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Post Post #24 (isolation #0) » Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:51 am

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I taught a parakeet to talk.
It told me Spyspy was scum.
WHY SPY
WHY?
Vote: Spy
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Post Post #33 (isolation #1) » Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:00 am

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The UNSIGNED will be the lazy and forgetful Elli.
The SIGNED will be the wise and generous and rememberstosignful Nacho.
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Post Post #67 (isolation #2) » Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:16 pm

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The PARAKEET never lies.
ONWARDS MEN. The OPERATION will succeed.
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Post Post #263 (isolation #3) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:25 am

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A sad parakeet is here.
Looking for his Nacho who's MLA.
Laughing at his Silly whore who's quite amusing.
yeahblah catching up.
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Post Post #264 (isolation #4) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:25 am

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EBWOP: MIA*
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Post Post #265 (isolation #5) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:29 am

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Oh yeah sila you're scum aren't you?
However much I loved your haiku go through that corkscrewgearflashofgreen brain process for that hammer for me please. I'll see if it matches with your brain diagram.
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Post Post #267 (isolation #6) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:35 am

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The parakeet's whim yesterday on Spy was off a stupidstupid confirmio thingy I wanted to try for fun.
Stalked the confirm timings and orders and stuff with the thread. Except I just recorded orders and not timestamps.

For this:
1. GUT
2. DGB, Hindu, TAR
3. Duplic
4. Vitaminr
5. Sila, Kublai (Spy spy on but no conf?)
6. Ban, Ben (spy still no conf)

So that failed.
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Post Post #269 (isolation #7) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:46 am

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IT WAS LULZTIMESTAMPZ.
Offspy wagon minus dead is duplic, Quil, Ben, Magna, Baby, Illum.
Ben is town, Quil is town. Duplic, Magna, Baby, Illum...ohblehwhatever
Oh fine fate, virtual proxy.

Vote: Sila

Invict: Baby
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Post Post #290 (isolation #8) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:22 pm

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LET'S ALL BE FRIEEEEEENDS GUYS.
and kill other people.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT FRIENDS DO
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Post Post #291 (isolation #9) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:24 pm

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on that note, what's this history between Korlash and Fate/Spy.
I'm sensing a fun read.
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Post Post #307 (isolation #10) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:08 pm

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[quote="Kublai Kahn]
Quilford wrote:WHY ARE YOU SCUM

Gonna go ahead and Invictus you now. KTHKBYE[/quote]
QUILLFY IS EVEN MORE TOWN.

Kublai wrote:{danceHello, Gut, Quilford, silavor} <-- I'm thinking that this is a good starting group to look for scum in.

And you guyz has scum.
Sila. and one more? or two? hmmma?
GUTTTTTT
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Post Post #315 (isolation #11) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:33 pm

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So now we has 1, 2{Dance, sila, Gut} + 2, 3{Duplic, magna, Baby, Illu} amirite.

Nautilus is scum. Elli is easy to read on that part.

You're doing it wrong.
Other than that you're doing it right.
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Post Post #319 (isolation #12) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:54 pm

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and whaaaaaaat's wrong with that?
whatever, enough people in the game can read me.
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Post Post #341 (isolation #13) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:06 pm

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Unvote vote, Magna

Invict Sila
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Post Post #346 (isolation #14) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:26 pm

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Post Post #368 (isolation #15) » Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:26 am

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silavor wrote:Elli, where are all your elliplanz? Why are you just sheeping, rather than your usual scheming? And how do you fail so epicly at reading me? I thought you were better than that. Also, BS's last post feels rather forced. Possible scumteam found? I think yes.

vote: MoI

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Nautilius wrote:Oh yeah sila you're scum aren't you?
However much I loved your haiku go through that corkscrewgearflashofgreen brain process for that hammer for me please. I'll see if it matches with your brain diagram.


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Post Post #376 (isolation #16) » Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:20 pm

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Silavor is townier than shit.
Like, holy FUCK is he town.

Tar's reaction is bad.. Tell me, do you really think that scum are that ballsy to quicklynch on page 5? I mean, sure, it was a stupid and foolish move, but the whole hesitation then quicklynch told me he thought about it enough to know that it would be suicide as scum. The whole "I don't see town ever doing that" is what scum say when they're lynching town.

Willing to sheep Fate on the plan because he never gets shitty plans as either alignment. I mean, he's town anyways, but here I am pretending I don't have inside info <3

Gut is cheeky, Zach is scum.

