In post 2299, Titus wrote:Also why are you presuming 3 scum on scum A but a variable amount on scum B?
In post 2298, Titus wrote:@Keysor, your logic presumes that all PR claimers are town. While I believe you and Aero are town, I think getting full claims from the three of you is the next step.
Since you are the last to claim PR Keyser, you are first to fullclaim.
In post 2300, Keyser Söze wrote:In post 2299, Titus wrote:Also why are you presuming 3 scum on scum A but a variable amount on scum B?
Scum A and Scum B are unknown (we have only seen 1 flip) - but I presumed 3 of each scum if 6.
But there are presumably 5 or 6 scum. If 7, the game would have been over.
But, yes, if 5 a, variable on either.
In post 2302, Titus wrote:So it could be 2 Scum A three scum B?
What about 2 and 2 given the high KPN?
In post 269, Aeronaut wrote:Um I might possible be a tad drunk so I may totally claim my double bulletproofcop-mason role in this post
In post 207, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:You don't think I have provided reasons for my reversal of read on Dragon?
Also, a read and a vote onto a wagon are two different things. PB went against the wagon, stating he was ignoring it and I should feel bad for pushing it. Then he joins the wagon I'm pushing and doesn't explain the reversal in his read.
I explained the reversal. PB did not explain his reversal. There is a huge difference in both of our actions.
Can you vote PB now?
I don't really know why I should vote PB besides that thing he did which you also did.
In post 223, Garmr wrote:In post 181, RadiantCowbells wrote:In post 178, FA_Q2 wrote:In post 102, RadiantCowbells wrote:Spreading awareness of a tell decreases it's value.
I'd rather keep this one for myself.
You would rather weasel out of explaining anything at all.
That is, inherrently, anti town at best.
VOTE: RC
Share what you have or don't bother posting it.
What the fuck did you just say to me you little shit?
I'll have you know I'm the top scumhunter in the entire MafiaScum and have over 300 confirmed scum lynches.
I'm extensively trained in VCA and have conducted numerous secret raids on the Werewolves.
You are nothing to me but anotherhated townie.
I did something like this to crumb a hated role once are you crumbing one?
Oh jeeze don't be asking for people's roles
In post 232, Garmr wrote:In post 227, Bellaphant wrote:@kitty - like what? 'Coz that wasn't it. Who is your no1 lynch rn?
@Gamr, can you explain about your comment on associative before a flip?
Already answered that in my post right after maybe read my iso
Also if you say things like this when people ask you for clarifications then I'm going to policy lynch you.
In post 234, Shazam wrote:In post 161, Keyser Söze wrote:
Do you still stand by your first reason for voting dragonspawn? Or has his defensive-reactions added to your scum-read of him?
Both.
In post 186, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 160, Shazam wrote:This kind of defensiveness is hard to read because it's at the very least anti-town.
Why is defensiveness anti-town?
This question is such a blatant misrep that I almost want to vote you. You chopped off the context, and even in that one sentence you quoted, there is the phrase "this kind" that you just threw out the window with your question. If you are asking why a kind of paranoid defensiveness that causes a player to misread posts and think they're more against him than they really are is anti-town...I think it's pretty obvious. It hurts the town when someone misinterprets what everyone else is saying and gets super defensive about it because it is a) deceptive b) illogical and c) often seen as scummy. In this case, I do see it as scummy, which means it's at least anti-town if he's actually town.
In what way is it a misrep? Sorry, just not getting that.
In post 237, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 234, Shazam wrote:
This question is such a blatant misrep that I almost want to vote you. You chopped off the context, and even in that one sentence you quoted, there is the phrase "this kind" that you just threw out the window with your question. If you are asking why a kind of paranoid defensiveness that causes a player to misread posts and think they're more against him than they really are is anti-town...I think it's pretty obvious. It hurts the town when someone misinterprets what everyone else is saying and gets super defensive about it because it is a) deceptive b) illogical and c) often seen as scummy. In this case, I do see it as scummy, which means it's at least anti-town if he's actually town.
Wanna fight?
Being defensive is not scummy, nor is it anti-town. For you to suggest such things is absurd. People interpret posts differently...that's kind of the point of online Mafia. If everyone interpreted posts in the same away there would be no discussion. So no, 'misinterpreting' as you put it is not deceptive and it's not illogical and as stated earlier being defensive is not scummy.
Eh, depends on really the situation. Like some kind of defensiveness is natural and makes sense in the context of the ISO of whoever is posting, but other times it seems "off" or unwarrented. People who go around yelling "THAT GUY IS DEFENSIVE HE'S A SCUMBLE" at every person who picks apart their own wagon are silly. However, that's a lot different than noticing someone being overly defensive for not quite a lot of threat, eg what happened earlygame with dragon.
In post 242, Garmr wrote:I don't remember dragon spawn being this oblivious in my mason game with him he demonstrated the ability to think I even understood his thought process in my mafia game against him he was logical this feels like a act to play off as dumb
This is the other reason I'm choosing to keep my vote where it is... I feel like Dragon is smart usually and he's just being either naive or obtuse in this game and I can't figure out which. I feel like it's obtuse.
In post 252, RadiantCowbells wrote:Don't really agree is putting it mildly.
If I post my tell here everyone will start being conscious of it, and will make it useless.
Yea, the observer effect.
Where did he give into any pressure? I may be just tired but I guess I missed that happening
In post 256, Garmr wrote:Kling are you town or scum
Solid questioning
In post 261, RadiantCowbells wrote:Yeah, I was making a joke based off of what someone in my neighbour hood said.
Don't worry about it.
Lol I've decided I love playing with you
Sorry for any mispellings / nonsensicle sentences in there. I think I'm sobered up but who the heck knows at this point
Dragon what are your reads right now? You seem to be like voting a hundred times and It's confusing as hell
In post 2304, Keyser Söze wrote:
Ankamius - whose slot I haven't focussed on lately (since he was on the davesaz wagon)
Ankamius
In post 1228, Ankamius wrote:I can definitely see davesaz being likely scum. Just look at 167+254 together and apply that context to the rest of his ISO and it's pretty clear how fake it all is.
In post 1233, Ankamius wrote:167 = Weak reads based on relatively strong reasoning.
254 = Relatively strong read based on weak reasoning.
In post 1234, Ankamius wrote:Basically, I'm getting a big impression that he wants to look busy, but can't find any good reasons to attack people when he has to put a vote down.
In post 1323, Ankamius wrote:davesaz: Your 167 was literally a post giving reasonings for why people shouldn't be null, but are null anyway. Your 254 was a stronger read than any of that off something that had significantly less thought put into it.
I find it really hard to believe that it's based solely on the amount of time you play since you basically vote based on your 167s and don't based on your 254s. It actually looks even more fake that you assumed I was only talking about the two specific posts I mentioned since I originally stated that it was applying the concept to your entire ISO.
In post 2218, Kitty Galore wrote:I feel duppin, Titus, Boon... team
Aero, Keysor, ank.... team
have no idea on hermit.