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[outoforder]

We flip whoever we think is the best, were still like half way through D1 only lol ^^

[outoforder]

respect the million days D1 Oats

[Vivax]

We flip whoever we think is the best, were still like half way through D1 only lol ^^

That host interaction when Dann said everyone on the page was town though.

Nono

I guess I‘m having fun though, at least I don‘t have the cia recording me through my 4k monitor.

[outoforder]

I dont think it means anything outside TL, they tend to do stupid things like that.

[DarthPunk]

The main thing I'm bothered about by Luca is that he hasn't really pushed anything himself and doesn't have any strong scum reads outside of the consensus Roden

into...

okay that's two other people beside DP who said my case on DP is bad

I will sleep on it and reconsider

as a side note I don't really vibe with the Luca case overall, I feel like it largely comes down to him not being as present and being more calm than the average player here

into, lets vote for Naerys.

Guy is mafia. Clearly.

Possible town explanation is that he also actively counters the majority’s thinking, maybe unconsciously.

Otherwise it‘s like he described the current concerns about Luca in en earlier post and then decided to defend him instead while dismissing said former arguments.

I though Luca to be townie earlier on for his calm demeanor as well but that changed when I looked at how he isolated Roden according to thread sentiment and TR a lot of players.

The complacency about not having formed a clear TR on Dunn, Hu and Naerys sticks out as opportunistic. It‘s like the post communicated ‚hey it‘s okay I think everyone suspecting Roden can be town. Let‘s do it‘

Given the overall contributions I‘d prefer to prioritize a Luca lim first, but I am open to Dann in case the majority requires it (which is to say I‘d hammer if you want to do that first).

Absolutely not, how are we supposed to play like this when Dann just comes into the thread with seemingly100% confident reads for spurious reasons, then flip-flops on his reads, is not able to be held accountable for his thoughts, or perspectives changing from literally one extreme to the other, and then, without fail ignores the backlash by disappearing from the thread to once again not be held accountable.

People seem to treat him like he is a good player, so then I need to hold him to account as a good player.

[DarthPunk]

Spoiler:

This is IML. As soon as a majority is reached, the lunch is served. Drumming for quick votes is more mafia indicative than town indicative. We don‘t have enough information.

Consider this a FoS on Dannflor.

I'm actually thinking now, contrary to before, that this might be a mafia post. I mean the theory behind this is legit, but we are playing on a site where RVS is pretty common and Vivax knows it for sure. There is simply no reason to say this, especially FoS anyone for a RV.

[...]
In this instance

I can see Outoforder having that certain abrasiveness and pushing notions I mostly can't find myself agreeing with

so he's the person who takes the heat while his team tries to appear reasonable. Main point that makes me vote him is how he approached gob which wasn't even a real read, he just said mafia wouldn't use such terrible reasoning.
[...]

This is simply what happens in every single game when i am town. Yet Vivax somehow deduces this as a scum tell for me. Note that he doesn't even think gob is mafia.

[...]

We differ a lot in how we approach gob. You tend to just take people playing in a scummy manner at face value while to me he looks just like a player who has fun being contrarian and has zero fear of dying

while annoying the hell out of people who take the game extremely seriously. In that way, I prefer to just treat him as a little thorn in the side who draws too much attention for the game's good (no offense though, I find it amusing).
[...]

I specifically find it suspicious from Oats though that he treated gob in that exceedingly serious manner while I did in a different one as described above

. I mean sure, he doesn't make sense but if he's town that's a main priority for scum to push. I don't know his alignment but I could see him being town shark bait. He's not even triyng to be scummy on purpose, he's just... Derp?

Made the post a clickable spoiler since i assume that was the intent

First underline, that's

exactly how i did and have treated gob

, i am scummy.
Second underline, Oats did the opposite, he is scummy.
What is scummy? Is every singe way you treat gob scummy or what?
There is simply no reason to assume Oats has done anything out of his town range anyways. Vivax should also know that.

Oats mostly from his abrasiveness and the whole stuff I already explained surrounding the way he handled gob who I saw as lunch bait at the time.
You because of the interaction with Ninja that I explained. Would have expected more pushback from you or let's call it OMGUS if you will.
OOO similarly to Oats because of his initial bad vibe I got.

Vivax just described how DP would act as mafia and turned the whole thing around so that

that

would look town and

this doesn't

.
Similarly Vivax just described exactly how me and Oats appear as town, rather than as mafia. Sure,

both of us could probably act like that as mafia

but there is simply no reaso nto believe either of us is mafia

because

of that.

DP what's your excuse of not commenting on this post?
Same goes for Grack.

What did you want me to say?

I noted it for later and was more interested in something else that I was filter diving at the time.

I am sorry but for both you and Grack i think this should have been the most interesting thing 2024, for mine and Vivax' alignment, so don't bother if i have reservations against you because of it.

Yeah maybe I just don't get it, there were things that I agree with but I really didn't agree with your conclusion that Vivax was mafia so meh.

[outoforder]

What's your opinion on grack?

[outoforder]

we can do dann tomorrow

[Vivax]

I dont think it means anything outside TL, they tend to do stupid things like that.

Offtopic:

Yeah like post p*rn of people you know, or spy on you through electronic devices that you didn‘t even know could record you.

At least if you fuck around you will find out, *points at self*
They do have a twisted sense of humour and lots of powder.

Doesn‘t surprise me that it seems unavoidable to have a future point that spells big badaboom.

For legal reasons this is a joke.

I don‘t mind the prospect of Orwellian total transparency, as long as it‘s official and not used selectively and secretly.

But come on, a stern talk should precede every gun, metaphorical or not.