Baby Spice is town town town town town.

Quilford is town, danceHello is scum.

VOTE: ZACHRULEZ

INVICTUS: danceHello


Fate, fuck MoI lynches on day one. Every time he is lynched on day one, the game goes to shit.
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Post Post #378 (isolation #17) » Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:45 pm

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This is close enough to day one. That spy lynch was funny, but not satisfying. I want the blood of scum, and I want it now.
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Post Post #390 (isolation #18) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:57 am

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NACHO AND I NEED TO HAVE A LONG TALK.
1. Hydra skitzo play – pure scum play.

Hahaaaaaaaa you've seen me hydra before.
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Post Post #391 (isolation #19) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:59 am

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Why are you even lsiting other possibilities and "stealthily getting off your wagon" anyways (He was anything but stealthy). It's a CLEAR case of schizo.
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Post Post #392 (isolation #20) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:03 am

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also your entire first post was stuff that had JUST been previously said except for the NAUTOBVSCUM BECAUSE ELLI EASY TO READ and FATE SUCKS SO HE'S TOWN.
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Post Post #393 (isolation #21) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:13 am

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Magna wrote:(unlike say, Silavor Gut or the others I’ve actually detailed as scum with actual reasons why)

Reaaaally. Other than sila which you devoted a couple of sentences to can you quote over your stuff on Gut and other actual reasons on others. Because I don't see any.
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Post Post #399 (isolation #22) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:08 am

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No, I admit we're schizoing. You saw it happen in that game Faraday was modding, i was with DGB, we were town.
YOU'RE the one claiming that you had actual reasons on gut + co, it doesn't matter whether I think it's pro-town or not.
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Post Post #401 (isolation #23) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:16 am

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Ok schizoing is scummy.
That was nacho's first post in the game and our qt, he's been in MIA prior to it. Him and I will sort it out then.
ELLIBERETH thinks your scum. ELLIBERETH thinks Silavor is scum. I think i've made that pretty clear and I also think it was pretty clear to everyone that Nacho's two posts were not me.
REGARDLESS: SHOW HOW THIS IS NOT A LIE:
(unlike say, Silavor Gut or the others I’ve actually detailed as scum with actual reasons why)
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Post Post #403 (isolation #24) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:17 am

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and your first wallish post was mainly rehashing.

yeah clash of kings.
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Post Post #406 (isolation #25) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:22 am

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Fate wrote:Nacho/ellie stop arguiung with moiscum and vote him


Nacho doesn't want to lynch him.
We'll be QT'ing...but it may be Entspeed.
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Post Post #410 (isolation #26) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:35 am

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The last 2 are after my quote.
The first was said before your post.
The sila stuff is just obvious and probably has already been said...I'll look later.
ONLY new thing is the one on me.

I DON'T THINK SHEEPING, OR NOT HAVING REASONS IS SCUMMY. YOU'RE THE ONE WHO THINKS THEY'RE SCUMMY.
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Post Post #436 (isolation #27) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:18 am

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(unlike say, Silavor Gut or the others I’ve actually detailed as scum with actual reasons why)

^^^That was from the beginning of 388. Your last two quotes with the number lists for Gut and Sila are from later in 388.
1. I said you weren't supporting anyone EXCEPT FOR SILAVOR.
Nautilius wrote:Reaaaally. Other than sila which you devoted a couple of sentences to can you quote over your stuff on Gut and other actual reasons on others. Because I don't see any.

And sure I'm setting a tarp. And you are being inconsistent.
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Post Post #439 (isolation #28) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:23 am

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DDDDDDDGGGGGGBBBBBBB

WHY AREN'T YOU GOING CRAAAZY AT MAGNA NOT CLAIMING?
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Post Post #457 (isolation #29) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:16 am

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Magna
Do you agree with this logic:
1) There was scum off Spyrex wagon.
2) Taking away dead flipped town: Duplicity, Quilford, Benmage, Magna, Baby, Illuminatu
Quil is town because of the Kublai invict comment, Ben just really reads as ben town.
Leaving Duplicity, you, baby, Illuminati
And then if you're town and stuff...and have the sort of town read on Duplic....
one of Baby/Illum is scum.
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Post Post #460 (isolation #30) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:19 am

