WiFom City: Don't Trust Titus - GAME OVER

[Banana Frog]

you're not starting from scratch; i was scumreading your predecessor too. anyway, scum can fake a reaction test too.

--P

[Warped]

Ronit has an unconventional playstyle that's going to be hard to read. The reaction test is null for me. But the wagon seems to be built around Bulbazoor's posting which I'm townreading. I posted my reasons here. I went over his ISO again with Grat's flip in mind. During D1, he was in the pro-Klingon/anti-Grat camp. He scumreads Grat and Grib, strongly argues against Klingon's lynch even with Grat in the lynchpool. It doesn't look like bussing because he doesn't have much to gain by defending Klingon and going after Grat, and he's not the one who'd receive towncred because several others expressed suspicion of Grat. He also treats Grat just like any other lurker with no special treatment. The one reservation I had is his accusing Grat of hopping on his (Bulba's) wagon and then a short time later being concerned about the Grat wagon. But I find that reasonable as one of his scumreads (Banana Frog) had jumped on the wagon and it's reasonable to re-evaluate when that happens. His post to Banana Frog here also doesn't give him much to go on if Grat flips scum since he phrased it like he thought Banana Frog was jumping on a mislynch, not bussing which would have been what scum would post. He votes Grat and later Grib both of which he had as scumreads. Ronit voters need to explain why they are voting there.

Oversoul is the clear choice for me. Adding to my initial concerns on him, the self-vote was ridiculously scummy and reads as a "whee, look at me not bothered by my wagon" move. As scum, when he's run up, he has to do

something

and instead of posting content decides to try a lazy WIFOM move because he just can't be bothered to tryhard when it seems like he's going to be eventually lynched anyways. His excuse of not having the time or desire to play mafia is rubbish. In a recently completed game as town, he replaced in Aug 17th, and made ~100 posts in a 9 day period ending with his lynch on Aug 26th. Most of it was heavily involved and in-depth content with "controversial" opinions. As a disclaimer, he self-voted there too but that was a hammer and the mindset was entirely different. In this game he made ~100 posts over a 45 day period (Aug 1st to Sep 15th), and a lot of his posts involved below-the-radar sheeping of various players and no real effort to figure the game out. His defense of Grat/Honeybee is odd and while people may argue if scum would actually do that (they'd do it for WIFOM), I don't see any reason why

town

could have such a strong townread on Grat/Honeybee and the read seems to have been done to both defend a partner and if that fails, to create WIFOM.

VOTE: Oversoul

[Prolapsed Brain]

I would be pleased to vote for singer, Oversoul, or ronit.

[pisskop]

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Not feeling oversoul. We should be lynching somebody obvious right now.

VOTE: Quoth
or
VOTE: Singer
or
VOTE: TheBlueBlur

[Banana Frog]

ugh i know i keep bouncing back and forth between my scumreads but Warped has some good points and I don't mind giving the new guy a chance to settle in, even though I didn't really like his entrance or see what he's going to get out of it. My read on ronit is somewhat prejudiced by ongoing, so maybe it'll be better to wait until he's done more worth talking about here.

I remember that before my cat died I was wanting to re-evaluated bulba because I was starting to worry about confirmation bias but then I never got round to it. I'm still having trouble with my attention span but soon I hope to be able to ISO dive people properly.

VOTE: Oversoul L-4

--P

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Also --- I have actually been suspicious of oversouls slot since the beginning of the game, kind of in an early scum read sort of the way. The current wagon cries "policy lynch" though, which probably means we had hit something when making wagons associated to honeybee.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

I think warped looks really suspicious with that last post. Walling is so scummy.

[Banana Frog]

it's not policy. we think he's scum. policy would be lynching you.

pedit: walling is a playstyle thing. it's null. i'm a wallposter too usually. i literally can't help it.

--P

[St Constantine the Hermit]

If you guys want to play stupid, go ahead and lynch oversoul.

If you want to play smart, lynch the near confirmed third party VOTE: Quoth

[Salamence20]

Not feeling oversoul. We should be lynching somebody obvious right now.

VOTE: Quoth
or
VOTE: Singer
or
VOTE: TheBlueBlur

Two of those options suck.

