Open 577: Hope Plus One! (GAME OVER - SCUM WIN)

[Aneninen]

Later, Rudolph, sorry I really have to sleep now!

[Aneninen]

And wow, yet again I've managed to steal the pagetop with a contentless bullshyt!

[TellTaleHeart]

There's a sense of enthusiasm from town Wake that isn't in scum Wake. That, and he provides much more thoughts, insight and content as town than as scum. Wake has an excuse to being on LA so not as many posts as usual that'd I expect from him, but I do see him as 110% town.

Right...

Please detail these "thoughts, insight and content." What impact would you say Wake has made on the game so far?

[Cane + Able]

what?

no i mean this is relevant meta

you've been spewing vitriol in this thread all day, saying ppl are on crack, calling me dense whatever

i'm giving context into your actions to show that the anger isn't necessarily alignment-indicative

it's for the same reason i give ppl leniency when they're moving across the nation or when they have family emergencies or whatever

Bullshit. Your first post referencing personal details was a blatant dig at me using information I shared in good faith.

GFY.

[TellTaleHeart]

That he was so desperate to sell me as scum that truth became irrelevant told me he was scum, as I am pretty sure I have stated before.

I assume that you're talking about acryon here? Is that correct?

Yay for deadline extension.

This is why the GGG vote from Rudy seems especially curious. We have time, so why would you fall to your 4th suspicion and compromise, especially while acting like you were forced into it.

I'm starting to come around to your way of thinking.

Rudolph has also been WK'ing the fuck out of me. Surprised you didn't call him on that.

VOTE: Rudolph

So if Rudolph is whiteknighting you, what was MathDino doing and how is that different from what Rudolph was doing?

[Cane + Able]

i mean like i'd bite back at you house but i'd feel bad talking smack to semi-autistic trucker

and like before i get warned or anything for this because of this forum's sensitivity to albeist words and whatever

house is a semi autistick trucker

How about just keeping shit that has no relevance to the game out of the game?

and actually this is just flat out posturing considering you wrote this in your GTKAS

Although I am a fairly high functioning individual considering my disorder, it is still a constant source of social awkwardness. So please bear that in mind when we are in a game together.

i.e. you literally said, in your GTKAS, that this has relevance to games future players have with you

so i think this "wounded puppy" act is something i am not buying

@mod: replace either orc or me.

Do you buy that, prick?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

what?

no i mean this is relevant meta

you've been spewing vitriol in this thread all day, saying ppl are on crack, calling me dense whatever

i'm giving context into your actions to show that the anger isn't necessarily alignment-indicative

it's for the same reason i give ppl leniency when they're moving across the nation or when they have family emergencies or whatever

Bullshit. Your first post referencing personal details was a blatant dig at me using information I shared in good faith.

GFY.

If you keep bringing this up I will reply.

I assume that you don't want me to, but if you're ok with continuing this I will

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Oh ok I suppose

[TellTaleHeart]

AHA, I figured it out.

I was just looking over copper's ISO with the strangest feeling that

something really important was missing.

And I know what it is now.

copper, do you have any scumreads right now?

[Cane + Able]

Wait a minute. I would rather not have us be replaced out but orc if he's going to continue his crap.

If orc wants to keep stomping as hard as he can on that thin ice then let him eat rope for being a dick.

- Wake

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I'm going to let your slot figure out what you're doing because I received a PM from house just now which basically constitutes outside comm.

And I mean how many times do I have to say I stopped my line of questioning there?

More than three times is the answer I guess

[Cane + Able]

As for the talk about yours truly, I basically started a new job that's very intensive. I haven't done much since my initial posts here, and I was hoping I could get more of a summary instead of having to slog through more than 900 posts of argumentation and speculation. It would aid me in catching up because, as it is right now, I have no idea what's been happening or where to even begin. If I can get a header on what's what, then I can start working from that point on. This is also my very first Hydra, so it's taking me some time getting used to it.

- Wake

[Cane + Able]

I'm going to let your slot figure out what you're doing because I received a PM from house just now which basically constitutes outside comm.

And I mean how many times do I have to say I stopped my line of questioning there?

More than three times is the answer I guess

From this point on you need to end it.

Now.

Don't bring it up. Don't mention. Just drop it.

What's your read on acryon?

- Wake

[Cane + Able]

I'm going to let your slot figure out what you're doing because I received a PM from house just now which basically constitutes outside comm.

And I mean how many times do I have to say I stopped my line of questioning there?

