a town gambit?
Lap/PoP is really too on the nose for me. Maybe Gypyx and the team work line is fake and there to discredit me off of Lap.
Delta/Hu Tao probably sweeps this game in a scenario where Dragon did us dirty with the setup like that, but i can see Delta trying to figure out. They're playing it well if scum.
PoP white knighting Lap doesn't make too much sense. Good for them if they are, I just don't see it.
VOTE: Lap
I tried to help you fade me, PoP, but uhm...i don't think you're doing a good enough job convincing others.-
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You overcooked, unfortunately. Lap is town.In post 1405, Comical wrote: you think i fake claim protective as town and let me good buddy Naerys die with a town gambit?
Lap/PoP is really too on the nose for me. Maybe Gypyx and the team work line is fake and there to discredit me off of Lap.
Delta/Hu Tao probably sweeps this game in a scenario where Dragon did us dirty with the setup like that, but i can see Delta trying to figure out. They're playing it well if scum.
PoP white knighting Lap doesn't make too much sense. Good for them if they are, I just don't see it.
VOTE: Lap
I tried to help you fade me, PoP, but uhm...i don't think you're doing a good enough job convincing others.-
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DeltaWave she/her/hersMafia Scumshe/her/hers
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I'm going to wait for Lap's rebuttal before I solidify my thoughts on this.When there's trouble, you call DW.
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VOTE: Enchant
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These posts by Margot make a lot of sense with a Lap/Gypyx scum team.
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so you think there's 2 doctors in this game?In post 1406, Hu Tao wrote:
You overcooked, unfortunately. Lap is town.In post 1405, Comical wrote: you think i fake claim protective as town and let me good buddy Naerys die with a town gambit?
Lap/PoP is really too on the nose for me. Maybe Gypyx and the team work line is fake and there to discredit me off of Lap.
Delta/Hu Tao probably sweeps this game in a scenario where Dragon did us dirty with the setup like that, but i can see Delta trying to figure out. They're playing it well if scum.
PoP white knighting Lap doesn't make too much sense. Good for them if they are, I just don't see it.
VOTE: Lap
I tried to help you fade me, PoP, but uhm...i don't think you're doing a good enough job convincing others.-
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this does not fit with their 3-shot doc claim.In post 796, Laplacian wrote: Also, setup speculation since DE70 was has past games in his sig.
His 2 gamesleaned towards lots of weaker roles, with lots of use or time restrictions. This matches maf's 1 shot jug, so I'd expect them to have 1 more PR waiting. Rolecop could make sense with the 4+ town PRs I'm assuming.
We definitely have a bodyguard or doc because of the jug.From the two one-shot roles, this game fits the weaker roles meta. I'd guess 1 more solid role or 2 weak ones, probably including a limited investigator either way.-
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If he's scum then he went for too much of a gambit and ended up in a corner, and is just overconfident and thinks he can talk his way out of it.In post 1404, DeltaWave wrote:
With one scum down it's hard to think that scum would suicide bomb themselves like this. That's what I can't get over.In post 1402, Prince of Paterson wrote:
Too much scotch.In post 1400, DeltaWave wrote: The part that sticks with me is that this strategy would be completely suicidal for Scum!Comical.
If he's town then he's fakeclaiming because he does scumread Lap and is also going for too much of a gambit, and is overconfident and thinks he can talk his way out of it.
Either way, if Lap flips town, tomorrow he will say "Oops, sorry, I fakeclaimed to push out a scumread, but I'm still town and here's who we should push next:". And the worst part is that people will listen. There's not any way to tell whether he's doing that as town or as scum.
That's why we have to lim him today. If he's at E-1 and is town and still decides not to retract his claim, then that's on him. If he gets flipped and he's actually somehow a Doctor, then Lap is caught scum and we got a 1 for 1 while covering ourselves from every other possible scenario. More likely I think is that he just flips scum.-
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Lap and I could target each other the first 3 nights in the game, and we become unkillable without use of juggernaut.
with Juggernaut dead, there would be nothing else stopping that potential.-
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No, I think you're scum.In post 1405, Comical wrote: you think i fake claim protective as town and let me good buddy Naerys die with a town gambit?-
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I can't even talk this group into limming Lap, and you think i could talk em into not limming me in that scenario.
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well you wrongIn post 1414, Prince of Paterson wrote:
No, I think you're scum.In post 1405, Comical wrote: you think i fake claim protective as town and let me good buddy Naerys die with a town gambit?-
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I think that you think you could.In post 1415, Comical wrote: I can't even talk this group into limming Lap, and you think i could talk em into not limming me in that scenario.
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Alright, I don't think this is helpful anymore, I'm done responding for now. I've already engaged a lot more than I typically like to. My vote isn't moving.-
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i am full claiming zero retractions to my role.
i will flip Town Doctor on my flip.
PoP full of it because they're not considering Lap doing that same thing as town, except the difference is Lap has already setup their defense in "Dragon has put 2 doctors in the game before!"
whereas I have already said I'm retiring this account if I am wrong on LapScum.
I am not scum.-
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if Lap is town, I will have my vote on me the rest of the game.
I will still give my reads and analysis, and will hammer near deadline if I have to, but if I am wrong on Lap, which I really do not believe I am, that is what I offer.
Naerys will automatically live through the next day no matter what, so you'll have a conf town there too. If somehow Naerys did die, then insta fade me.
It's absolutely dumb af to play the way I did this day when Enchant was right there on the chopping block and I could have hammered from the get go.
I'd have gotten far less heat for hammering like that. I do that almost every game anyways.-
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Please. The 6 of us are who needs to vote for Lap here. I beg you to give me this one day to earn your trust. There is not a 3-shot Doc and a Doctor in this game. Lap is already defending themselves for if I get faded today with the "oh dragon's put 2 doctors in a game before!"-
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I'm not defending myself, I'm searching for reason youIn post 1421, Comical wrote: @Delta
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Please. The 6 of us are who needs to vote for Lap here. I beg you to give me this one day to earn your trust. There is not a 3-shot Doc and a Doctor in this game. Lap is already defending themselves for if I get faded today with the "oh dragon's put 2 doctors in a game before!"aren'tscum because I town read both of your past slots and your play makes no fucking sense as a scum gambit. But you're shooting youself in the foot there by assuming in there's two goons instead of a more powerful scum team that, again, matches dragon's past games-
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Because I was the protective that was listed before that ffs. You're the one with the anomalous claimIn post 1411, Comical wrote:
this does not fit with their 3-shot doc claim.In post 796, Laplacian wrote: Also, setup speculation since DE70 was has past games in his sig.
His 2 gamesleaned towards lots of weaker roles, with lots of use or time restrictions. This matches maf's 1 shot jug, so I'd expect them to have 1 more PR waiting. Rolecop could make sense with the 4+ town PRs I'm assuming.
We definitely have a bodyguard or doc because of the jug.From the two one-shot roles, this game fits the weaker roles meta. I'd guess 1 more solid role or 2 weak ones, probably including a limited investigator either way.-
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Inclined to agree with HT. Conical and I reread with updated priors, bayesian style. If this really is 1v1 and not 2 docs, we've got time to resolve it
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