[Salamence20]

If you guys want to play stupid, go ahead and lynch oversoul.

If you want to play smart, lynch the near confirmed third party VOTE: Quoth

You have a doc and 2 JKs.

Pretty sure Quoths not confirmed.

[Salamence20]

Why are we policy lynching oversoul?

There are better policies?

[Firebringer]

If you guys want to play stupid, go ahead and lynch oversoul.

If you want to play smart, lynch the near confirmed third party VOTE: Quoth

Okay...

I want to play stupid!

So I should join you, right?

[Titus]

VC tonight when I get to my PC.

Salamence, quote your slips with your hydras and try to limit slipping. I bet you have more posts as Salmance than some solo players. Quote all your posts or I will have to find some sort of consequence. This is not the first time I have mentioned the alt slippage issue.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

@Firebringer

Yes, join me to show that stupidity always wins in mafia.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

@Salamence

The jailkeepers and yourself have already claimed where you have put down your actions for the entire game.

You definitely did not thwart the serial killer AND scum three days consistently.

[Firebringer]

@Firebringer

Yes, join me to show that stupidity always wins in mafia.

I really want to join you because of this post.
How about we lynch Quoth tomorrow?
Oversoul now.

[The Blue Blur]

Spoiler: Dont Open

Sala we need to talk

For now I have some read changes

And more reads

Bulb is obvtown
Elusive is likely town
Pidgeon frogplot maxwell singerobvtown

Klingon and triforce likely town

Oversoul obvtown

And I just realized something. Sonic and Sally share a hydra. Sonic and Sally. Anyone who gets the reference also gets a cookie.

Why the fuck would I buddy someone I know, and Fuck Frogger for reasons that don't matter.

Love you back Sally <3

Hey, my idiocy won you and Sonic the Dating Game, so you can at least not hate me for that.

Also, why did you say fuck about sonic saying Bulb is obvtown, then criticize us for our Bulb vote?

-Frog

Because that bulba vote should have happened 10 pages ago.

~Sally

Matsin needs a prod now for being out of VLA.

We need to talk sala. I am getting cold feet that grat is now town and I think we should flash wagon grib instead. Gut feeling

I will write a case for you townsfolk as well so you guys don't get a shocked

Actually bro, I am townreading the exact 3 posts. Goddamnit!

For me, the lack of self awareness and not freaking out at his own lynch suggests that he's town that has no idea that he is supposed to save his own ass, rather than scum who is trying to get rid of the lynch. I am townreading the aloofness that I see commonly from been town

I'm still sus about Quoth but I can't for the life of me articulate a good reason why. Certain things they say just set me off but if you look at those phrases subjectively, there's really no problem with them.

Im not sure why Blue Blur quoted their own readslist and then told plotfrog (or just Fro99er?) To play better. Also, they just reminded me of their Grat scumread that 'no amount of noobish play would change'. Don't really like.

I have more to say but I'll do it later when I have my laptop.

Pedit: Quoth, you're talking about their request for a roleblock/jailkeep at the beginning of the day, right?

I quoted it because Frog was saying that we had no scumreads.

Id lynch grat over kling.

Grat has to come on and convince us he is town.

VOTE: Gratuitious
Scumread and lots of info can be possible gain. Some people stayed out of it, which can indicate possible scumteams if he flips scum.

G rat is the scum but not klingtown.

For reference

Sonic mainly.

Im sure there are others if I cared enough to look

Holy shot. Did grib come back to defend himself or do something townie(hint: I checked the previous page: no). How is anybody yelling the fuck it is a mislynch? Based on wagon speed?


....

In smite mafia, AP was quicklynch at the last minute and flipped the most deadliest scum

Every single one of those comments are wrong.

~Sally

WOTC HERMIT

im just done with video editing bro. sending you now.

This isnt bastard.

Oh geez...

@Drizzx...why did you imply that was such a negative utility, when it's basically a free vig the first night, and can protect townreads after that? And why would you apologize for Constantine dying if you chose them/that slot to JK in the first place?