More than three times is the answer I guess

I asked you not to join any games I'm in in the future, and I encourage the mod to verify that statement.

I said nothing that had anything at all to do with this game.

- House

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I mean then stop bringing it up like you do when you say
-Orc if he's going to continue is crap
-903

Ok?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

*his crap

[Cane + Able]

I'm going to let your slot figure out what you're doing because I received a PM from house just now which basically constitutes outside comm.

And I mean how many times do I have to say I stopped my line of questioning there?

More than three times is the answer I guess

I asked you not to join any games I'm in in the future, and I encourage the mod to verify that statement.

I said nothing relevant to the game.

- House

EBWOP.

[Cane + Able]

I will say I'm curious who Rudolph is, since he says he's played with me when I was both Town and Scum. Speaking of my meta and all this chatter about how I play, you could always ask me directly here and in detail. You know, straight from the source.

Since I'm looking to catch up and get a feel for the new developments, I'll start on page 34, posts 825-849.

Orc saying he doesn't care about Rudolph's alignment in 825 sort of irks me, because generally in Mafia if you're Town you should be concerned about learning players' alignments. I do find it reasonable for Rudy to question why not.

Methinks TTH really, super honestly doesn't know much about this Wake freak. I, I think she's only played with me once, and I daresay she's not familiar with my six years of experience or the way I deliberately change patterns to try and be less readable. It does feel rather overconfident to deduce how I play from one game, but don't mind me, I'm just the dude in the corner getting gabbed about. Ach, Rudy, never be so confident, guy. I know I'm not Scum this game but please, when you show so much confident over an extremely underrated player, it's a weakness to be worked on.

TTH should be asking me how I play as Scum, to be frank. I'm also hoping she'll talk to me directly about what's been on her mind. I'm not particularly fond of all this indirect business going on. At the moment I don't know why my hydra partner is voting: I need to catch up badly. In general I'm not inclined to vote frequently; if you glance at my past games I'm fond of being conservative with my votes.

So... acryon claimed doctor, and there's two doctors? I've never played Hope Plus One before.

Not sure if I should find 846 flattering and partially-correct, or an attempt to placate someone who can be Scum's worst nightmare. For some reason I feel like he's been handing me these nice little cupcakes, where I simply say "oh yeah!," devour them, and promptly look the other way. Eh, I have a habit of not being fond of players who appear to even remotely seem to be trying to buddy me. It makes me feel paranoid, because for all I know the person nicest to me could be Scum hoping to can my ass later on in the game.

Once I get a better feeling of where people stand I can start descending upon fools and making damned good reads.

[texcat]

Misrep isn't a scumtell. It's a "I'm not properly reading the game" tell.

Who even does NK speculation anymore? As Orc says, it's a very safe fakeclaim for scum to make.

All these new rules! What exactly is a scum tell these days? Whatever happened to the easy rules of lynch all lurkers, lynch all liars, and third person on the bandwagon is scum? And I always do NK speculation, though I will admit that it seldom leads anywhere.

I'm giving acryon's read of Rudolph credence because macho doc is a stupid fake claim coming from scum imho.

There is no way he's living until lylo with that out there, and I don't see scum cutting their own life span like that.

Am I mis-reading this? Just because Acryon is alleged town doesn't make his reads any better than yours or mine, it only makes them sincere.

house do you have a finished scumgame?

Please tell me that you are not going to read some old game to do meta on House before you even bother to read this game!
Do you have any actual interest in scum hunting this game?

[Cane + Able]

917 - Wake

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Wondering what you plan on accomplishing when you ask me whether I have interest in scum hunting.

Do you expect me to say anything but "yes"?

[Cane + Able]

I'm inclined to believe acyron's claim. If you're Scum, and you have the option of fakeclaiming Cop or Doc (of which there is two), it makes more sense to fakeclaim Cop in order to draw the real one out. If the Cop hasn't claimed yet then I suggest you keep it that way. That being said, about believing acryon's doc claim, if he gets to LyLo I'm going to start feeling paranoid.

At the moment I am willing to believe him.

Acryon, fill us in on what your thoughts are so far, please.

[Cane + Able]

- Wake

I keep forgetting to sign my posts!

[texcat]

LOL, no, it was an entirely rhetorical question. But here's some real questions. Have you read the thread yet? Do you plan on doing so? I will admit that at 37 pages it is somewhat of a slog. I found the 8 or so new pages today to be a little intimidating.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I skimmed through this entire thread, yes.