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Because I'm in a hydra so I'm not me and I have to take Nacho into account and we still have time...
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Post Post #463 (isolation #31) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:22 am

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Gammagooey wrote:hmmmmmmmm so I'm gonna go over a few isos. MoI's reasons for DGB+Benmage town are decent and it has the bonus of frustrating Fate for a while.

can you ask him about why Duplic is sort of town? He won't listen to me probably.
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Post Post #466 (isolation #32) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:26 am

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Because I'm scum and Fake sucks.
....
No seriously, I'm curious about Duplic.
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Post Post #467 (isolation #33) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:26 am

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FATE ISN'T FAKE.
FATE IS....ABSURDLY BEAUTIFUL.
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Post Post #471 (isolation #34) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:37 am

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Post Post #472 (isolation #35) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:37 am

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Post Post #557 (isolation #36) » Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:54 pm

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Check in, I'll have time tomorrow.
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Post Post #558 (isolation #37) » Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:55 pm

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(Elli btw...still haven't been able to discuss anything with Nach since he's nooot around)
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Post Post #592 (isolation #38) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:15 pm

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SILA, ARE YOU MISSING MY QUOTES WITH THE RAINBOW SHEEP?
Nautilius wrote:
silavor wrote:Elli, where are all your elliplanz? Why are you just sheeping, rather than your usual scheming? And how do you fail so epicly at reading me? I thought you were better than that. Also, BS's last post feels rather forced. Possible scumteam found? I think yes.

vote: MoI

Invictus: Baby Spice


Nautilius wrote:Oh yeah sila you're scum aren't you?
However much I loved your haiku go through that corkscrewgearflashofgreen brain process for that hammer for me please. I'll see if it matches with your brain diagram.


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ANSWER

+ the showing up and just going whyyoupullthosequotesofmelolz.
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Post Post #593 (isolation #39) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:25 pm

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Initial skim of Illum posts is that he's annoyed scum at being bashed on because of stuff that is related to rl.
HEY DH, YOU PREFER SCUM OR TOWN?
I know when I'm really and busy and stuff I try to avoid my scum games and megalurk there in favor of my town games...
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Post Post #594 (isolation #40) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:29 pm

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Baby Spice wrote:
MagnaofIllusion wrote:

BabySpice wrote:The last time I saw this exact arguement, it was also based on a rapid lols lynch, was made by scum, and there was no scum off of that particular wagon.


Link to this please. I’d like to see the what sort of game and when in the game it happened.



https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17354


That wagon was on scum with his buddies all jumping on early to mid.
Different story here.
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Post Post #597 (isolation #41) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:41 pm

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Nacho head disagreement.
But he's still MIA
I'll switch over if he isn't back manana.
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Post Post #639 (isolation #42) » Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:27 am

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Vote: MagnaofIllusion
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Post Post #641 (isolation #43) » Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:33 am

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^^^That was Nacho.
Now it' Elli.
And Elli doesn't want blood yet. Yeah.
Unvote
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Post Post #643 (isolation #44) » Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:35 am

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Ok we're good.
Vote: Magna


I JUST NEEDED TO TALK TO NACHO A LITTLE FATE GEEEZ.
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Post Post #654 (isolation #45) » Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:09 am

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MagnaofIllusion wrote:Dear Town,

When I flip Town please make sure to Invictus Silavor. And if you can't do him please do Nautilus or Gut.

It's the least you can do after two bad lynches in a row. Especially if somehow you are on both my and Spyrex's lynch and still Town.

Dear Magna,

Please stop trying to tie yourself to the spyrex lynch. This is not a quicklynch, you've had time to defend yourself. This is not an RVS lynch, there is a case against you. You've had plenty of fair warning about this lynch coming, you've been asked to claim... In other words, this lynch is has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN COMMON with spyrex's. Your ploy of comparing your lynch to spyrex's lynch is a subtle appeal to fear "you guys are gonna fuck up AGAIN", and I would lynch you 1000 times for that reason alone.

Your suggestion for invictusing silavor is boring and unoriginal. Of course he has to die. He jokehammered in RVS.

As for the other two, I don't understand. But, you're probably just in caughtscum mode and WIFOMing it up, although you're doing a bit badly with it. Next time, start the WIFOM earlier and push less obvious suspects harder.