[outoforder]

Vivax, i mean, other forums dont take it too seriously, i have seen similar things in many places. It doesnt mean anything towards Dann's affiliation.
Like i have been in a game where a host replaced someone with a guy i fucking night killed 2 hours ago. It's just unreal lol ^_^

[DarthPunk]

What's your opinion on grack?

I have read the thread properly until page 33. I skimmed a bit yesterday and I have been interacting with the recent stuff. Based on that being my grasp of the game I liked several of his early posts where he was reading closely while catching up and he had transparent thoughts behind his questions and observations. I wish he did more with them. But he looked town to me.

[DarthPunk]

I am just going to stop posting until I have caught up with the thread. I am really not used to not having a grasp on the game.

[outoforder]

Im actually pretty sure i cant be around tomorrow unless a couple of hours in my evening.
I gotta drive my better half to work in about 3 hrs, and gotta be at work in about 7 hrs.....

[Vivax]

Vivax, i mean, other forums dont take it too seriously, i have seen similar things in many places. It doesnt mean anything towards Dann's affiliation.
Like i have been in a game where a host replaced someone with a guy i fucking night killed 2 hours ago. It's just unreal lol ^_^

Where we play, lots may get replaced.
I didn‘t realize we were so ambitious and often even abusive on TL until I started playing elsewhere.

Step on a lego ****** as an example.
Save for Corazon/BH/Tunkeg (oh boy who was he) . We always were forgiving though. No time for grudges. Apologies anyway, I‘m a bit inebriated in my new ‚home‘, which I misspelled when it‘s a hole

[Oatsmaster]

Vivax, i mean, other forums dont take it too seriously, i have seen similar things in many places. It doesnt mean anything towards Dann's affiliation.
Like i have been in a game where a host replaced someone with a guy i fucking night killed 2 hours ago. It's just unreal lol ^_^

That’s actually insanely funny ngl

[Vivax]

I am just going to stop posting until I have caught up with the thread. I am really not used to not having a grasp on the game.

I think if you trust me and rayn your grasp is good enough.

We can add Oats to the mix if he stops being so rude, so we can add Ninja to the mix if she wants to be around.

I just struggle a bit when her intent is to be so artsy, but I understand the motivation in the current climate. It is a good-oriented one.

[Vivax]

Vivax, i mean, other forums dont take it too seriously, i have seen similar things in many places. It doesnt mean anything towards Dann's affiliation.
Like i have been in a game where a host replaced someone with a guy i fucking night killed 2 hours ago. It's just unreal lol ^_^

That’s actually insanely funny ngl

I have been in a game where batman fucking warped in and out to oogi it.

[Oatsmaster]

I am just going to stop posting until I have caught up with the thread. I am really not used to not having a grasp on the game.

I think if you trust me and rayn your grasp is good enough.

We can add Oats to the mix if he stops being so rude, so we can add Ninja to the mix if she wants to be around.

I just struggle a bit when her intent is to be so artsy, but I understand the motivation in the current climate. It is a good-oriented one.

Wow rude

[Oatsmaster]

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[DarthPunk]

I am just going to stop posting until I have caught up with the thread. I am really not used to not having a grasp on the game.

I think if you trust me and rayn your grasp is good enough.

We can add Oats to the mix if he stops being so rude, so we can add Ninja to the mix if she wants to be around.

I just struggle a bit when her intent is to be so artsy, but I understand the motivation in the current climate. It is a good-oriented one.

To be clear, I trust rayn more than you right now. Because I don't think rayn would do this whole 2 man town circle schtick as maf but I KNOW you would pocket rayn as maf.

And I haven't read the part of the thread where apparently rayn thinks you are confirmed town yet, so lets see if I agree

[DarthPunk]

Im actually pretty sure i cant be around tomorrow unless a couple of hours in my evening.
I gotta drive my better half to work in about 3 hrs, and gotta be at work in about 7 hrs.....

Thats cool, we have a long day. Soooo town favoured, so we should use it.

[DarthPunk]

Im gonna say that unless Ninja is portraying a character that isnt real in which case I think shed be playing more mafia, shes town.
I dont think it makes much sense to say the things shes said if she were mafia. especially the stuff regarding the game getting too personal.

I disagree with this assessment, I have used tricks like that in the past.

[DarthPunk]

Im gonna say that unless Ninja is portraying a character that isnt real in which case I think shed be playing more mafia, shes town.
I dont think it makes much sense to say the things shes said if she were mafia. especially the stuff regarding the game getting too personal.

Yeah she's probably town. She seems very self-aware of herself but when she makes posts she makes mistakes, like very obvious mistakes that contradict with what she has said before.
For instance, she puts Dunnstral in scum column in her list post, then posts reasons why he is mafia and says he is null.

I find it very unlike that someone who seems so self-aware (even if you read her as scum this is true so it would apply also if she's town) gives people ammunition like this to attack her. As mafia i would say with 90% certainty she would be very careful and definitely more likely to keep her story straight.

This is a better reason for Ninja to be town, but i still don't think it satisfies me.

[outoforder]

Im actually pretty sure i cant be around tomorrow unless a couple of hours in my evening.
I gotta drive my better half to work in about 3 hrs, and gotta be at work in about 7 hrs.....

Thats cool, we have a long day. Soooo town favoured, so we should use it.

stll here maybe 20 mins

[Oatsmaster]

Im gonna say that unless Ninja is portraying a character that isnt real in which case I think shed be playing more mafia, shes town.
I dont think it makes much sense to say the things shes said if she were mafia. especially the stuff regarding the game getting too personal.

I disagree with this assessment, I have used tricks like that in the past.

Yes but you are not ninja