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Post Post #550 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:40 pm

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Hey boys and girls. Yeah, here it is: would really only be content with either MTD or PrivateI lynches today.

Don't think MTD's done that much real scumhunting. What? Yeah. Just kinda defended the heck out of zmuffin and scumread Greyice. And I don't know where it came from I mean this kind of progression within his reads especially on zmuffin (boldyyy added to these quotes);
In post 163, MTD wrote:
In post 161, GreyICE wrote:
In post 149, Dessew wrote:Because I'm slow, I guess, and thus I don't really get why there's a wagon on Muffin. Feel free to explain it.
Dessaw, read the above post. Seriously. That's what he calls content. Oh, and voting for the moderator. And whining that I'm scum and LLD is a bad player, because that must be why we have a scum read on him!

He's just blatantly attacking everyone voting for him, and trolling. <snip> lynch players doing that, Dessaw. That's how you nail scum.

Everyone should explain in their next post why they're not voting Muffin.
Agreed, he isn't contributing much.

Wtf? He isn't voting the moderator, nor did he ever.
Well, that's just trolling probably.


No, that's not how you nail scum. This is how you lynch players regardless of their alignment.
If I was voting Muffin right now, that would be for a policy lynch and I don't do policy lynches.
Seems to let zmuffin off the hook with no thought. Like "agreed" but nope he's not scum, probably trolling. That doesn't say anything about what mtd thinks zmuffin is. References a policy lynch, and really I think that it's just to set up "I could vote zmuffin", don't even know what the policy is.....
In post 182, MTD wrote:
Muffin's defense really isn't that good
,
however
I like the way ICE is pushing this even less, he is handling it too much like a closed case, not answering muffins points but rather just saying they are scummy.
@Muffin: reads?
He really just lets muffin off. To insta-town read him (or more accurately, not even consider him for a lynch) because he has picked a side. And so from then on he has kinda decided that greyice is mafia and zmuffin should not be lynched. As in the same thing that he is accusing greyice of doing.
In post 345, MTD wrote:@LLD: This:
In post 221, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:what do you think you accomplish with your posts above? you're arguing with someone who thinks you're scum and will almost certainly not change his mind. You're not stupid enough to not realize this.

So the only real intent you can have in making this drawn out bullets for bullets/points for points argument with him is to frustrate outside readers and create apathy towards you and he, so that people fall off your lynch wagon. Very common scum strategy, but very obvious.

Besides, you also stooped to asking "why me" which is death anyway, so.
Is actually the best case on Muffin I've seen in this game, but still it isn't conclusive IMO
, after rereading I think the same could be said about Grey, and even better so.
Why the bold?
It just doesn't look like he's thinking. Doesn't look as if he wants to know who is what and think it out. What he accuses greyice of doing. But more subtle, more.... arbitrary decision making to pursue grey that's veiled by a defence of zmuffin. That's mafian.

Will look at him and dessew later.

I'm cooling down on the PrivateI scumread a bit because dessew did flip scum and two scum on the zmuffin wagon voids my hypothesis from before. It's conceivable but I guess just less possible than I thought before. The unaccounted lurking/lack of content itches at me big time regardless.

So yes MTD then PrivateI

Would probably echo the sentiment about a mara/dessew scumteam not looking likely. Although what they were both saying might be different to what the votes were saying (as in that's the thing - bit iffy on the vote patterns that's stopping me from "lol mara is town") so I'll do some vca sometime.

@shos: like I asked before I guess, how are you reading privateI at the moment?

Wanna ask @mastin a question but not sure what at the moment. Something is weirding me here.

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Post Post #551 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:33 pm

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Sorry, I pmed this to the mod but didn't post here. I am V/LA with tests/papers/life until Wednesday at the earliest.
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Post Post #552 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:49 pm

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In post 550, dopog wrote:Hey boys and girls. Yeah, here it is: would really only be content with either MTD or PrivateI lynches today.

Don't think MTD's done that much real scumhunting. What? Yeah. Just kinda defended the heck out of zmuffin and scumread Greyice. And I don't know where it came from I mean this kind of progression within his reads especially on zmuffin (boldyyy added to these quotes);
In post 163, MTD wrote:
In post 161, GreyICE wrote:
In post 149, Dessew wrote:Because I'm slow, I guess, and thus I don't really get why there's a wagon on Muffin. Feel free to explain it.
Dessaw, read the above post. Seriously. That's what he calls content. Oh, and voting for the moderator. And whining that I'm scum and LLD is a bad player, because that must be why we have a scum read on him!

He's just blatantly attacking everyone voting for him, and trolling. <snip> lynch players doing that, Dessaw. That's how you nail scum.

Everyone should explain in their next post why they're not voting Muffin.
Agreed, he isn't contributing much.

Wtf? He isn't voting the moderator, nor did he ever.
Well, that's just trolling probably.