Love, Nacho.
P.S. Die.
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Post Post #801 (isolation #46) » Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:35 pm

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Elli here. I won't be able to be very active for the next 2-3 days. Dunno about Nacho.
Vote: Magna, Invict Illum
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Post Post #864 (isolation #47) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:05 am

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(Fate, you're still invictus voting Gamma. I think.)
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Post Post #874 (isolation #48) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:13 am

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Only Magna, Illum, and Duplic are left in the off Spyspy wagon list. We can burn TWO of them guyz.
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Post Post #878 (isolation #49) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:20 am

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I'm at work now...but for you...I'll do the relevant bit.

SpyreX (LYNCH) ~ Nautilius, Zachrulez, Tarhalindur, VitaminR, Ban, danceHello, Gut, DrippingGoofball, Fate, silavor
Gut (L-7) ~
SpyreX
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Kublai Khan
, Duplicity
Kublai Khan (L-8) ~
Quilford
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Hinduragi

Fate (L-8) ~
Benmage
, MagnaofIllusion
Tarhalindur (L-9) ~
Baby Spice


Not Voting: The Illuminati

Olive is unofficial town par usual.
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Post Post #881 (isolation #50) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:22 am

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By the way guyz: Reminder why Gamma/Quilly is at worst 3rd party.

[quote="Kublai Khan]
Quilford wrote:WHY ARE YOU SCUM

Gonna go ahead and Invictus you now. KTHKBYE[/quote]
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Post Post #887 (isolation #51) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:40 am

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Tar calm down i didn't read your post.
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Post Post #892 (isolation #52) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:29 am

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MagnaofIllusion wrote:Oh look, Nautilus scum is vainily looking for the scum off the Spyrex wagon as opposed to the heaping spoonfuls sitting there on it. :roll:

Can we get on with either lynching scum-Gut? Or hell lynching me so I don't have to listen to scum and DERP-Fate going on and on about how I'm obv-scum.


MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Nautilius wrote:Magna
Do you agree with this logic:
1) There was scum off Spyrex wagon.
2) Taking away dead flipped town: Duplicity, Quilford, Benmage, Magna, Baby, Illuminatu
Quil is town because of the Kublai invict comment, Ben just really reads as ben town.
Leaving Duplicity, you, baby, Illuminati
And then if you're town and stuff...and have the sort of town read on Duplic....
one of Baby/Illum is scum.


Let's see ...

1. Yes I agree there are scum not on the Spyrex wagon. The volume of said scum of versus on to yet be determined (although I lean much more heavily on than off).
2. I'm trusting you on this not double checking your process in who isn't on the wagon. I'll not argue the Gamma as Town due to the Invict comment by KK at this stage. I agree Benmage is Town. I do know I'm Town. That leaves Duplicity, Baby and Illuminati.

My sorta Town read on Duplicity doesn't remove them at this stage. So yes, wagon analysis says that scum is in Duplicity, Baby, Illuminati.

Your point? I'm not voting on PoE Day 2 when we have active scummy players (like Silavor) floating around. I like VC Analysis but it's not everything, especially before scum flips.


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Post Post #894 (isolation #53) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:42 am

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There's also more people on the wagon.
1/3 with invictus AND lynch? I'll take it.
Tata.
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Post Post #939 (isolation #54) » Thu Jul 14, 2011 6:20 pm

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We are happy with the direction everything is going.
I think this is why we play mafia: because it is nothing like the real world...
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Post Post #1029 (isolation #55) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:54 pm

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VOTE: ZACHRULEZ


Magna, if you really care that much about looking for scum on the SpyreX wagon, how about this one? Scum gets on Spy's early wagon with a semi-serious chuckle, then takes it to the bank and tries to catch on silavor mislynch the next day, they call him Zachrulez. See him skim, see him skate, but never see him post strong content when it doesn't have to do with defense...

This is also who my heart tells me to murder, and so I murder <3

Sorry Elli.
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Post Post #1031 (isolation #56) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:03 pm

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Gut, join me.
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Post Post #1041 (isolation #57) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:39 pm

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PRIMARY Invictus: MagnaofIllusion
SECONDARY Invictus: Zachrulez
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Post Post #1043 (isolation #58) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:11 pm

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But wait, there's more:

Zachrulez wrote:
silavor wrote:Because scumvor is so stupid he would go out of his way to draw attention to himself by hammering.

Right. Ok then. You keep thinking that.


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Why did you hammer?

