NY 170: Georgetown II (Game Over)
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Oh. I was using the standard 1:3 ratio.In post 1673, Zdenek wrote:We *know* that there are 3 scum from the Role PMs in the first post.Bulbazak is so town that everytime someone votes him Mastin coughs blood.- Nachomamma8, Maniacal Street Mafia
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Ah yes, that's very much like what you've said here:In post 1676, Zdenek wrote:A townie response could have been anything along the lines of: I am going to evaluate the slot using whatever information I have, and if I decide that someone else is a better lynch, of course I'll move my vote.I think ABR is scum. Do I think he could have been scum deciding to lurk - of course.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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When you think you've found scum, pride tends to get in the way.In post 1675, Chevre wrote:Zdenek Re: 1670 - Isn't that a Catch-22? How could he have responded to you in a way that wouldn't seem scummy?
I don't think Zdenek is necessarily scummy for pushing me here, though he's certainly wrong.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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That's how I feel too.
Zdenek: Your "ideal" response isn't really anything more than what inHim said. He is using what he knows to evaluate the slot. ABR is an integral part of that slot, just as emogirl and Tony PF are facets of the slot now held by Nero Cain. I'm not really suspicious of Nero Cain, but the things the replaced players have done still hold weight and I would vote Nero Cain for those things.
However,Vote: kabooooom. I've mentioned my evidence before, and it's most strongly on that self-vote, but I also recall the pregame interaction between emogirl/Garmr/kabooooom. I feel like this theory is near the point of conspiracy since none of them are dead, but there was a giddiness to that early play, it seems like the scumteam by some chance were the first few players to confirm and thus their groupedness led to those interactions? Like I said, pretty farfetched, and useless if one of them flips town, but I have suspicions on all three and it just feels right.
Finally, if anyone is voting ABR over kabooooom simply because it is lurker slot, note this: ABR has asked for replacement (though with the increasing length of the game replace-ins aren't occurring as frequently). Meanwhile, kabooooom has not despite strings of V/LA with no contribution and even acknowledging his own inability to keep up. I understand that you may have true suspicion on ABR behind your vote, but if it's simply a vote to thin the lurker population in this game, there are better options than someone who is in the queue of replacement.There will be no kisses tonight
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I actually agree with this.In post 1657, Zdenek wrote:
Getting the number of scum oh so very wrong.In post 1655, Bulbazak wrote:
I didn't see a towntell. I saw a contradictory stance and opportunistic behavior.In post 1653, Zdenek wrote:Oh, I forgot to mention it before. Shroomish towntold big in that post. Scum will have to NK him.
More neutral on Zed's vote though. I wanted InHim yesterday, and he's bad, yes, but I don't think he's a good option today.
Kaboom vote move is interesting.
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Because there is irrational resistance to his lynch without a strong defense.In post 1681, emeraldemon wrote:Aegor, why do you want to lynch ABR?Currently partying at the-- a Large Normal for 21 revelers.M A S Q U E R A D E-
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*Looks at the opening of d2*In post 1683, Aegor wrote:
Because there is irrational resistance to his lynch without a strong defense.In post 1681, emeraldemon wrote:Aegor, why do you want to lynch ABR?
*Looks at current state of the wagon*
*Looks at Aegor's post again*
Bulbazak is so town that everytime someone votes him Mastin coughs blood.- Nachomamma8, Maniacal Street Mafia
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I do not like ZD's post here like at all 'cause this is the EXACT same silliness we had from Slan on d1. Could ZD be scum shadowing confirmed town? Maybe.In post 1677, Bulbazak wrote:
Oh. I was using the standard 1:3 ratio.In post 1673, Zdenek wrote:We *know* that there are 3 scum from the Role PMs in the first post.
Its Bulb's post that makes me want Bulb blood. Here he says that he was following the 1:3 ratio and yet...
yet he did not think that earlier.In post 1505, Nero Cain wrote:
^^^^^^In post 171, Bulbazak wrote:. I, for example, thought mountainous games were games wheretown outnumbered scum by a larger amount than the typical 1:3 ratio.
this has me worrying about Bulb 'cause I think its fairly common knowledge that mountainous=no power but for someone that HAS played in a mountainous game this seems fairly obtuse.
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You're point about me is silly. I'm not "shadowing confirmed town." I am arguing that HighShroomish is probably town for getting the setup wrong. This has no bearing on my own alignment. If that's what you mean by shadowing confirmed town, then I'd love for you to tell me what my scum motivation is.