I also see I'm going to be fighting this scumread on TBB which people can't seem to understand. But whatever.

vote: The Blue Blurr

Maybe if you Stop tunneling you could look town.

Maybe if you voted Grat you could be town.

Maybe if you didnt vote Klingon you could be town.

Maybe if you stop pulling the laziest tunnel of all time on me you could be town.

Maybe if you had some opinions on someone not named TBB you could be town.

~Sally

I work better constructively

Bullshit

Why are you still off Grat if 1. You know Grat is lynched today and 2. Singer isnt?

If you got roleblocked, how did you jailkeep him?

i certainly see that.

we can only lynch 1 scum a day dude. holy shit. let her get crosskilled or something -___-

wait wtf

Ok yeah. Assuming Grat slot flips scum we'll probably be NK'd. Town will know the next two scum to go after.

Is constantine scum?

In fact I dont give a shit.

Im going after singer tomorrow.

1v1 me

Good luck!

I all honesty, I actually probably am going to get lynched (if not NKed), though, because of my role and how your team will capitalize on it, but at least people will realize you're scum when I flip.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ANYONE AND EVERYONE WHO'S TOWN. REGARDLESS OF HOW I DIE AND HOW STUPID YOU GUYS NEED TO BE TO ENSURE THAT HAPPENS PLEASE AT LEAST LISTEN TO MY READS. I'VE HAD CLOSE TO AN 80% (or whatever 18/23 works out to be...math is hard) ACCURACY RATE IN THE LAST 5-6 GAMES I'VE PLAYED SO IF NOTHING ELSE AT LEAST TRUST I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING NOW.

Wow. Your reads this game suck.

How do I know this?

Because Im town and you shot me last night.

And youre going to shoot me again.

Man, I hate this Judge Character

Man, I hate this Judge Character

me too

Guys. Bulba is the Judge!!!!

Thats why this shit isnt over yet!!!

Who was jailkeeped by Singer last night?

I jk singer last night.
Did she claim to be a jk?
Sorry I didn't read everything last night.

Finally after two games of waiting the tides have turned.

Im going to take you down Farside. Inknow that slot is scum and its going to eat rope at my hands after I deal with confscum (Honey) and SK/Stupid (Singer) and Judge (Bulba/Plotfrog)

My current theory is that the judge is town for two reasons.

A scum judge would be extremely overpowered, and also judge is one of the possible roles for town miscellaneous.

Stop being stupid.

Im suprised Sala isnt trying to ram a grat wagon back together.

I dont see the necessity of a mafia judge, just a player who had a different read on grat. I really wish judges were only xshot to avoid saving sillyheads who got lynched, but meh.

Would not be even a little suprised of cop evuivalent visited grat last night

I AM NOW VOTE

From what I know, the definition of Jailed means that the player is roleblocked and protected from Kills ONLY.

WHO CARES VOTE HONEY WHO IS CONFSCUM.

Its not hard people

Jailing the VIG is going to be seen as an act of scum now since we arent getting deaths here

...

Judge, scum or town, should save honeybee just to prove a point. Don't try to lynch the person who was saved by the judge, without first lynching the judge!

Its one shot.

Shut the fuck up

I doubt the judge will be stupid to try it again

We lynch singer today. Goddamn, rarely do you have scum handed to you so early into the game, but it is impossible to make stupid townies aware of this.

I am starting to shift in thinking that the judge is scum , because honeybee appears to be hiding and not defending herself, which makes me think she knows she will be saved if we attempt to lynch her.

Youre a fucking idiot.

Vote honey bee

I dont

Give a

Shit

Matsin, who cares.

I don't plan on posting anything relevant until honey dies.

or maybe the scum judge cant judge the same person twice so ALL ABOARD

i want to share with you that shut the fuck up and lynch honey bee again

if the scum judge can overturn any lynch in the game then it applies for all players, then why even play?

umm if theres a shitty role like that then we need to call the vigs to eliminate those scumfuck

where are our vigs?

lmfao

So when honey flips scum, what are you going to say?

When Honeybee flips town I want all of your town cards

Then Farside is scum for saying both Klingon and Grat were town.

