Open 906: AAAAAAHHHH I Ran out of Game Names!!! [Game Over]

[JacksonVirgo]

I’m done arguing to a wolf that he’s a wolf. I want town to come in and talk with me

[JacksonVirgo]

I want updated thoughts on fire in particular.

[Gimli]

I don’t think my reads matter. What will further elaborating on my scumread on Gimli do? Will I just continue to get condescended to and told I’m wrong by the same 2 people? What’s the point? To give more ammo to use against me that I’d need to defend against but then also be told I’m being too defensive? Like, if you’re scum, good job. But at what point is enough enough? Is it because I’m the only one engaging? You couldn’t get legs for Jake, purple, ming, Jupiter burnt out on his own, and now that Jackson isn’t gaining traction, will it just be right back to me? It doesn’t matter how much effort I put into my analysis because the players that aren’t really participating aren’t reading it anyway and the ones that are, are lying in wait to tear everything I say apart. Except for the one person who agrees with me but even that’s not allowed, because you have to attack the fact that we are townreading each other too. Give me one good reason to give you more of my time and effort. If the reason is so that I’m not mislimmed, at this point, it would be incredibly satisfying to get to watch those wanting me out on Day 2 when they have to humble themselves when they see I’m town. And I know if this happened, you’d still find a way to make my elimination my own fault. If you all can’t see that that’s what we’re moving towards, I don’t know what to tell you.

I wanted to understand why you were still pretty much unmoved with your scumread on me while simultaneously never directly talking about what any of my posts mean wrt my alignment. it feels like a pretty strong read with unsubstantiated reasoning and the discrepancy between them, I'll repeat, is alarming to me.

but if you don't want to expand on it, that's fine

[Gimli]

I don’t like Gimlis approach to this game. To put it simply it all feels like he wants to push a particular conclusion and builds a case around that instead of what town should be doing which is the exact opposite.

By extension to this I believe that his reasonings for things are so focused and not at all substantive. I called out why us knowing each other outside of the game changes which of the two of us is the evil, it shouldn’t it changes absolutely nothing yet he’s pretending it does. It’s all fluffed logic in order to push who he wants to push. That’s simply it. The end.

I think I explained it quite well, but you were insulted by it.

I agree with your other posts in terms of us having nothing to say to each other in this game anymore. I am pretty much locktowning you for your emotions, and I think I've been the towniest I could've possibly been in the game, given the poor position of my slot (which I'll argue again has nothing to do with how black was posting, as she was pretty towny herself). I don't believe in KJQ's latest post, I think again she resorts to AtE way too much and in ways that are completely baffling to me, and I find it amazingly hypocritical from both of you how you get to maintain your unmovable scumreads on my slot - no matter what I do - while reacting so emotionally to the appearance that other people are doing that (to KJQ).

I guess that's another condescending looking post in your direction. I'm sorry, I just rub people the wrong way.

[JacksonVirgo]

I don’t like how that post is framed, you once again say that I felt insulted which I personally feel I made clear that I wasn’t and I just expect to not be condescended. You also say there’s nothing more to say between us followed by more comments.

AtE can be labelled onto anything even remotely emotional and I’m honestly pretty sick of it. Do you think she shouldn’t be as emotionally driven as she is just because you aren’t? Firstly your positions are not the same, you are also difficult people. This sadly goes beyond this one specific game which I’ve been avoiding bringing up because it didn’t feel right but this is a constant barraged feeling across multiple (now closed, Im not referring to anything ongoing) games. This behaviour is nothing to suspect, she’s been feeing singled out across the board and this behaviour is incredibly telling of that particular feeling. This is not malicious AtE. This is just emotion. Just emotion.

Also if you’re deciding to lock-town me in an attempt to get me more on your side that won’t work fyi. Not saying anything by that just letting you know.

[JacksonVirgo]

Different people*

[JacksonVirgo]

The sooner we can get on the same page about that the better

[Gimli]

I don't, I find the way KJQ is playing kind of borderline unacceptable. it's a game, should be treated lightly. no one should be made feel bad because they're scumreading a player.

to the rest of your posting, I'd rather stop arguing.

[JacksonVirgo]

I don't, I find the way KJQ is playing kind of borderline unacceptable. it's a game, should be treated lightly. no one should be made feel bad because they're scumreading a player.

to the rest of your posting, I'd rather stop arguing.

Beyond my better judgement I’m trying to start a productive conversation with you with regards to Kay if that’s what you meant by arguing.

If you dislike the way she is playing, you dislike it. But that doesn’t make it scummy. I am in the honest belief that because of how she’s been treated in particular, it’s bolstering a very particular part of her playstyle and as such you’re not seeing her for what she is but more just how she responds to pressure which we’ve seen enough of. If you can just consider my words (considering you’re lock-towning me), drop this for a while. Push elsewhere, let her shine.

[Gimli]

I'm voting for awesomeming

[JacksonVirgo]

Where your vote is means so little.

[JacksonVirgo]

If your vote matters that much, people must only be able to have a single scumread. A single push.

That’s how many votes we have.

[JacksonVirgo]

She has enough pressure, we got enough from the pressure on her. I’m suggesting lifting that, even just temporarily. Let her do her thing. Let her show us what she has.

[JacksonVirgo]

That’s all I have to say.

[Gimli]

I haven't cased her or anything like that. I asked why I'm such a lock scum. she didn't answer it, she did that emotionally filled paragraph and refused to answer. I said - okay, you do you. but yes I'm scumreading said paragraph, and I explained it, to you. she is not the slot I'm pushing to flip right now. I don't know what else you want from me.

[JacksonVirgo]

What the fuck is your signature too

[Gimli]

What the fuck is your signature too

PJ Harvey - Rid of me

[JacksonVirgo]

I haven't cased her or anything like that. I asked why I'm such a lock scum. she didn't answer it, she did that emotionally filled paragraph and refused to answer. I said - okay, you do you. but yes I'm scumreading said paragraph, and I explained it, to you. she is not the slot I'm pushing to flip right now. I don't know what else you want from me.

I won’t argue this because it won’t change shit. Give her space to get back to a good headspace, let her explain herself. It can be hard to express your thoughts effectively when you feel like the world is against you.

Just because you have a main push doesn’t mean you aren’t also pushing for others. Or diminishing anothers thoughts. Based on what she said, she feels like you were also being condescending which Ill give you the benefit of the doubt and say it was accidental or even a language barrier thing but it’s still happening. It’s obviously affecting her.

Focus primarily on anybody but her, give her enough space. I’m clearly not saying for the whole game that’s stupid, but enough.

Thank you, I’m moving on.

What’s your thoughts on Fire?

[Gimli]

I think fire is a townie

[Gimli]

when I was reading after I replaced in, fire mindmelded with my thoughts while catching up enough that I'm confident this is town!fire

[JacksonVirgo]

Thoughts on what I said about him prodding the flames?

[JacksonVirgo]

Didn’t even realise the fire/flame connection, that’s hilarious

[Gimli]

Thoughts on what I said about him prodding the flames?

I think if you expand on it, I can answer. Im not sure I understand what you're suggesting

[JacksonVirgo]

when I was reading after I replaced in, fire mindmelded with my thoughts while catching up enough that I'm confident this is town!fire

See, I also thought that to a differing degree but that coupon is expiring fast.

[halfasleep]

Didn’t even realise the fire/flame connection, that’s hilarious

so far away we wait for the dayyyy