Open 899 - The Pizza Kids Coalition [Game Over]
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happy new year's!In post 18, implosion wrote: Happy new year everyone-
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btw, i just realised my browser messes up the font that prism uses for the vcs-
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tbh i'm scared of scum distancing in this setup.-
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elements maybe town for not focusing so much on forming a townblock.-
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ngl best thing about this setup is townhunting is easier for me.-
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i would say that since t3 is a consensus tr at this point, i don't see scum!you benefiting much for doing something that implo has done too and was sred forIn post 56, Elements wrote:
half my posts are about towning T3?In post 54, Appearance wrote: elements maybe town for not focusing so much on forming a townblock.-
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for now, i'm ok with t3 tho he hasn't done too much so might be worth it later to reaccess reads on him.In post 65, Elements wrote:
do you have any concerns about t3 being so town read so early?In post 63, Appearance wrote:
i would say that since t3 is a consensus tr at this point, i don't see scum!you benefiting much for doing something that implo has done too and was sred forIn post 56, Elements wrote:
half my posts are about towning T3?In post 54, Appearance wrote: elements maybe town for not focusing so much on forming a townblock.-
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more of a general fear based a quick read through of the last coalition game i found.In post 68, DeasVail wrote:
this was actually something I was thinking too.In post 53, Appearance wrote: tbh i'm scared of scum distancing in this setup.
Was it klick/dragoneater that pinged you as a potential distance as well, or more of a general fear?
in that, this setup encourages distancing as a scum tactic.
tho klick/dragon did add to my worries of potential distancing.-
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actually, on rereading klick/dragon maybe really wasn't that distance-y.
and on catching up, i think ydra seems ok.-
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i still feel good enough about him to keep him in the coalitionIn post 142, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Appearance, what's your read on T3?-
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it's going to sound dumb but it's mostly vibes.In post 145, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Okay, why?
he doesn't done that much so i could be wrong for sure.-
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dragon might actually be town here now that i think about it.
scum wouldn't be this upset about having to form trs.-
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i think i've explained most of my reads in the coalition minus ydra.In post 206, DragonEater70 wrote: Appearance can you talk to me about your reads a bit
Just in general, why do you TR the people in your coal and who do you think is scummy
re: ydra, it's more so the way that she's been posting. there's a level of genuineness there and also, she seems to be trying to poke.
idk. mainly that sort of mindset usually makes me think of town.-
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yeah.In post 287, DragonEater70 wrote: Also are you an alt? Somebody mentioned you were an alt
i'm a secret alt.-
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oh.
the first part's hard since t3 is just vibes.
you and elements is for content.
you, because you were discontent with tring people, elements for not exclusively concerned with forming a coalition earlier.
ydra is for tone.
for the second part, idk. i can't read implo/dv well tbh.
klick could be town, i guess? but idk.
kyouko, i think could also be town. her analysis seems solid.-
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technically, yes.In post 291, DragonEater70 wrote: So if I get it correctly you have no scumreads at all?
tho i'm going to reread implo and dv's isos later today.
since if klick/kyouko are town, then those two will be in the poe by default.
of course i could be wrong on t3.-
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btw, i just realised it's elements bday (or maybe my timezone is early).
just in case, happy bday, elements!-
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sure.In post 323, DragonEater70 wrote: @Appearance, considering that right now the most viable colaition builds seem to be something along the lines of Dragon/VD/Klick + 2 out of {Elements, Ydrasse, Appearance}*, would you endeavor to read both Klick and VD and tell me what do you think about adding them to the coalition?
i ended up hiking yesterday so i'll read dv's iso today.-
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klick, i think seems fine.
i'm going to read that tm game that klick linked in more detail later but it looks like dv was scum there.
would prob be good to compare his iso here to his iso there.-
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admittedly tho, if both dv and klick is town, then i'm prob misreading t3/kyouko, leaning t3.-
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which means that my current coalition could be wrong in that world.-
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the reason why i'm leaning t3 is moreso my reason for the initial tr not being based in content/tone but rather just vibes.
and i've been wrong on vibes before.-
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klick, dragon, elements, kyouko, ydra
the reason being that t3 has pretty much ended up being nulltown for me now and it's no really worth keeping him in the coalition anymore-
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i'm going to be busy today
will post more later
sorry-
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what are ur reads then?In post 372, T3 wrote: I've reread through the game but I really don't have much to say-
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ugh.
i'm so tempted to put dv in my coalition.
i think i'd go with ydra's but with her swapped with me.