This is everything that Zach has provided on his case for silavor. A silavor-town making a stupid hammer like that would be prey for at least one opportunistic scum cashing in on stupidity, and Zach treating this like it is obviously the correct lynch is what I would expect from scum. Notice how there is no effort to explain scum benefit behind the hammer, just a parked vote. Also similar to how MoI handled things, except it's an even juicier action coming from MoI, considering how he was protesting against having another stupid, thoughtless lynch like SpyreX's twice in a row.

Going for the easy mislynch continues with the Baby Spice Invictus vote. Explanation is that she hasn't poste a lot, and that's it. When she does post more, he ignores her and keeps the vote, and later adds on "piss poor meta case" for reasoning, which is shit an is lazy Zach scum giving just enough reasoning to justify an opportunistic vote.

His MoI vote is wonderful for analysis when it seemed like MoI was definitely going to get lynched; he puts Magna at L-1, no reasoning. This later allowed him to back off the Magna vote later when scumMoI squirmed for longer than expected with "oh, I was just voting him out of annoyance". This is scumZach not wanting to be caught off the wagon, but definitely being reluctant to lynch his scumbuddy.

Also not finding why Tar can even call Zach's big defense post good because everytime I read that hunk of crap all I hear is voices in my head screaming "ZACHISSCUMZACHISSCUMZACHISSCUM".

His defense for being on the SpyreX lynch was crap. He basically acknowledges Gamma has a legitimate point, and then says it was too early game to matter (nevermind that Zach does the same damn thing in his ISO #25). The rest of the defense, "I wasn't online", is unverifiable either way, and thus really doesn't tell us much.

His defense for the MoI vote is backtracking; even though he initially said that the vote was annoyance, he now adds that he generally finds that action scummy. However, he also adds that MoI never did anything scummy and the way MoI did it wasn't scummy anyways? This seems like a contradiction that comes from scumZach trying to defend his vote on his scumbuddy without incriminating his scumbuddy. When town votes because they find an action scummy, they say so. There is not all this backtracking crap of "Well, the action is normally scummy and I was annoyed, so I voted. This doesn't mean that I actually ever found him scummy, or that he is scummy."

He then goes on to defend his Gut read, which apparently is
so good
that anyone who disagrees with it is "scum or not paying attention". This is crap and bullshit, considering all he said on gut is "^scum claim, lynch at will".

His conclusion about Gamma's "big, damning looking" case shows that Zach is intimidated by the size of the case on it, and is pretty damn scummy considering the thing isn't that long in the first place.

OH LOOK I ACCIDENTALLY WROTE A WALL GUESS IM TOWN, EH TAR?
HEHEHEHEHEHE
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Post Post #1044 (isolation #59) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:13 pm

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Fate wrote:THAT'S,

NOT,

A.


MOI

VOTE.

Don't you tell me what to do. Town obviously doesn't have the balls to lynch Magna just yet. So we kill a buddy who won't vote him, INVICTEROUS Magna, and then this game is broken like a Pinata.

DONT YOU LIKE PINATAS?
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Post Post #1045 (isolation #60) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:20 pm

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see i posted at 11:11

and i made a wish

that fate would read my post, and vote zach and invict magna
and that we could all fly into the sun and eat popcorn and color in coloring books
and that scum could die and die and die

don't you want to make my wish to come true, SERAPHIM WHO IS BROWSING THE FORUM AND WHO BETTER GET ON ILLUMISCUM AND POST?

there is glory in bussing two partners at once, you know.
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Post Post #1050 (isolation #61) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:50 pm

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GAMMA don't forget your promise.

VITAMIN show us your mettle and FINISH HIM.

Zach can appear in the middle of things if he wants, but it will only be for comedic value...
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Post Post #1053 (isolation #62) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:25 pm

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PEOPLE WHO CAN HAMMER:

Vitamin, Tar, Magna, Ban, Benmage, Duplicity

We will be lynching from the offwagon pool tomorrow, so hurry up and cash in on immunity from tomorrow's lynch.
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Post Post #1056 (isolation #63) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:07 pm

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Magna is being Mass Invicted during the night.

So in hammering right now, you not only guarantee Magna's death (or out scum doc and make your gamma argument that much stronger), but you take yourself out of tomorrow's lynching pool and make sure Ben/Dupe stay in it.
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Post Post #1059 (isolation #64) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:42 pm

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Tar, all you've done is moved your vote from one person that isn't getting lynched today to another person that isn't getting lynched today.

