Open 906: AAAAAAHHHH I Ran out of Game Names!!! [Game Over]
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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I’m done arguing to a wolf that he’s a wolf. I want town to come in and talk with me-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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I want updated thoughts on fire in particular.-
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Gimli he/himJack of All Tradeshe/him
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I wanted to understand why you were still pretty much unmoved with your scumread on me while simultaneously never directly talking about what any of my posts mean wrt my alignment. it feels like a pretty strong read with unsubstantiated reasoning and the discrepancy between them, I'll repeat, is alarming to me.In post 1121, KayJayQueue wrote: I don’t think my reads matter. What will further elaborating on my scumread on Gimli do? Will I just continue to get condescended to and told I’m wrong by the same 2 people? What’s the point? To give more ammo to use against me that I’d need to defend against but then also be told I’m being too defensive? Like, if you’re scum, good job. But at what point is enough enough? Is it because I’m the only one engaging? You couldn’t get legs for Jake, purple, ming, Jupiter burnt out on his own, and now that Jackson isn’t gaining traction, will it just be right back to me? It doesn’t matter how much effort I put into my analysis because the players that aren’t really participating aren’t reading it anyway and the ones that are, are lying in wait to tear everything I say apart. Except for the one person who agrees with me but even that’s not allowed, because you have to attack the fact that we are townreading each other too. Give me one good reason to give you more of my time and effort. If the reason is so that I’m not mislimmed, at this point, it would be incredibly satisfying to get to watch those wanting me out on Day 2 when they have to humble themselves when they see I’m town. And I know if this happened, you’d still find a way to make my elimination my own fault. If you all can’t see that that’s what we’re moving towards, I don’t know what to tell you.
but if you don't want to expand on it, that's fineI'll tie your legs
Keep you against my chest-
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Gimli he/himJack of All Tradeshe/him
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I think I explained it quite well, but you were insulted by it.In post 1124, JacksonVirgo wrote:
By extension to this I believe that his reasonings for things are so focused and not at all substantive. I called out why us knowing each other outside of the game changes which of the two of us is the evil, it shouldn’t it changes absolutely nothing yet he’s pretending it does. It’s all fluffed logic in order to push who he wants to push. That’s simply it. The end.In post 1123, JacksonVirgo wrote: I don’t like Gimlis approach to this game. To put it simply it all feels like he wants to push a particular conclusion and builds a case around that instead of what town should be doing which is the exact opposite.
I agree with your other posts in terms of us having nothing to say to each other in this game anymore. I am pretty much locktowning you for your emotions, and I think I've been the towniest I could've possibly been in the game, given the poor position of my slot (which I'll argue again has nothing to do with how black was posting, as she was pretty towny herself). I don't believe in KJQ's latest post, I think again she resorts to AtE way too much and in ways that are completely baffling to me, and I find it amazingly hypocritical from both of you how you get to maintain your unmovable scumreads on my slot - no matter what I do - while reacting so emotionally to the appearance that other people are doing that (to KJQ).
I guess that's another condescending looking post in your direction. I'm sorry, I just rub people the wrong way.I'll tie your legs
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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I don’t like how that post is framed, you once again say that I felt insulted which I personally feel I made clear that I wasn’t and I just expect to not be condescended. You also say there’s nothing more to say between us followed by more comments.
AtE can be labelled onto anything even remotely emotional and I’m honestly pretty sick of it. Do you think she shouldn’t be as emotionally driven as she is just because you aren’t? Firstly your positions are not the same, you are also difficult people. This sadly goes beyond this one specific game which I’ve been avoiding bringing up because it didn’t feel right but this is a constant barraged feeling across multiple (now closed, Im not referring to anything ongoing) games. This behaviour is nothing to suspect, she’s been feeing singled out across the board and this behaviour is incredibly telling of that particular feeling. This is not malicious AtE. This is just emotion. Just emotion.
