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Hate itIn post 1860, ketchup777 wrote:
what are your opinions on mayonnaise?In post 1859, usesPython wrote: Wanna vote PC with us?Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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I'd imagine notIn post 1863, Political Clout wrote:
following your logic wouldn't that mean I'm town.In post 1858, ketchup777 wrote: Political Clout very much fits the bill of figured it out on D2. His unvote/voting on Light has bad cop equity as others have pointed out, and he was the penultimate person to claim cop.
In post 1851, ketchup777 wrote: yes cool
so either scum are informed, or they worked out the setup themselves pretty quickly, or they were late to the massclaim. or a mix of thesePlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Like you'd fit the bill of "late to the massclaim + worked out the setup d2"In post 1866, usesPython wrote:
I'd imagine notIn post 1863, Political Clout wrote:
following your logic wouldn't that mean I'm town.In post 1858, ketchup777 wrote: Political Clout very much fits the bill of figured it out on D2. His unvote/voting on Light has bad cop equity as others have pointed out, and he was the penultimate person to claim cop.
In post 1851, ketchup777 wrote: yes cool
so either scum are informed, or they worked out the setup themselves pretty quickly, or they were late to the massclaim. or a mix of thesePlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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In post 1883, Political Clout wrote: lap died day 1 not night 1Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Could be partnered with PC but we'd prefer to go PC before Titus cause the rest of her posting isn't bottom tierIn post 1894, Black wrote: python what is your read on TitusPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Friends and EnemiesIn post 1907, ketchup777 wrote: isn't 3 masons 7 VT vs goons supposed to be balanced? yet the above setup might easily get to a point where only 1 person is confirmable. plus masons have private topic and stuffPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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What do you want us to comment on, we've already elaborated on why we think your anti-cop equity is scummyIn post 1922, Political Clout wrote: and python doesn't bother to engage with me and is only to happy to see us go back and forth. none of this gives you pause about anything ketchup?Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Also if anyone actually thinks Ranger isn't fakeclaiming like always we've got a bridge to sell youPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Ranger fakeclaims like every game regardless of alignmentIn post 1931, ketchup777 wrote:
what?In post 1930, usesPython wrote: Also if anyone actually thinks Ranger isn't fakeclaiming like always we've got a bridge to sell youPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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JVs townread on you was based on you being the distraction to the light wagon, since they warmed up on light it doesn't apply anymoreIn post 1933, Political Clout wrote:
I didn't even see it lol. Why did you unvote when jackson told you I was town and revote now? it seems you only supposedly follow your "town picks that have higher accuracy than you" when you want.In post 1928, usesPython wrote:
What do you want us to comment on, we've already elaborated on why we think your anti-cop equity is scummyIn post 1922, Political Clout wrote: and python doesn't bother to engage with me and is only to happy to see us go back and forth. none of this gives you pause about anything ketchup?Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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I have a bridge to sell youIn post 1934, ketchup777 wrote:
oh cool good to knowIn post 1932, usesPython wrote:
Ranger fakeclaims like every game regardless of alignmentIn post 1931, ketchup777 wrote:
what?In post 1930, usesPython wrote: Also if anyone actually thinks Ranger isn't fakeclaiming like always we've got a bridge to sell you
I still don't understand the bridge bit but whatevs
(idiomatic, US) An indirect way of expressing that the addressee is gullible.Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Didn't see, what's the extraIn post 1938, JacksonVirgo wrote:
It was more than thatIn post 1935, usesPython wrote:
JVs townread on you was based on you being the distraction to the light wagon, since they warmed up on light it doesn't apply anymoreIn post 1933, Political Clout wrote:
I didn't even see it lol. Why did you unvote when jackson told you I was town and revote now? it seems you only supposedly follow your "town picks that have higher accuracy than you" when you want.In post 1928, usesPython wrote:
What do you want us to comment on, we've already elaborated on why we think your anti-cop equity is scummyIn post 1922, Political Clout wrote: and python doesn't bother to engage with me and is only to happy to see us go back and forth. none of this gives you pause about anything ketchup?Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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SometimesIn post 1989, ketchup777 wrote: Ranger do you ever unvote? (not vote for anyone at some point?)Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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We're available what's the current beefPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Not hammeringPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Those statements are logically identical.In post 2189, Ranger wrote: A scum-Titus gave it away with the bolded part, the true key. "no fewer than 3 cops".
