Open 906: AAAAAAHHHH I Ran out of Game Names!!! [Game Over]
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fireisredsir Jack of All Trades
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for instance, let's say he's partnered with me or halfasleep or thom as proposed. the three of us are experiencing very little pressure, and whoever he's with, together we can help shape and control the game
replacing in and setting himself up to antagonize the t/t jackson/kay social duo is a horrible idea. it locks in their scumreads on him and suddenly he's fighting a huge uphill battle when he literally could have just not done that
he can just buddy up to them and appease and immediately have 40% of the game on his side, while having tons of room to direct things towards miselims on purple, ming, or jake, which should be very easy to accomplish especially with a well-positioned partner helping him out
there's only 9 players in this game and every relationship that you establish is incredibly valuable as scum. burning bridges and continually prodding in new directions and potentially upsetting new people because you can't settle on one direction to push is just very counterproductive to scum win condition. but it does match up fairly well with what town would look like trying to solve-
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fireisredsir Jack of All Trades
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jackson i know you think that i am trying to maintain the division in town which is kind of fair bc i was annoyed at the game and didn't really do much to try to heal it
but i am fairly confident in gimli town, and i know that mathematically there has to be at least 1 town in kay/jackson/jake, and gamestate read i think there's probably two
if that town can find gimli as town then suddenly this game becomes much more playable and solvable. so currently that is my goal
i do additionally believe there is probably 1 scum in that group of 3 but i don't particularly care about them right now, id rather try to talk to whoever is town there and hopefully they're open to listening-
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He was originally townreading me when he replaced in but shifted when he realized my scumread didn’t disappear. It felt like he was trying to get townread, realized it wouldn’t work and changed to scumreading me to try to get who he could on his side. Maybe it’s “counterproductive” to keep changing reads but it doesn’t mean it’s not AI, and by that, I don’t mean town.-
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Why?In post 1181, JacksonVirgo wrote: I’d rather die than jake/kay.
According to your claim, you are a town, assuming they are also a town, What is the difference? Especially since you should be completely sure what your role is, and less about theirs
Or is it like metaphorical Thing-
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fireisredsir Jack of All Trades
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he started prodding at you in his 8th post which was less than an hour after his first content postIn post 1202, KayJayQueue wrote: He was originally townreading me when he replaced in but shifted when he realized my scumread didn’t disappear. It felt like he was trying to get townread, realized it wouldn’t work and changed to scumreading me to try to get who he could on his side. Maybe it’s “counterproductive” to keep changing reads but it doesn’t mean it’s not AI, and by that, I don’t mean town.
that would be a pretty quick shift based on that narrative i think-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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I am open to listening, I’m not interested in following logic based on PoE or arguments against myself obviously. It’s going to be difficult to convince me against kay/jake and now halfasleep so if you want my brain. Look outside of that for today. If you don’t want gimli, there’s a second wolf we can look for them together.In post 1201, fireisredsir wrote: jackson i know you think that i am trying to maintain the division in town which is kind of fair bc i was annoyed at the game and didn't really do much to try to heal it
but i am fairly confident in gimli town, and i know that mathematically there has to be at least 1 town in kay/jackson/jake, and gamestate read i think there's probably two
if that town can find gimli as town then suddenly this game becomes much more playable and solvable. so currently that is my goal
i do additionally believe there is probably 1 scum in that group of 3 but i don't particularly care about them right now, id rather try to talk to whoever is town there and hopefully they're open to listening
I do agree with halfasleeps conclusion, I am fairly okay with labelling you town for now. I saw one possible avenue for you being scum, I wanted to shift the town to a more productive place so
I started pushing that but got convinced against it pretty quickly lol which I expected-
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Hyperbole to make a pointIn post 1203, Purplemango wrote:
Why?In post 1181, JacksonVirgo wrote: I’d rather die than jake/kay.
According to your claim, you are a town, assuming they are also a town, What is the difference? Especially since you should be completely sure what your role is, and less about theirs
Or is it like metaphorical Thing-
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fireisredsir Jack of All Trades
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fwiw i think your posting has been very measured and reasonable and pleasant and not annoying at all, if you are indeed new then welcome and i hope to see you around in more gamesIn post 1198, halfasleep wrote: - if i've learned anything in this game so far it's that i may be even more annoying than i thought i was -
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Seconded, I needed a voice like yours and you humouring my idea like you did and ISOing fire was hugely appreciated. I respect it a lot, thank youIn post 1207, fireisredsir wrote:
fwiw i think your posting has been very measured and reasonable and pleasant and not annoying at all, if you are indeed new then welcome and i hope to see you around in more gamesIn post 1198, halfasleep wrote: - if i've learned anything in this game so far it's that i may be even more annoying than i thought i was -
this is a pocket attempt-
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Also a pocket attempt-
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fireisredsir Jack of All Trades
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i was just going to joke that you were scum because you seconded the pocket attempt and you beat me to it
foiled again. we'll get em next time-
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Haha!In post 1210, fireisredsir wrote: i was just going to joke that you were scum because you seconded the pocket attempt and you beat me to it
foiled again. we'll get em next time
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we should flip mingIn post 1179, JacksonVirgo wrote: There isn’t scum in Jake/Kay. You say there’s no scum in Gimli and obv yourself. I’m not a wolf. It for sure isn’t halfasleep now. Unless the scum is specifically in ming/purple/thom one of us is wrong. That pool Is almost entirely PoE aside from Thom.I'll tie your legs
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In post 1197, fireisredsir wrote: the thing is that if gimli was scum he could have gotten largely townread and also flipped a town by now
so true bestieI'll tie your legs
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I'm the only one voting for a potential scum atmI'll tie your legs
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I hope DE is sitting in his mod PT, proud of his buddyI'll tie your legs
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When you say you don't like the appraoch to the game, are you saying that you think this is a scum!Gimli approach? Or is this a more geenral statement?In post 1123, JacksonVirgo wrote: I don’t like Gimlis approach to this game. To put it simply it all feels like he wants to push a particular conclusion and builds a case around that instead of what town should be doing which is the exact opposite.
