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[Alianna]

2.15

Votecount 2.15

Ranger (3): Random Nurse, Titus, Oblivion
Hu Tao (3): Ranger, Naerys, PenguinPower
Snow2697 (2): Thomith, Gypyx
PenguinPower (2): KayJayQueue, Hu Tao
Thomith (1): Snow2697

Not Voting (2): geraintm, Lycanfire

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-04-07 10:29:00).

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.

[Oblivion]

This game sucks.

[KayJayQueue]

This game sucks.

Yeah it’s not super fun…

[Oblivion]

Ranger's claim is so many levels of BS.

Does no one except it remember when Ranger bragged about how surprised it woupd be about her claim and then claimed the least surprising most obvious bait claim in the world that didn't match that tone at all?

What is going to happen is that Ranger will live today if you let her, live tomorrow on promise of shooting someone but you will never get that shot. Either they will claim to be roleblocked or shoot a townie and then if you go "okay time to sort ranger" it is MELO and you won't have space to do it.

Now is the time to murder this suspicious player with a suspicious claim. Town does not need a N3 Vig or a N4 Jailkeeper, and more likely it is a scum fake claim.

We should not be running up other players to claim to feed the scum more info on our roles.

Murder Ranger with it, they will flip scum.

[Oblivion]

It is begging players to see reason.

[Gypyx]

Ranger's claim is so many levels of BS.

Does no one except it remember when Ranger bragged about how surprised it woupd be about her claim and then claimed the least surprising most obvious bait claim in the world that didn't match that tone at all?

What is going to happen is that Ranger will live today if you let her, live tomorrow on promise of shooting someone but you will never get that shot. Either they will claim to be roleblocked or shoot a townie and then if you go "okay time to sort ranger" it is MELO and you won't have space to do it.

Now is the time to murder this suspicious player with a suspicious claim. Town does not need a N3 Vig or a N4 Jailkeeper, and more likely it is a scum fake claim.

We should not be running up other players to claim to feed the scum more info on our roles.

Murder Ranger with it, they will flip scum.

i absolutely murder ranger if she claimes RBed tommorow

but there is value in letting things play out

actually hmmm, scum vig isn't even out of the picture lol, this is a complex

[Naerys]

what if gypyx is the only scum in hood

[Thomith]

what if gypyx is the only scum in hood

Doubtful.

Do you suspect Gypyx?

[Oblivion]

Ranger's claim is so many levels of BS.

Does no one except it remember when Ranger bragged about how surprised it woupd be about her claim and then claimed the least surprising most obvious bait claim in the world that didn't match that tone at all?

What is going to happen is that Ranger will live today if you let her, live tomorrow on promise of shooting someone but you will never get that shot. Either they will claim to be roleblocked or shoot a townie and then if you go "okay time to sort ranger" it is MELO and you won't have space to do it.

Now is the time to murder this suspicious player with a suspicious claim. Town does not need a N3 Vig or a N4 Jailkeeper, and more likely it is a scum fake claim.

We should not be running up other players to claim to feed the scum more info on our roles.

Murder Ranger with it, they will flip scum.

i absolutely murder ranger if she claimes RBed tommorow

but there is value in letting things play out

actually hmmm, scum vig isn't even out of the picture lol, this is a complex

Tomorrow???!?!!

Tonight is NIGHT 2.

You won't get to know anything until 2 cycles from now on DAY 4.

[Oblivion]

It is losing its mind.

[Gypyx]

yeah my bad i misspoke

[PenguinPower]

what did ranger claim...i missed it.

[Gypyx]

Night 3 vig Night 4 jailkeeper

[Naerys]

what if gypyx is the only scum in hood

Doubtful.

Do you suspect Gypyx?

it kinda feels to me like she wants us to go on a wild chase
logic says there is good chance there is a scum in the hood bot solely focusing only on a hood is a mistake imo
i can see situation where gypyx is the only scum there and forces through 4 mislims with maybe getting yeeted herself but not really revealing her scum buddies. which would put us in bad situation

[Gypyx]

oh no you've figured me out

[Naerys]

oh no you've figured me out

i am just being doubtful of ur motivations

[geraintm]

Gypyx not understanding people's concerns with the Hood 1st policy is annoying and odd. A couple of us have brought it up and they are just refusing to see our point of view.

RE: Ranger - i don't have a reason to doubt the claim. Maybe others do, but not me. Oblivion is worried that they will get a free pass till later in the game, which is true, but it would then give us a really obvious elimination later on which is a huge plus to me.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: ranger

[PenguinPower]

that's a claim i would expect from scum ranger. she'll just try to wriggle out of it later with some big brained reasoning.

