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Datisi it/heDrawn from Memoryit/he
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with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2024-03-04 01:00:00).
Last edited by Datisi on Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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when i read this i just think that the second and third paragraph do all the explaining that is asserted to be impossible in the first.In post 1318, Klick wrote:
I don't think Naerys' lack of enjoyment is explainable from a scum perspectiveIn post 1314, Psyche wrote: i completely agree naerys is sincerely not enjoying the game; this could explain why her play doesn't currently fit w her supposed scum meta. but when i'm not enjoying a game as scum, withdrawing while maintaining the bare minimum of activity is usually the least i can do for my teammates
She's salty because she thinks Hu is getting away with murder and she's spiting the town for it by trying to implode
If she's scum she was responding to a standard amount of pressure that she would be prepared to face as scum
shethinksshe has a neat and credible way to face the pressure on her and justify her lurking — she thinks this anger around hu tao looks legit and that its outsized scale makes the anger look more credible
but i don't think the performance has been convincing, particularly in the last couple days of activity she's exhibitedYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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'Lurking' is an ambiguous term and not really what I feel accurately describes Naerys' play at the minuteIn post 1320, Psyche wrote: klick how do you generally distinguish between town lurking and scum lurking?
i'll give that it's not my strong suit; this naeyrs scumread is my best effort at it. is your approach to examine meta?
It's all contextual. You can call it meta, but most of my reads generally come from making an overall read on a player as a person and making judgements based on that
If someone is just 'lurking' that usually doesn't mean much of anything to me in regards to alignment - people have different reasons for lower activity all the time
It's about identifying why they are lurking, whether it has anything to do with what colour role PM they got, etc-
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w all do respect i feel like that's a non answer
of course someone trying to sort between scum lurking and town lurking doesn't think it means much about alignment wo consideration of applicable context;
the question would be meaninglessYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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I don't think scum!Naerys looks at what happened at the time of her implosion and thinks her emotional outburst is 'a neat and credible way to face the pressure on her'In post 1326, Psyche wrote:
when i read this i just think that the second and third paragraph do all the explaining that is asserted to be impossible in the first.In post 1318, Klick wrote:
I don't think Naerys' lack of enjoyment is explainable from a scum perspectiveIn post 1314, Psyche wrote: i completely agree naerys is sincerely not enjoying the game; this could explain why her play doesn't currently fit w her supposed scum meta. but when i'm not enjoying a game as scum, withdrawing while maintaining the bare minimum of activity is usually the least i can do for my teammates
She's salty because she thinks Hu is getting away with murder and she's spiting the town for it by trying to implode
If she's scum she was responding to a standard amount of pressure that she would be prepared to face as scum
shethinksshe has a neat and credible way to face the pressure on her and justify her lurking — she thinks this anger around hu tao looks legit and that its outsized scale makes the anger look more credible
but i don't think the performance has been convincing, particularly in the last couple days of activity she's exhibited
If she were thinking that rationally in the first place she'd have opted for a tactic that is anywhere within her standard range-
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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anyway whatever klick's not joining the naeyrs wagon got it
i'll see who else is shoppingYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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Then I guess I'm not getting the point of your questionIn post 1328, Psyche wrote: w all do respect i feel like that's a non answer
of course someone trying to sort between scum lurking and town lurking doesn't think it means much about alignment wo consideration of applicable context;
the question would be meaningless
Or my answer is 'I don't distinguish between town lurking and scum lurking'-
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i dont think that's true
must be be a miscommunicationYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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It doesn't make a lot of sense to me tbh the timing feels off as well.In post 1307, KayJayQueue wrote:
So with that, now that you feel Ari is leaning town, what do you think about her SvS theory about naerys and hu? I’d like to hear your opinion.In post 1290, Political Clout wrote:
that's all it takes. like a bolt from the heavens really.In post 1289, KayJayQueue wrote:Well, I guess it just didn’t register to me then. Because last I remember you were pretty adamant on Aristeia and then the next big thing was the NAS joke issue so I guess I didn’t realize klick was a problem for you. Speaking of, why is Ari suddenly town for you? Just her interaction with Titus earlier?
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I think ari might be scum. She is pushing the Naerys/me narrative because she knows Naerys is gonna flip scum. And knows that they can't nk me because of my self vote to e-1 they know on VT. So only way to get rid of me is to tie me to Naerys-
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Or maybe I'm over cooking right now-
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I'm * not on-
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Well Naerys finally unvoted herself and I’m not too sure after all this discussion that she’s scum. But I don’t particularly think I want to vote PC either, even though I don’t agree with their reads. I don’t know who else to vote for right now because I also got over my weird feeling about you.In post 1330, Psyche wrote: anyway whatever klick's not joining the naeyrs wagon got it
i'll see who else is shopping-
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think dann is town. kind of curious why hu tao keeps him in her poolYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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this maybe isn't grounded enough for me. suggests ariscum has a very strong sense of agency wrt her power to decide who is limmed.In post 1335, Hu Tao wrote: I think ari might be scum. She is pushing the Naerys/me narrative because she knows Naerys is gonna flip scum. And knows that they can't nk me because of my self vote to e-1 they know on VT. So only way to get rid of me is to tie me to NaerysYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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He's good as scum. Can look townyIn post 1339, Psyche wrote: think dann is town. kind of curious why hu tao keeps him in her pool-
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i don't think this is a narrative or agenda ari is pushingIn post 1335, Hu Tao wrote: I think ari might be scum. She is pushing the Naerys/me narrative because she knows Naerys is gonna flip scum. And knows that they can't nk me because of my self vote to e-1 they know on VT. So only way to get rid of me is to tie me to Naerys
she admitted it was probably statistically unlikely and weak, it reads like her trying to make sense of naerys' actions-
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ughIn post 1341, Hu Tao wrote:
He's good as scum. Can look townyIn post 1339, Psyche wrote: think dann is town. kind of curious why hu tao keeps him in her pool-
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haha the crown is heavy ehIn post 1343, Dannflor wrote:
ughIn post 1341, Hu Tao wrote:
He's good as scum. Can look townyIn post 1339, Psyche wrote: think dann is town. kind of curious why hu tao keeps him in her poolYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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Naerys' blow-up this game just seems to be really obviously fueled by disdain for how poorly she thinks other players are playing in a way that only really makes sense if she knows they're wrong
Like Psyche, you're saying you think her emotional outburst is genuine. But to say Naerys is scum you have to assume stuff like this:
is just nonsense she's making up, thrown in amongst things that aren't nonsense at allIn post 502, Naerys wrote:
bcz scum has to keep up some appearances, if you´d remain confident after being so obviously "wrong" it´d be suspiciousIn post 497, Hu Tao wrote: Why would my confidence crumble if I'm scum and I successfully miseliminate you
so obviously your confidence will have to crumble even if for the spectators
It seems really clear that she comes on, posts rants about what's on her mind for a while, logs off for a couple of hours, then comes back and starts ranting about what's on her mind some more
It doesn't match with how she's feeling.-
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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keep getting this odd feeling reading klick's posts where she describes something naeyrs does that i find disingenuous, then adds a sentence like "It doesn't match with how she's feeling" and i have to like actively keep in mind that she's disagreeing w my readYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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Can you stop asuming stuff about whats going in my head? Thanks, good night-
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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502 is just gibberish to me
is impressive that you copped a read from it, if the read is accurateYou can't step in the same river twice.
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