So, if you truly believe that all of this is WRONG and BAD and LEADING TO OUR IMMINENT DOOMS, you have two options:

1) Hammering. Odds are that the Zach lynch is going through today. It is getting close to deadline, and there are plenty of people left who will have to refuse to hammer before the lynch can be diffused. It's also going to be hard getting the entire town to switch again, considering DGB's scumputer won't let her leave the wagon, Fate is done with switching and switching, and my damned insistence on this Zach lynch. So, if Zach is town, you hammering is only fast-forwarding the day, and bringing us to tomorrow where you will have more voice. If Zach is scum, you are taking away towncred glory from scumbuddies, which is an amazing a good thing and will increase our accuracy in tomorrow's lynch.

2) Actually responding to my case against Zach.

If your response to
Nautilius wrote:But wait, there's more:

Zachrulez wrote:
silavor wrote:Because scumvor is so stupid he would go out of his way to draw attention to himself by hammering.

Right. Ok then. You keep thinking that.


WIFOM

Why did you hammer?

This is everything that Zach has provided on his case for silavor. A silavor-town making a stupid hammer like that would be prey for at least one opportunistic scum cashing in on stupidity, and Zach treating this like it is obviously the correct lynch is what I would expect from scum. Notice how there is no effort to explain scum benefit behind the hammer, just a parked vote. Also similar to how MoI handled things, except it's an even juicier action coming from MoI, considering how he was protesting against having another stupid, thoughtless lynch like SpyreX's twice in a row.

Going for the easy mislynch continues with the Baby Spice Invictus vote. Explanation is that she hasn't poste a lot, and that's it. When she does post more, he ignores her and keeps the vote, and later adds on "piss poor meta case" for reasoning, which is shit an is lazy Zach scum giving just enough reasoning to justify an opportunistic vote.

His MoI vote is wonderful for analysis when it seemed like MoI was definitely going to get lynched; he puts Magna at L-1, no reasoning. This later allowed him to back off the Magna vote later when scumMoI squirmed for longer than expected with "oh, I was just voting him out of annoyance". This is scumZach not wanting to be caught off the wagon, but definitely being reluctant to lynch his scumbuddy.

Also not finding why Tar can even call Zach's big defense post good because everytime I read that hunk of crap all I hear is voices in my head screaming "ZACHISSCUMZACHISSCUMZACHISSCUM".

His defense for being on the SpyreX lynch was crap. He basically acknowledges Gamma has a legitimate point, and then says it was too early game to matter (nevermind that Zach does the same damn thing in his ISO #25). The rest of the defense, "I wasn't online", is unverifiable either way, and thus really doesn't tell us much.

His defense for the MoI vote is backtracking; even though he initially said that the vote was annoyance, he now adds that he generally finds that action scummy. However, he also adds that MoI never did anything scummy and the way MoI did it wasn't scummy anyways? This seems like a contradiction that comes from scumZach trying to defend his vote on his scumbuddy without incriminating his scumbuddy. When town votes because they find an action scummy, they say so. There is not all this backtracking crap of "Well, the action is normally scummy and I was annoyed, so I voted. This doesn't mean that I actually ever found him scummy, or that he is scummy."

He then goes on to defend his Gut read, which apparently is
so good
that anyone who disagrees with it is "scum or not paying attention". This is crap and bullshit, considering all he said on gut is "^scum claim, lynch at will".

His conclusion about Gamma's "big, damning looking" case shows that Zach is intimidated by the size of the case on it, and is pretty damn scummy considering the thing isn't that long in the first place.

OH LOOK I ACCIDENTALLY WROTE A WALL GUESS IM TOWN, EH TAR?
HEHEHEHEHEHE


is

Tarhalindur wrote:
Nautilius wrote:PEOPLE WHO CAN HAMMER:

Vitamin, Tar, Magna, Ban, Benmage, Duplicity

We will be lynching from the offwagon pool tomorrow, so hurry up and cash in on immunity from tomorrow's lynch.


Yeah no. Not hammering a player who I think is *much* less likely to be scum than, say, MoI/Benmage/Duplicity/you/Gamma.

Besides, you just guaranteed that Magna will hammer once he gets to the thread, so...


then you're not really going to convince anyone, or even look like you're convincing anyone.
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Post Post #1060 (isolation #65) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:45 pm

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Also, why do you feel lynching you will make all the stars align and everything just go good and proper and nice? I've seen people sacrifice themselves for the sake of saving the town before, but all that seems to happen is they get lynched, then the town loses.