No, that's not how you nail scum. This is how you lynch players regardless of their alignment.
If I was voting Muffin right now, that would be for a policy lynch and I don't do policy lynches.
Seems to let zmuffin off the hook with no thought. Like "agreed" but nope he's not scum, probably trolling. That doesn't say anything about what mtd thinks zmuffin is. References a policy lynch, and really I think that it's just to set up "I could vote zmuffin", don't even know what the policy is.....
I did
not
say anything about muffin's alignment here. The "probably trolling" is only in reply to one of grey's points. Policy lynch, because @see "not contributing", but I didn't have a scumread.
All in all, it is true, that I didn't say how I stand on muffin, that is because I didn't have a clear read on him.
In post 182, MTD wrote:
Muffin's defense really isn't that good
,
however
I like the way ICE is pushing this even less, he is handling it too much like a closed case, not answering muffins points but rather just saying they are scummy.
@Muffin: reads?
He really just lets muffin off. To insta-town read him (or more accurately, not even consider him for a lynch) because he has picked a side. And so from then on he has kinda decided that greyice is mafia and zmuffin should not be lynched. As in the same thing that he is accusing greyice of doing.
Dat misrep.
Nope, I did not insta-townread him, did not "never consider him for a lynch", I just
as I said
found grey to be much more scummy.
In post 345, MTD wrote:@LLD: This:
In post 221, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:what do you think you accomplish with your posts above? you're arguing with someone who thinks you're scum and will almost certainly not change his mind. You're not stupid enough to not realize this.

So the only real intent you can have in making this drawn out bullets for bullets/points for points argument with him is to frustrate outside readers and create apathy towards you and he, so that people fall off your lynch wagon. Very common scum strategy, but very obvious.

Besides, you also stooped to asking "why me" which is death anyway, so.
Is actually the best case on Muffin I've seen in this game, but still it isn't conclusive IMO
, after rereading I think the same could be said about Grey, and even better so.
Why the bold?
It just doesn't look like he's thinking. Doesn't look as if he wants to know who is what and think it out. What he accuses greyice of doing. But more subtle, more.... arbitrary decision making to pursue grey that's veiled by a defence of zmuffin. That's mafian.
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Protip: Try reading.
I did obviously consider the case, and said I didn't find it conclusive because it could be used on grey as well and nobody (including me) considered the possibility of them both being scum, so yeah. This is
exactly
what I said in the quoted post, just what are you trying to do?
still the same old MTD
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Post Post #553 (ISO) » Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:55 am

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Whats bad in 'letting off' a conftown?
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Post Post #554 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:19 am

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Vote Count 2.3


dopog - 1 (GreyICE)
LadyLambdadelta - 1 (shos)
Ms Marangal - 1 (mastin2, Guyett)
MTD - 1 (dopog)

Not Voting: LadyLambdadelta, Ms Marangal, MTD, PrivateI

5 to lynch. Deadline is in (expired on 2014-03-14 00:41:12).

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Post Post #555 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:22 am

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Post Post #556 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:33 am

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Got prodded

Not gonna lie this interrogation mechanic is really bad

It just kinda kills my will to play until I hear from the interrogated player and that just puts a huge pause button on the game.

Still no guyett, so opinions soon I guess
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Post Post #557 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:36 am

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Hello, that was a bit of a waste of time. I only got to talk to Emp unfortunately as windblown wasn't replaced.
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Post Post #558 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:37 am

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Don't think the cops can enter the game.
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Post Post #559 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:41 am

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Fucking useless fucking mechanic
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Post Post #560 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:45 am

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Emp has you and shos as his biggest town read, myself and mastin are null town
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Post Post #561 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:48 am

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VOTE: PrivateI


Lets do this
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Post Post #562 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:57 am

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So how much of our in-thread requests got addressed, Guyett?
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Post Post #563 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:00 am

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In post 544, shos wrote:Guyette, ask as much as you can. Id like to know their opinion about how many scums are left, and if theybthink ms marascum is possible with dessews iso.
they think 2 scum are left and that dopog could be scum with mara
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Post Post #564 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:01 am

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In post 547, shos wrote:My assumption is that the cops will join the game in lylo or after it or something, or, that one of them is scum, and they will enter the game after 2 scum are down
Apparently not
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Post Post #565 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:08 am

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I doubt mara is scum because of dessew as I said.

I can go with PI tho
he's useless AND bad

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Post Post #566 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:09 am

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In post 563, Guyett wrote:
In post 544, shos wrote:Guyette, ask as much as you can. Id like to know their opinion about how many scums are left, and if theybthink ms marascum is possible with dessews iso.
they think 2 scum are left and that dopog could be scum with mara
"They"? I thought Windblown wasn't in there.

And given your PI vote, what do you think of those reads (spoiler: I like the idea of lynching Dopog)
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Post Post #567 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:15 am

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In post 555, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
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I know you don't like talking

But dopog is town here?
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Post Post #568 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:16 am

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I like their reads

I'm just saying what emp told me, I think they're agreed on that hence the they.
I could move to dopog but why not pi?
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Post Post #569 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:22 am

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windblown didn't talk much on my interrogation too. 1 post maybe, iirc.
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Post Post #570 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:26 am

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in fact he posted twice, two ENTIRELY USELESS posts.

windblown is scum?
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Post Post #571 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:48 am

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In post 568, Guyett wrote:I like their reads

I'm just saying what emp told me, I think they're agreed on that hence the they.
I could move to dopog but why not pi?
Nothing 100%, but I don't feel like a PI lynch today.

Worrying about the alignment of someone you can't even lynch (and who is being replaced) remains an enormous waste of fucking time. Shos, why are you diddling about with that shit?
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Post Post #572 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:50 am

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because if wind is scum then we only have 1 scum in the lynchable pool.
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Post Post #573 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:00 am

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I'm going to assume Antihero isn't going to have a game where we lynch all the scum then sit around arguing with townies.

So why is it relevant again? Why are we scumcounting in a bastard mod?
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Post Post #574 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:18 am

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my guess is that when all scum die the cops come into play or something, as I said.

why not scumcount? we need to at least have an idea of when is mylo/lylo, what we look for, etc
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