Why did Titus assume there were?three cops, instead ofno fewer thanat leastthree
No fewer than three = three or more
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Three investigatives != Three cops, There's a difference between Cop/Cop/Disloyal Cop and Loyal Cop/Macho Nea/Weak Doctor/Mafia Roleblocker
Likewise everyone the same role != everyone cop, there's a difference between everyone being a joat with meh roles and everyone being an ungated copPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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At the risk of doing the same thing I accused ketchup of doing: because that'd still bare minimum generate one hard clear a day assuming perfect roleblocks, more realistically two+ clears a day which mechanically locks the game by d3 if scum get unlucky with checks and killsIn post 2189, Ranger wrote:From the perspective of a town-Titus, why couldn't this have been a valid setup?Spoiler: Hypothetical SetupPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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VOTE: RangerPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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I disagree, I think Ranger would know better than to make these kinds of mech conflations
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Nothing's changed on Titus's end. She's still mid tier posting with some PC associatives and we're still perfectly fine with going for PC, it's just ranger that dropped from bad to worseIn post 2218, Enchant wrote:
Hm what changedIn post 1906, usesPython wrote:
Could be partnered with PC but we'd prefer to go PC before Titus cause the rest of her posting isn't bottom tierIn post 1894, Black wrote: python what is your read on TitusPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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The problem with the tunneled town!Ranger theory is that normally when she's tunneled she starts twisting dayplay in the worst light possible while mech stays fairly solid (though minimal if it's not necessary). Here we're seeing the opposite; With the exception of the "no less vs at least" part if you take the mech at face value the dayplay argument is pretty solid. The problem is the mech being twisted with false equivalences causes the dayplay argument to fall apart, it's just the reverse of what kind of mistake we'd expect to see if Ranger was tunneledIn post 2221, Titus wrote: Ranger was just waiting for people to start seeing me as town. She's wanting the whole day to focus on me. Like uses said, she's better than this. Ideally, people should have let me defend myself from Ranger's bogus case but still.
Uses, do you think there's any possibility of tunneled Ranger?Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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We disagree but we'll wait for Titus to start responding before we elaborateIn post 2232, Ranger wrote: There's thousands, millions, of possible setups Alianna could create where there's precisely three Cops, facing a scumteam which has answers to it.Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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"scum!Python wants a tvt by defending E-1!Titus" is a pretty nuclear takeIn post 2244, Titus wrote: If Ranger is town, scum uses wants a t v t AND cut me off from answering.Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Drew give us the good stuff, we literally want Ranger dead and just defended TitusIn post 2248, Doctor Drew wrote:
I just get a vibe that python is working to actively protect Ranger(and in turn push Titus), and I feel like Titus just showed herself as town as well.In post 2229, Political Clout wrote:
tell me more tell me more.In post 2228, Doctor Drew wrote: And kinda a not so good vibe from Python
I have been going back and forth on Titus/Ranger, but this feels right finallyPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Like we had an uncontested Titus hammer open there idk where you're getting the "defend ranger push titus" stancePlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Oh yeah we almost forgot about that, why did you claim a message?In post 2264, ketchup777 wrote: I also have a whole section about a plausible messenger fakeclaim I could claim but I’ll save that for another timePlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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This is trueIn post 2271, ketchup777 wrote: Also if I do a big post some people won’t read it but if I do little posts it’ll create the illusion that it’ll be quick to read
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Mafia Roleblocker Godfather is normal legal and does exactly what you're looking for
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Still not interested in hammering thisPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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We are, no reason not to.