I'm also unsure why you're unwilling to lynch someone who possibly might be town, but 100% willing to lynch someone who is town.
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Post Post #1076 (isolation #66) » Sat Jul 16, 2011 4:55 am

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Fate is toying with my emotions, but I will not succumb to a man who pays attention to everyone thirsting for his attention. Not with a scumbag on the line, anyways.

I will bullet a case for benmage's lazy ass eventually, but I want a computer for that.

Invictusing whoever is pretty damn tempting, but I would rather send in the troops on magna first.

Also, was thinking about tar's gamma suspicion, and have chalked it up to paranoia. If Hindu didn't bodyguard scumbulletproofgamma, then it would've resulted in a failed invictus + KK death. This would not have made gamma look good at all, considering KK's postings. Far more likely is that scum were playing conservatively and aimed for the safe kill, which backfired with Hindu's sexy bodyguard.
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Post Post #1077 (isolation #67) » Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:14 am

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And hell, since I'm feeling generous:

We're mass invictusing since MoI is being defending by scum as either a scummy townie or scum. If magna is scum being defended by scum this hard, there's a pretty good chance he's scum doc, and he won't be able to protect himself from the rage of dead town.

Meanwhile, Zach gets lynched for some under the radar play with pretty much no risky or controversial voting; nothing spurred on from any good insight, nothing at all. He's been attacking low fruit, and went after the moi counterwagon twice with bad reasoning. He's also claimed vanilla/scum already, so this scum can't claim power in an attempt to save himself. Scum will also be forced to bus in this situation since it's far too risky to expend all resources defending multiple members of the scumteam; that would make connections far too obvious.

If we are all wrong and moi is town, then he will be protected by the real scum doc and will live to fight another day. In this situation, we are screwed, but less screwed than we would be otherwise.
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Post Post #1079 (isolation #68) » Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:38 am

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Just as I expected: useless and scummy to the point of almost being a work of art.

A little more and I can laminate it and present it to the newbies as "how to get lynched as scum".
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Post Post #1085 (isolation #69) » Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:30 am

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Zachrulez wrote:Anyone that knows my scum game knows I would have shut down completely as scum by now.

Which will make the scumbags who put horrible votes on me even more obv when I flip.

You ARE shutting down. Unless you honestly believe that "I would've given up by now if I were scum" is a defense?
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Post Post #1086 (isolation #70) » Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:32 am

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Fate wrote:ZACH YOU WILL VOTE MOI OR YOU WILL DIE.

ELLIE YOU'RE WRONG

SCUM BEING DEFENDED BY TOWN IS WHAT'S FUCKING THIS GAME ALL UP

I agree.
Now tell me which one of us is attacking and which one is defending.
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Post Post #1183 (isolation #71) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:03 pm

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Why the FUCK can't this town lynch anybody?

Illuminati, MoI is fucking dying. He's not dying by lynch. He's dying by guns and bullets and justice.

Zach is the only lynch I care about. Will hammer on sight.
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Post Post #1224 (isolation #72) » Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:10 am

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Vote: Duplicity


DGB is scum...
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Post Post #1258 (isolation #73) » Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:38 pm

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Which Rts?
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Post Post #1291 (isolation #74) » Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:17 pm

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Ordered claim is bad, popcorn is good.
We will go first with popcorn.
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Post Post #1306 (isolation #75) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:32 pm

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Zachrulez wrote:
Vote: Gut


I can't accept that hypo town gut would still be alive in context of what happened yesterday.

Invictus: Benmage and Illuminati


Already claimed, but support massclaim.


