Mini Normal 2329: complex. [game over!]

[Random Nurse]

ohh nas is bulletproof-

immune

. that just means he ignores bulletproofs when he NKs, right?

There's no way in hell all 3 Scum don't have that modifier.

[Random Nurse]

I was gonna ask that. I thought that meant he couldn't be vigged after n3? Confused.

No, my Bulletproof modifier will not work on him on N3. He becomes immune to it.

[Titus]

Sorry. Reality swamped me. Odd night roleblocker

[Aristeia]

NAS's role is pretty weak in context. even that part only kicks in N3+? lame

I think NAS's role makes it pretty unlikely that geraintm's role is real because it seems like a huge fu to the mafia if they have to wait till night three before they can kill the IC and then oops there was actually a doctor all along?

[Datisi]

vote count 3.01

with 8 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 3 ends in (expired on 2024-03-15 03:15:00).

yeet

not voting [8]:

Titus, Hu Tao,

Random Nurse

, Aristeia, geraintm, KayJayQueue, Psyche, Political Clout

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[Aristeia]

Night Two Informed
1s Gunsmith
?? Vig
Bulletproof Activated IC
Odd Night Roleblocker

feels like too much power for a mini normal

[Aristeia]

kay how does your role work?

like are you paired to a player pregame and then on night two you learn they are town

or is it like on night two the mod rands an alive player and tells you they are town out of all the town players

or like on night two you get a random result on a player in the game?

[KayJayQueue]

kay how does your role work?

like are you paired to a player pregame and then on night two you learn they are town

or is it like on night two the mod rands an alive player and tells you they are town out of all the town players

or like on night two you get a random result on a player in the game?

I’m not allowed to copy word for word right? I’ll just paraphrase it because I don’t want to break the rules. Basically, I was told I would be given info on the second night about some aspect of the game. The second part says I don’t have any active ability.

[KayJayQueue]

kay how does your role work?

like are you paired to a player pregame and then on night two you learn they are town

or is it like on night two the mod rands an alive player and tells you they are town out of all the town players

or like on night two you get a random result on a player in the game?

If you’re asking if it said which player I was going to get info on originally, it did not. If there was something going on behind the scenes to detail what info I was given, I was not aware of it.

[Aristeia]

Can you ask the moderator if any of these outcomes are possible as a resolution of your role?

On Night Two you learn that an already dead player is town.
On Night Two you learn that the claimed vigilante is town.
On Night Two you learn a player is mafia.

[KayJayQueue]

I just reread the rules and it says not to quote messages from mods…and I know it says I can paraphrase but I’m feeling uncomfortable about being questioned like this. Are you trying to get me to break the rules? I asked the mod the questions you asked me, no answer yet obviously but now I’m worried I’m making a mistake by giving the info? Sorry, I literally don’t know how this works.

[Aristeia]

I'm not trying to get you to break the rules I'm trying to gauge how powerful your claimed role is and whether it can exist in this game.

You're allowed to paraphrase or relay moderator answers about your role as long as you do it in a way that doesn't prove that the moderator said something to you by like copying it word for word.

relaying simple yes or no answers doesn't apply because it's just yes or no and it doesn't actually prove anything.

[KayJayQueue]

I'm not trying to get you to break the rules I'm trying to gauge how powerful your claimed role is and whether it can exist in this game.

You're allowed to paraphrase or relay moderator answers about your role as long as you do it in a way that doesn't prove that the moderator said something to you by like copying it word for word.

relaying simple yes or no answers doesn't apply because it's just yes or no and it doesn't actually prove anything.

Okay the answers I got were:
The player I find out info about is predetermined before the game starts.
1. Yes, that would be a possibility if that was my predetermined player.
2. Mod can’t give me the answer to this question.
3. No, because of how things are done during setup.

[Aristeia]

ok thanks

who do you think the mafia are?

[KayJayQueue]

ok thanks

who do you think the mafia are?

Well I know it’s not PC, RN is cleared, psych seems cleared as vig with no counterclaim, so can’t be them. So it has to be 2 of the remaining 4. I’ve obviously felt good about Hu this entire game (especially day 1) so I’d feel hit with a ton of bricks if it were Hu. But it has to be narrowed down to Titus, gera, you and Hu because nothing else would fit. If you’re asking me which 2, my past scum reads had been Titus and gera. I thought I was wrong about Titus with the early claim but now with everyone else claimed, it seems very possible that was a lie. It always struck me a bit odd how adamant the vig shot claim was from Titus but I guess I assumed such an early claim had to be legit. Not sure I believe it anymore.

[geraintm]

im boredd. too bored to stick to protocol
geraint's claim has to be fake, right?

i am so pissed that people have decided my claim is fake and are going to eliminate me for it.
your thinking is i as scum have picked out a 1 shot doc as my claim, instead of just sitting there and going for VT?
it is such a weird role, why would i make that up???

[geraintm]

gist is that i like to throw in a little limit-testing into my mafia play, and this time i crossed the limit

gera seemed already inevitable (and boring). i wanted to find the third scum in case the rest of yall couldn't. my guess was wrong, which is good to know for me at least (i'd be more insufferable today otherwise). could go into why i made my guess, but does it matter anymore?

yes, your logic of "there is one player who is clearly scum but i am not going to shoot them" has been very helpful

[geraintm]

gist is that i like to throw in a little limit-testing into my mafia play, and this time i crossed the limit

gera seemed already inevitable (and boring). i wanted to find the third scum in case the rest of yall couldn't. my guess was wrong, which is good to know for me at least (i'd be more insufferable today otherwise). could go into why i made my guess, but does it matter anymore?

and yes,i knew coming into today that i was going to be the person put under pressure first. i was hoping beyond hope someone would have checked me and cleared me by now but didnt happen.

so people instead think that even with a whole night to confer with my partner the best i could have come up with as a claim is 1 shot doc??

[geraintm]

i'm fine with gera dying today...

im not

[geraintm]

yeah gera sounds great. but who after gera?

probably Kay

i dont think anyone with experience would fake claim doctor

you seem to think time on site = experience

[geraintm]

uhh i'll stew on it

maybe setup spec. can we accept a world where it's just gera with the fake pr claim?

im going to be so mad when i flip

[Aristeia]

yeah gera sounds great. but who after gera?

probably Kay

i dont think anyone with experience would fake claim doctor

you seem to think time on site = experience

well no because you have the most time on site but I don't really think you're very experienced in terms of knowing what to fake claim to fit into this setup

[Aristeia]

gist is that i like to throw in a little limit-testing into my mafia play, and this time i crossed the limit

gera seemed already inevitable (and boring). i wanted to find the third scum in case the rest of yall couldn't. my guess was wrong, which is good to know for me at least (i'd be more insufferable today otherwise). could go into why i made my guess, but does it matter anymore?

yes, your logic of "there is one player who is clearly scum but i am not going to shoot them" has been very helpful

I don't really understand the sarcasm here - are you upset he didn't shoot you at night?

[Aristeia]

uhh i'll stew on it

maybe setup spec. can we accept a world where it's just gera with the fake pr claim?

im going to be so mad when i flip

ok who would you rather flip today instead?

[Aristeia]

yeah gera sounds great. but who after gera?

probably Kay

i dont think anyone with experience would fake claim doctor

for my sanity
let's talk about the hutao scum scenario
you used to scumread hutao -- where'd that go?

On play I think she's scummy but its hard to ignore the mech.