Mini Normal 2329: complex. [game over!]

[KayJayQueue]

I feel like I care more about who the elimination

isn’t

so I may be adding to that problem.

[Datisi]

vote count 2.08

with 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2024-03-09 17:15:00).

yeet

NotAScum [3]:

Hu Tao, Aristeia, Titus

Political Clout [1]:

davesaz

Aristeia [1]:

Random Nurse

Dannflor [1]:

Political Clout

not voting [5]:

geraintm, KayJayQueue, NotAScum, Psyche, Dannflor

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[Dannflor]

dave feeling so sensitive is probably towny?

in which case im a little lost again

[Dannflor]

psyche you're not scum are you

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: political clout

Not a good vote.

you would be much more pleasant to play with if you actually engaged people instead of just repeating what you wanted over and over with little to no substantiation

Well this isn't fair I'd say I engaged a lot day 1 on my Naerys read, providing lots of reasons and proof from other games. And not only was it wrong, not many people listened anyway. So.. either way I agree what you said earlier. Day will move on when NAS is eliminated

[Hu Tao]

I'm on phone. Would prefer to be less abrasive but it would take too long to type that with one finger. Only morons or scum would scumread me.

I don't think Dave is scum either tbh. But not that strong of a read

[Hu Tao]

dave feeling so sensitive is probably towny?

in which case im a little lost again

NAS imo is scum. I think he has to be

[Aristeia]

ok Hu Tao

let's say you actually believe NAS is mafia

what's NAS's scum team doing right now

[Psyche]

I'm on phone. Would prefer to be less abrasive but it would take too long to type that with one finger. Only morons or scum would scumread me.

hah!

[Hu Tao]

Lots of people here have given me reasons to tr them for one reason or another. NAS is the lowest on that pole

[Hu Tao]

ok Hu Tao

let's say you actually believe NAS is mafia

what's NAS's scum team doing right now

What even is this question? You could say this for anyone not just NAS

[Dannflor]

Well this isn't fair I'd say I engaged a lot day 1 on my Naerys read, providing lots of reasons and proof from other games. And not only was it wrong, not many people listened anyway. So.. either way I agree what you said earlier. Day will move on when NAS is eliminated

i mean so far today you've just shouted over and over again for people to vote NAS and when i've tried to talk about other possibilities you've just said it's a bad vote or that you're town reading that slot without trying to explain your reasons or engage me on my reasons

[Dannflor]

What even is this question? You could say this for anyone not just NAS

no it's a valid question considering NAS is set to be the default elimination

[Dannflor]

like it's one of the things that has been bugging me

NAS is such low hanging fruit that I would assume most scum teams would be happy to bus, but then who is scum bussing?

[Psyche]

what i gave was a poe. im not really attached to my rationale for scumreading dave i gave earlier (i think i even already announced a shift?) and can't really recall if i ever definitively conveyed a clout scumread.

[Aristeia]

ok Hu Tao

let's say you actually believe NAS is mafia

what's NAS's scum team doing right now

What even is this question? You could say this for anyone not just NAS

it is a fairly simple question.

you are saying NAS must be mafia and you want to lead his elimination today. so tell me what you think his teammates are doing.

[Aristeia]

Well this isn't fair I'd say I engaged a lot day 1 on my Naerys read, providing lots of reasons and proof from other games. And not only was it wrong, not many people listened anyway. So.. either way I agree what you said earlier. Day will move on when NAS is eliminated

i mean so far today you've just shouted over and over again for people to vote NAS and when i've tried to talk about other possibilities you've just said it's a bad vote or that you're town reading that slot without trying to explain your reasons or engage me on my reasons

"not many people listened anyway"

"Naerys was eliminated on Day One"

[Hu Tao]

Okay listen to me again today. If I'm wrong I'll reevaluate tomorrow

[Titus]

I'm feeling a bit ill. Will try tonight.

[Aristeia]

Okay listen to me again today. If I'm wrong I'll reevaluate tomorrow

my point is you dont seem like you've even done the basic work of evaluating today

[Psyche]

aristeia seemed to scumlean gera earlier in the game but now seems to nullread. is this an accurate characterization? if so, what changed?

[Aristeia]

aristeia seemed to scumlean gera earlier in the game but now seems to nullread. is this an accurate characterization? if so, what changed?

why do you townread hu tao

[Hu Tao]

Okay listen to me again today. If I'm wrong I'll reevaluate tomorrow

my point is you dont seem like you've even done the basic work of evaluating today

You too

[Aristeia]

Okay listen to me again today. If I'm wrong I'll reevaluate tomorrow

my point is you dont seem like you've even done the basic work of evaluating today

You too

I'm not the one hardpushing the elimination

[Aristeia]

like a very simple and basic game state read is

"which wagon is likely to go through today"

the answer for nearly all of day two has been "NAS will be eliminated today"

so the next question is "what are the mafia doing to position themselves in the scenario that NAS dies today"

if he's mafia and scummy and not being particularly present, the easy play is to just bus him but where are the bussers?

everyone thinks Titus is a town roleblocker of sorts.

I know I'm town

Hu Tao is the one who decided NAS has to die - sure maybe there's some bus equity there but why wouldn't scum!tao just find a better target to eliminate.

Psyche jumped on and off and has wanted NAS to die from day one.

Dannflor has jumped on and off, I think if he's mafia he'd do a better job of coaching NAS than whatever this is.


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It's possible the scum team includes NAS and they decided not to bus but that would require some kind of counterwagon - there is none. or perhaps they think this wagon can't reach six votes because ____ is town and tunneled somewhere else. I struggle to see this evaluation because we've had six plausible votes on NAS for some time with Dannflor, Psyche, KJQ expressing some interest.

Perhaps they thought someone would do this kind of analysis but I don't see why they would take that gamble since nothing about this game screams "analysis"


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If NAS is town this is just a repeat of day one with a single wagon on town and a bunch of people solo voting things they don't really care about.

I also think if that's true then it's not the solo voters who are the mafia it's probly the people dictating game narrative and have about as much interest in evaluating whether we're on the right track as they do in eating spoiled cheescake.