Gut??
Scum???
Wut is this.
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Post Post #1307 (isolation #76) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:34 pm

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Off the top of my head I'm thinking Zach and Illum are scum.
Maybe DGB but I think she attacked Duplic pretty early so bleh.
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Post Post #1313 (isolation #77) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:16 am

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Wait
why DON'T we come out as scum too from DGB's thing.
>.>
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Post Post #1320 (isolation #78) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:43 am

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~Anytime, Anywhere~
Vote: Zach


(pssst, DGB, tell him to go next in the MC while we're at it)
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Post Post #1322 (isolation #79) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:46 am

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oh
whoops
forgot
NVM, DGB CHOOSE SOMEONE ELSE
LIKE ILLUM
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Post Post #1351 (isolation #80) » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:16 am

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We're vanlla invictus
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Post Post #1366 (isolation #81) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:00 am

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Claim
next post
go
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Post Post #1372 (isolation #82) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:54 am

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LOL
SCUM
DIE
VOTE:AMRUN
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Post Post #1427 (isolation #83) » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:51 pm

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Hi
Fate we're town
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Post Post #1430 (isolation #84) » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:57 pm

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Reference blahblah

SpyreX (LYNCH) ~ Nautilius, Zachrulez, Tarhalindur, VitaminR, Ban, danceHello, Gut, DrippingGoofball, Fate, silavor
Gut (L-7) ~ SpyreX, Kublai Khan, Duplicity
Kublai Khan (L-8) ~ \Quilford, Hinduragi
Fate (L-8) ~ Benmage, MagnaofIllusion
Tarhalindur (L-9) ~ Baby Spice
(Minimum L-10)

Not Voting: The Illuminati

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MagnaofIllusion (L-1) ~ Fate, Tarhalindur, VitaminR, silavor, danceHello, Gut, Gammagooey, Nautilius
silavor (L-4) ~ Duplicity, Benmage, MagnaofIllusion, Ban, Baby Spice
The Illuminati (L-8) ~ DrippingGoofball
Gut (L-8) ~ Zachrulez
(Minimum L-9)

Not Voting: The Illuminati

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silavor (LYNCH) ~ Duplicity, Benmage, MagnaofIllusion, Ban, Baby Spice, The Illuminati, Zachrulez, Gammagooey, Fate
MagnaofIllusion (L-4) ~ Tarhalindur, VitaminR, silavor, Gut, Nautilius
The Illuminati (L-8) ~ DrippingGoofball
(Minimum L-9)

Not Voting: danceHello

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Gut (L-1) ~ Zachrulez, The Illuminati, Benmage, MagnaofIllusion, DrippingGoofball, Duplicity
MagnaofIllusion (L-2) ~ Fate, VitaminR, Tarhalindur, Nautilius, Gut
VitaminR (L-6) ~ Ban
Zachrulez (L-6) ~ Gammagooey
(Minimum L-7)

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Zachrulez (L-1) ~ Nautilius, Gut, The Illuminati, Gammagooey, DrippingGoofball, Duplicity
MagnaofIllusion (L-5) ~ VitaminR, Fate
Gut (L-5) ~ Zachrulez, MagnaofIllusion
Talihandur (L-6) ~ Benmage
Duplicity (L-6) ~ Ban
Gammagooey (L-6) ~ Tarhalindur
(Minimum L-7)

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Duplicity (LYNCH) ~ Ban, Tarhalindur, VitaminR, Fate, Gut, Nautilius, Gammagooey
Gut (L-1) ~ DrippingGoofball, MagnaofIllusion, Zachrulez, The Illuminati, Benmage, Duplicity

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Amrun (LYNCH) ~ Gammagooey, Fate, DrippingGoofball, Nautilius, Benmage, Tarhalindur
Benmage (L-5) ~ Amrun
Gut (L-5) ~ Zachrulez
(Minimum L-6)

Not Voting: Ban, Gut
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Post Post #1432 (isolation #85) » Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:00 pm

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Yeah Fate, we totes killed every suspicious person except for us.
I was even thinking that the NK's aren't scum kills at a certain point but apparently they are...

BAN'S CLAIM: HE TRACKED BEN TO YOU.
K
NOT IN THE MOOD TO THINK ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW.
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Post Post #1434 (isolation #86) » Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:02 pm

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FATE YOU KNOW MY SCUMMETA
YOU KNOW NACHO'S SCUMMETA
IS THIS IT?
NO IT'S NOT.

wtf is jungle republic
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Post Post #1437 (isolation #87) » Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:06 pm

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Duplicity (LYNCH) ~ Ban, Tarhalindur, VitaminR, Fate, Gut, Nautilius, Gammagooey
Gut (L-1) ~ DrippingGoofball, MagnaofIllusion, Zachrulez, The Illuminati, Benmage, Duplicity

DGB/Ben

Yeah, that's all I could get from eyeballing.
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Post Post #1510 (isolation #88) » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:18 pm

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NKs aren't setting off alarms at all? No?

Thought not.

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