HURT: kyouko
HEAL: dv-
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so my current coalition would be elements, dragon, ydra, klick, dv.-
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implo, if dragon is scum, why is he in your coalition?In post 384, implosion wrote: Still kinda demotivated. Partially for RL reasons but mostly in game.
There's a world where 361 is dragon + one of DV/Klick as scum and Dragon sees an excuse to try to replace the double-scum coalition that's been building with a single-scum coalition. That would also mirror my play in the scum coalition game I mentioned. In that sense that when the game was going well, I went a bit out of my way to try to get the other scum off of the coalition (when that plan failed, I had to bus them on the first lim).
I think if that is the case, it's not really actionable now (aside from just keeping the original coalition Dragon suggested rather than switching). Or rather it's not like, something that's going to make me want to lim one of those people if the coalition fails, more of a "if the game gets to final 5 and dragon + either klick or DV are alive, remember to look back at this".
fmpov a lot of all the current speculation coming from like klick and dragon (especially klick) is kind of blasé because yeah, I agree with the analysis that if I'm town the coalition is likely to fail and beyond that there's not really much to say >_>. I don't think there are any politically feasible coalitions that are likely to succeed right now. That said I am waning on my specific feeling of Dragon being scum. While 361 makes a lot of sense in the specific case I mentioned, outside of that it's kind of a thing that I wouldn't expect scum to do in the gamestate, it's a bit of a rocking-the-boat action to remove those two from the coalition and I think Dragon is probably mostly happy to ride the wave of the gamestate if he's scum, modulo needing to possibly dodge a double scum coalition.
if u are town, wouldn't u be better off with a coalition without dragon?-
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on a reread tho, it looks like u aren't really sring dragon so ignore my previous post.-
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tho, i legit have no idea why u've brought up ur ideal coalition but has actually voted for anybody in there minus elements.-
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i kinda feel like at this point, even demotivated town would want to get a coalition out there.-
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it could end up being wrong, sure, but it's better than having no coalition and nothing to work with.-
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i mean actually, we do have something to work with.-
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as in the people who were against making a coalition-
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tho really, with a bit more than 1 and a half days left, i feel everybody should at least have a coalition down
p-edit: this is more of a general thought i have-
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btw, t3, what is ur ideal coalition?
p-edit: implo seemed pretty on the fence so i wasn't sure if he was actually sring u or preparing to.-
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also, i doubt scum!implo votes for any of the coalitions rn.-
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because he srs u presumably and thinks one of klick/dv is scum with u-
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it is of note tho that neither elements nor dv have voted on a coalition despite being in multiple proposals-
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ngl i'm starting to worry that scum's plan is not to get into a coalition but to prevent us from forming one.
p-edit: implo's subtlely moving down the 'dragon is scum if coalition fails' path despite him previously sring me/dv and tring u. his latest posts seem to be preparing for if a coalition fails, in which case he can blame on u being scum.
fmpov town!implo puts aside his pride and votes for a coalition, instead of what he's been doing rn-
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tbh that i should check if implo is usually this prideful-
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because it doesn't seem like he's been playing to make any compromises-
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even when they can either let us win d1 or at least provide us good info-
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do u think that implo is distancing?In post 413, DragonEater70 wrote: Yeah okay
I see what you mean
I think the solve is just implo/Klick or implo/DV
last time implo ended up bussing std and carrying the scumteam to a win.-
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in case, u mentioned it and i glossed over it.-
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