Also if you’re deciding to lock-town me in an attempt to get me more on your side that won’t work fyi. Not saying anything by that just letting you know.-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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Different people*-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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The sooner we can get on the same page about that the better-
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Gimli he/himJack of All Tradeshe/him
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I don't, I find the way KJQ is playing kind of borderline unacceptable. it's a game, should be treated lightly. no one should be made feel bad because they're scumreading a player.
to the rest of your posting, I'd rather stop arguing.I'll tie your legs
Keep you against my chest-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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Beyond my better judgement I’m trying to start a productive conversation with you with regards to Kay if that’s what you meant by arguing.In post 1132, Gimli wrote: I don't, I find the way KJQ is playing kind of borderline unacceptable. it's a game, should be treated lightly. no one should be made feel bad because they're scumreading a player.
to the rest of your posting, I'd rather stop arguing.
If you dislike the way she is playing, you dislike it. But that doesn’t make it scummy. I am in the honest belief that because of how she’s been treated in particular, it’s bolstering a very particular part of her playstyle and as such you’re not seeing her for what she is but more just how she responds to pressure which we’ve seen enough of. If you can just consider my words (considering you’re lock-towning me), drop this for a while. Push elsewhere, let her shine.-
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Gimli he/himJack of All Tradeshe/him
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I'm voting for awesomemingI'll tie your legs
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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Where your vote is means so little.-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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If your vote matters that much, people must only be able to have a single scumread. A single push.
That’s how many votes we have.-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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She has enough pressure, we got enough from the pressure on her. I’m suggesting lifting that, even just temporarily. Let her do her thing. Let her show us what she has.-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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That’s all I have to say.-
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Gimli he/himJack of All Tradeshe/him
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I haven't cased her or anything like that. I asked why I'm such a lock scum. she didn't answer it, she did that emotionally filled paragraph and refused to answer. I said - okay, you do you. but yes I'm scumreading said paragraph, and I explained it, to you. she is not the slot I'm pushing to flip right now. I don't know what else you want from me.I'll tie your legs
Keep you against my chest-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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What the fuck is your signature too-
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Gimli he/himJack of All Tradeshe/him
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PJ Harvey - Rid of meIn post 1140, JacksonVirgo wrote: What the fuck is your signature tooI'll tie your legs
Keep you against my chest-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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I won’t argue this because it won’t change shit. Give her space to get back to a good headspace, let her explain herself. It can be hard to express your thoughts effectively when you feel like the world is against you.In post 1139, Gimli wrote: I haven't cased her or anything like that. I asked why I'm such a lock scum. she didn't answer it, she did that emotionally filled paragraph and refused to answer. I said - okay, you do you. but yes I'm scumreading said paragraph, and I explained it, to you. she is not the slot I'm pushing to flip right now. I don't know what else you want from me.
Just because you have a main push doesn’t mean you aren’t also pushing for others. Or diminishing anothers thoughts. Based on what she said, she feels like you were also being condescending which Ill give you the benefit of the doubt and say it was accidental or even a language barrier thing but it’s still happening. It’s obviously affecting her.
Focus primarily on anybody but her, give her enough space. I’m clearly not saying for the whole game that’s stupid, but enough.
Thank you, I’m moving on.
What’s your thoughts on Fire?-
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Gimli he/himJack of All Tradeshe/him
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I think fire is a townieI'll tie your legs
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Gimli he/himJack of All Tradeshe/him
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when I was reading after I replaced in, fire mindmelded with my thoughts while catching up enough that I'm confident this is town!fireI'll tie your legs
Keep you against my chest-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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Thoughts on what I said about him prodding the flames?-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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Didn’t even realise the fire/flame connection, that’s hilarious-
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Gimli he/himJack of All Tradeshe/him
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I think if you expand on it, I can answer. Im not sure I understand what you're suggestingIn post 1145, JacksonVirgo wrote: Thoughts on what I said about him prodding the flames?I'll tie your legs
Keep you against my chest-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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See, I also thought that to a differing degree but that coupon is expiring fast.In post 1144, Gimli wrote: when I was reading after I replaced in, fire mindmelded with my thoughts while catching up enough that I'm confident this is town!fire-
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so far away we wait for the dayyyyIn post 1146, JacksonVirgo wrote: Didn’t even realise the fire/flame connection, that’s hilariousAn optimist would say that I'm half-awake.
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