Why are you so sure there isn't a scum in Jake/Kay?In post 1179, JacksonVirgo wrote: There isn’t scum in Jake/Kay. You say there’s no scum in Gimli and obv yourself. I’m not a wolf. It for sure isn’t halfasleep now. Unless the scum is specifically in ming/purple/thom one of us is wrong. That pool Is almost entirely PoE aside from Thom.
Rereading/comparing Purple/mings ISO nowthomith could be a court jester
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On a reread, I guess I see a difference.
Primarily, Purple tends to be asking questions of other people in an attempt to read people, which on a reread does look like he could genuinely be trying to solve.
ming makes "solving" statements like the below:
In post 83, awesomeming327 wrote: Hot take Purplemango scumIn post 96, awesomeming327 wrote:
Bad answerIn post 94, KayJayQueue wrote:
The comment before the vote makes it seem like an excuse for jumping on a bus (that was only 2 votes at the time, so not even a bus)In post 91, JupiterXV wrote: gamers do yall think jake voting purple is scum-motivated or not
VOTE: KayJayQueue
The correct answer is:
3rd vote scum theorem
But it takes him a while to actually elaborate on any of this, which on a reread makes me question this slot more, as these hard stances are rarely explained it feels like, making them easier to explain away later?In post 134, awesomeming327 wrote: stop ateingthomith could be a court jester
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Don’t like = I think it’s scummy.In post 1217, Thomith wrote:
When you say you don't like the appraoch to the game, are you saying that you think this is a scum!Gimli approach? Or is this a more geenral statement?In post 1123, JacksonVirgo wrote: I don’t like Gimlis approach to this game. To put it simply it all feels like he wants to push a particular conclusion and builds a case around that instead of what town should be doing which is the exact opposite.
Why are you so sure there isn't a scum in Jake/Kay?In post 1179, JacksonVirgo wrote: There isn’t scum in Jake/Kay. You say there’s no scum in Gimli and obv yourself. I’m not a wolf. It for sure isn’t halfasleep now. Unless the scum is specifically in ming/purple/thom one of us is wrong. That pool Is almost entirely PoE aside from Thom.
Rereading/comparing Purple/mings ISO now
I was planning on going in depth about Jake, I’ve explained Kay.-
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In post 1208, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Seconded, I needed a voice like yours and you humouring my idea like you did and ISOing fire was hugely appreciated. I respect it a lot, thank youIn post 1207, fireisredsir wrote:
fwiw i think your posting has been very measured and reasonable and pleasant and not annoying at all, if you are indeed new then welcome and i hope to see you around in more gamesIn post 1198, halfasleep wrote: - if i've learned anything in this game so far it's that i may be even more annoying than i thought i was -
this is a pocket attempt
*frantically on the phone to my mum, trying to explain what mafiascum dot net is so i can tell her i'm finally popular*In post 1209, JacksonVirgo wrote: Also a pocket attemptAn optimist would say that I'm half-awake.-
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this is absolutely false when it comes to this game btwIn post 1195, KayJayQueue wrote:
983 also came after my posts defending purple and possible reasons for his iso vs ming when they were said to be similar.In post 1191, fireisredsir wrote: @halfasleep, for further context, 983 came right after gimli did a dive on purplemango and towncased him which i think was an incredibly unproductive move for scum!gimli to pull there, which is why i had that reaction to it
that was basically the point that pushed me over the edge into thinking he was very likely town, prior to that i was still slightly warySomething I notice Gimli does is take other people’s ideas and rework them into his own posts to appear to be solving but it’s usually nothing overly original when you take into account the flow of the game whenever he makes posts you read as town(and I believe he does that for that exact reason, to be town read)
my townread on mango, the specific reasoning for the townread on jake, my pretty elaborate scumread on ming, the specific reasoning for the townread on thimoth slot, the evaluation on jacksonvirgo and the locktownread there - and those just from memory - are all blatantly things I brought up alone to the thread. if I'm ever adding anything from other people to my reasonings, it's because I'm solving, not building an invention. I would like to know, tho, the posts where it looks like I'm reworking other people's thoughts into my own to appear towny.I'll tie your legs
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also a lot of what I said about people, if it was said before by someone else, can just be a mindmeld and agreeing to things and looking at the game similarly.I'll tie your legs
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*mom I'm popular with the mafia scum*In post 1220, halfasleep wrote: *frantically on the phone to my mum, trying to explain what mafiascum dot net is so i can tell her i'm finally popular*I'll tie your legs
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I would like to point out that KJQ failed at showing anything resembling a coherent reasoning for scumreading me and then said something completely and blatantly false about my posts (which, even if true, wouldn't even be scummy, and can be said about everyone at any given time).I'll tie your legs
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