[Lycanfire]

VOTE: Ranger

I feel like they were working backwards with their reads, and that she had a reason to as well. I specifically told Ranger not to finish the game on short notice and find a good place to stop and drop reads there. I felt like I could have backed her up if she was entirely wrong due to missing info as I was freshly reading the game at that same time. Instead we saw a questionable trajectory of players, including her top scumread for the entire game, Hu Tao, never posting in the pages and including on the page she earned Ranger's vote.

This reads like low effort scum that is forced to performed Ranger's trick. She's barely tried to clear the bar, and I don't get the "wait and see what dave's role really was" comment is about if this was the role she had at the time.

The difference in effort and mentality between her and I make me more suspicious of her. Any towns should have been glad to have been given the treatment I was giving her to get her into the game, and instead I was getting fake paranoia, because Ranger likes to remember they can't TMI townies as scum. That isn't how a townie would have acted, though. I was holding off on this vote because it's clearly the tipping point BTW. I'm not surprised if we quickly enter night.

[Lycanfire]

In the pages leading up to and including on the page she earned Ranger's vote. ebwop.

[Lycanfire]

Bad feelings about Thomith-Gypyx being on Snow and nothing happening there. Keep that in mind if this game goes late.

Don't agree on randomnurse being scummy. See 549. They didn't agree with pushing NAS, and they caught them online and asked them to contribute. Townpost. They were actively offering alternatives and kneejerked hard to the NAS flashwagon. They didn't let that go for 100s of posts. Doesn't read as bullshit.

Geraint has shown good paranoia in this game. 379
wouldn't make good partners with scum!penguin 440
bad faith voting post 961

Spoiler: vote count at post

2.07

Votecount 2.07

Ranger (E-2): Hu Tao, Random Nurse, Thomith, PenguinPower, Gypyx
Naerys (2): Ranger, Titus
Titus (1): Naerys
Thomith (1): Snow2697

Not Voting (4): Oblivion, geraintm, KayJayQueue, Lycanfire

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-04-06 10:29:00).

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.

Ranger wagon at this point was lazy. We have a crossvote between Naerys and Titus, a vanity vote, and two people scumreading each other voting Naerys together.

[Thomith]

Bad feelings about Thomith-Gypyx being on Snow and nothing happening there. Keep that in mind if this game goes late.

Don't agree on randomnurse being scummy. See 549. They didn't agree with pushing NAS, and they caught them online and asked them to contribute. Townpost. They were actively offering alternatives and kneejerked hard to the NAS flashwagon. They didn't let that go for 100s of posts. Doesn't read as bullshit.

Geraint has shown good paranoia in this game. 379
wouldn't make good partners with scum!penguin 440
bad faith voting post 961

Spoiler: vote count at post

2.07

Votecount 2.07

Ranger (E-2): Hu Tao, Random Nurse, Thomith, PenguinPower, Gypyx
Naerys (2): Ranger, Titus
Titus (1): Naerys
Thomith (1): Snow2697

Not Voting (4): Oblivion, geraintm, KayJayQueue, Lycanfire

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-04-06 10:29:00).

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.

Ranger wagon at this point was lazy. We have a crossvote between Naerys and Titus, a vanity vote, and two people scumreading each other voting Naerys together.

Could you elaborate on the first point?

[Lycanfire]

In a world where Hu and Ranger are town:

Ranger

(4): Random Nurse, Titus, Oblivion,

Lycanfire

Hu Tao

(3):

Ranger

, Naerys, PenguinPower
Snow2697 (2): Thomith, Gypyx
PenguinPower (2): KayJayQueue,

Hu Tao

Thomith (1): Snow2697

Not Voting (1): geraintm

This means I need to be wrong about: at least 2 of my 4 scum picks. There's 10 players with 4 scum in them in this scenario. For Snow to also be town, scum would be giving up the opportunity for the Ranger-Hu tension to remain unresolved. I don't see you and Gypyx being so obvious here.


I'm moving geraint up in my townreads from a harder to fake perspective. Snow's coming down. I like Snow, a lot. I've vibed with them the entire game. I don't like 944 because it's too happy to eliminate inside the hood. It's a pretty big net they cast between this post 936. 936 is an interesting post from a new player. If I were scum in the hood, I wouldn't give a shit about eliminating inside of it because I'd have a set number of townies in my mind I'd be willing to trade myself for. Did Snow come up with this on their own?

Luckily, Snow looks really good on a Ranger scumflip.

[Alianna]

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