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Except the term "mountainous" was never used in the advertising of this game. This game was advertised as "all vanilla". If you remember, Voided only advertised his game as "nightless mountainous", and he also talked about how badly the scum were outnumbered, which was why I wanted to play (I really wanted to draw scum that game.). At no point was the exact definition of mountainous explained, and I correlated the word with Voided's explanation of the scumteam being radically outnumbered. It wasn't until d1 of this game that the term was explained to mean "all vanilla", and of course, I expressed my confusion over the term. At no point in this game was I assuming anything other than a 1:3 ratio.In post 1687, KoreanBBQ wrote:
I do not like ZD's post here like at all 'cause this is the EXACT same silliness we had from Slan on d1. Could ZD be scum shadowing confirmed town? Maybe.In post 1677, Bulbazak wrote:
Oh. I was using the standard 1:3 ratio.In post 1673, Zdenek wrote:We *know* that there are 3 scum from the Role PMs in the first post.
Its Bulb's post that makes me want Bulb blood. Here he says that he was following the 1:3 ratio and yet...
yet he did not think that earlier.In post 1505, Nero Cain wrote:
^^^^^^In post 171, Bulbazak wrote:. I, for example, thought mountainous games were games wheretown outnumbered scum by a larger amount than the typical 1:3 ratio.
this has me worrying about Bulb 'cause I think its fairly common knowledge that mountainous=no power but for someone that HAS played in a mountainous game this seems fairly obtuse.
vote:BulbBulbazak is so town that everytime someone votes him Mastin coughs blood.- Nachomamma8, Maniacal Street Mafia
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Vote Count 3.4
Albert B. Rampage (5) - Thor665, Sotty7, inHimshallibe, Aegor, HighShroomish
kabooooom (3) - Albert B. Rampage, Rainbowdash, Chevre
HighShroomish (1) - Bulbazak
Aegor (1) - emeraldemon
inHimshallibe (1) - Zdenek
Bulbazak (1) - Nero Cain
Not voting (3) - kabooooom, Garmr, Matias
With fifteen players alive, it takes eight votes to lynch.
Deadline for Day Three is Tuesday, 11th March 20.00 GMT, (in (expired on 2014-03-11 20:00:00)).
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In post 1683, Aegor wrote:
Because there is irrational resistance to his lynch without a strong defense.In post 1681, emeraldemon wrote:Aegor, why do you want to lynch ABR?
Yeah there are a couple of things very wrong with that statement.
Earlier you said you wanted ABR because that's where momentum was. Now its your vote that is putting him as the lead vote getter instead of kab. So why ABR over kab?You don't earnloyaltyin a day. You earn it day by day-
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Because there is irrational resistance to his lynch without a strong defense.In post 1692, Rainbowdash wrote:Yeah there are a couple of things very wrong with that statement.
Earlier you said you wanted ABR because that's where momentum was. Now its your vote that is putting him as the lead vote getter instead of kab. So why ABR over kab?Currently partying at the-- a Large Normal for 21 revelers.M A S Q U E R A D E-
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What irrational resistance? You mean the entire game saying that at worst he is a good compromise lynch?In post 1693, Aegor wrote:
Because there is irrational resistance to his lynch without a strong defense.In post 1692, Rainbowdash wrote:Yeah there are a couple of things very wrong with that statement.
Earlier you said you wanted ABR because that's where momentum was. Now its your vote that is putting him as the lead vote getter instead of kab. So why ABR over kab?You don't earnloyaltyin a day. You earn it day by day-
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What are you even talking about?In post 1695, Aegor wrote:While not presenting alternatives that are not compromise lynches themselves? Yes. Lynch ABR, then lynch kab tomorrow. I think there are very good odds that at least one of them is scum.
None of the other lynches are compromise lynches. The closest you can call is kab and that's because its in part utility due to him INTENTIONALLY avoiding playing at this point. He still is a really good bet for scum because the little bit he isn't just prod dodging is scummy. ABR is basically the definition of a compromise lynch since its most of the game going "oh yeah that's fine".
This has changed from its original thing though - what irrational resistance? Is calling others scum suddenly an irrational resistance? If you are going to apply this logic to ABR wagon cant you apply some similar logic to kab wagon?You don't earnloyaltyin a day. You earn it day by day-
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The ABR wagon has preceded the kab wagon.
I still do not know why people are not willing to lynch ABR. Everyone is saying it is a compromise but Bulba is the only player who has actually presented a strong case against another player who is presumably his first choice for scum.Currently partying at the-- a Large Normal for 21 revelers.M A S Q U E R A D E-
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