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No, Enchant unvotedIn post 2286, JacksonVirgo wrote: Is that hammer?Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Pretty obviously not a serious comment given that they'd have come out with it way earlier
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Folks we got a red check on ranger tomorrowPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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no that's dumb, treat the above posts like the jokes they are and just do the list thingPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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idk, can you?Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Ok but have you considered Ranger?Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Enchant still alive that's pretty funnyPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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It's day before ELO so no point in hypoing results, I got an inno on BlackPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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VOTE: RangerPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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We're taking full credit for being the first to figure out Ranger was scum (idk if we were the first but we're still taking credit)Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Enchant is still the designated VTIn post 2337, Doctor Drew wrote: Wait, does this mean that sometimes Enchant really is scum here as well??Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Because doing it the day before ELO maximizes the amount of checks that happen while still giving enough time to 1f1 peopleIn post 2356, Political Clout wrote: so why didn't we deal with the competing claims yesterday?Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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UNVOTE: RangerPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Wait then what's Enchant if not Cop?Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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We'd be voting light here but I don't want the day to endPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Not really about checking in, we know light's confscum so ending the day just gets Ranger shotIn post 2386, Hu Tao wrote: We can let everyone check in. I'm not sure who hasn't posted yet. But I thought everyone had alreadyPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Posting in an airport, we'll catch up later but Ranger should be mechanically conftown from your perspective because for Ranger to be scum one of the following scenarios would be true:In post 2503, Doctor Drew wrote: Also, why is it so crazy to think I wouldn't NK Jackson?
I don't really get the progression from Titus and Ketchup.......though I can't think of a viable reason that they would be scum and using the NK, to lock me town I guess?
I don't think either of them think they can pocket me(actually I believe Ranger thinks she could, so that pushes the scale slightly to her as scum).
But right now, I kinda am town leaning Ranger......just the pieces aren't adding up right as for her to be scum- Enchant is VT, Ranger is Mafia Godfather and Enchant is letting her steal the VT claim (Which like why?)
- Enchant and Ranger are mafia, there are no VT claims so either a VT is silent (Which like why?) or the unannounced rulebreak was 0 VTs which would mean getting an Inno on Enchant would be impossible
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Where we're at right now:
{Ranger} - The full conftown
{Enchant} - The conftown but too lazy to check
{Drew} - This dude town
{Hu Tao, Ketchup} - Hu Taown is townier by mech and Ketchup townier by play
THE LINE
{Black} - The wildcard
{Political Clout} - The fake cop
{light} - The confscum
We're not willing to kill anyone above the line until everyone below it is dead, if we're wrong on anyone it'd probably be Black in which case it comes down to figuring out if Schum Tao would know to fake Cop from the Disloyal Cop + Cop flips or notPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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In post 2509, Political Clout wrote:
so what's your take on the setup now?In post 2357, usesPython wrote:
Because doing it the day before ELO maximizes the amount of checks that happen while still giving enough time to 1f1 peopleIn post 2356, Political Clout wrote: so why didn't we deal with the competing claims yesterday?Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Everyone's been checked by multiple people so noIn post 2516, light_ganski wrote: My other bet is that the godfather thing could be a misdirect and the actual setup is something like ascetic scums (because I'm not sure why otherwise there's multiple disloyal town cops)Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Also Titus had an inno on RangerPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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We ready to start blasting people or does anyone still have stuff to add?Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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We've been sacrificing a goat every Sunday, you haven't?In post 2525, Doctor Drew wrote:
Python, who do we need to sacrifice and to which deity so that we can roll scum together?In post 2507, Black wrote: I still think it's probably Drew and python. Ketchup is obvtownPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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In post 2559, Hu Tao wrote: Someone hammer please god
It's called waiting for RangerIn post 2560, Hu Tao wrote: Why do people like to stall games for no reasons
(Easiest prodge of our life)In post 2555, Ranger wrote:
Been sick, tryin to recover; I don't think I'll find anything groundbreaking by looking at the light suspicion through the game, yet if I can I want to.In post 2530, usesPython wrote:We'll let Ranger check in one last time before we drop the E-1Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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