Its pretty easy

Farside is scum because LG "knew" that both Grat and Kling were town and wouldnt vote either of them

Wrong

I cant wait to dance on Farside's scummy grave

I cant wait to dance on Farside's scummy grave

I can't wait to see you were you are proven wrong.

Wait,
No
I don't care about that because your case sucks ass

Lynch Singer
Vig Farside
Farside flips scum
.......
Profit?

Guess sonic said no Farside.

Too bad. Honey Bee Lynch continues!!!

Got this question many times. I am mod posting publicly.

Judge
You can make a lynch into a no lynch, or a no lynch into a lynch onto any living player in the game but yourself. You cannot do this to your own lynch.

Key language here is a lynch. A judge cannot overturn the same lynch twice. That would make the judge into a king.

Next game, I will explicitly make judge one shot.

OH WAIT FUCK ALL OF YOU.

SCUM LYNCH BABY!!!!

ON TO HONEY BEE!!!!!

SINGER IF YOU JAILKEEP ANYONE EXCEPT US YOU ARE CLAIMING SCUM.

She should not be allowed to JK the vig and Id like to have some private time

We need to lynch Quoth

The flip will tell the whole story

Then you get voted tomorrow for assisting scum.

lol at the blue blur.
I thought I got mad during some games, you take the cake mate.

Its like if titus came in the thread and said honey is scum and no one would listen and would vote other people.

My anger is justified. I want to lynch scum

Now vote Quoth

VOTE HONEY YOU FUCK

Mafia > SK

Personally, i hope we can get some lurker/JK kills

I hope if Quoth is SK he kills Farside/Singer/Me just to make this game barable

Given that WE HAVE HAD 2 NO KILLS, Im willing to let the sk murder people.

I hope if Quoth is SK he kills Farside/Singer/Me just to make this game barable

Can I die first so I can witness your attitude when I flip town?
That'd be awesome

You get rope later I promise.

Maybe you should stop acting like a fuckwit and vote Honey and get this day over with.

Theres too many lurkers and a lack of motivation from mostly everyone. This flip and 2-3 kills will cure us and we can start VCA

Killing Farside, Singer, or you would be pro town tbh.

Let them fight. Force mafia to kill the sk later

Or let SK scumhunt

Why I dont give a shit about your SK claim:

1. Youre fucking stupid
2. You said singer was confscum yesterday too.
3. How did you suddenly find out
4. Theres confirmed scum that you want to live.
5. Theres only one person dead and no one wants to play this game.
6. Theres a mafia, SK, and vig, so Id rather get some kills to keep the game moving.
7. Youre fucking stupid

HOW DO YOU KNOW QUOTH IS AN SK VS THE TOWN VIG YOU MORON?

SHUT THE FUCK UP AND VOTE HONEY

Answer the question.

How do you know all of a fucking sudden that Quoth is SK vs Vig.

3 have 3 jailkeepers and my ability to stop kills as well.

So yeah. That doesnt make sense

Vote honey.

For fuck sake

No honeybee vote is a scumclaim

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No honeybee vote is a scumclaim

No honeybee vote is a scumclaim

No honeybee vote is a scumclaim

No honeybee vote is a scumclaim

No honeybee vote is a scumclaim

AND WHAT DO YOU KNOW!?

I hate to say when I agree with someone with a teddy bear for an avatar, but that timing was horrible.
VOTE: PidgeonPals

SCUMCLAIM

LET THE SK KILL SOME LURKERS OR JAILKEEPERS TO KILL THE APATHY.

NOW VOTE HONEY

Constantine doesnt replace out and comes to insult us while he states THE JUDGE WHO SAVED SCUM AND NOT CLAIM IT is town

Die

So if you look at what I claimed and youre not an idiot like constantine or stupid tunneling scum like singer, you will vote constantine.

Tia

why can't constantine just be stupid scum?

Again, singer and Constantines actions are antitown:

Singer: Not killing, blocking killing roles, tunneling, defending Honey
Constantine: Lying to distract from confscum Honey

Whatever, there've still been like six people who haven't posted yet. I'm annoyed that I've wanted to replace out since I replaced in, but don't want this game to end up in a whole slew of apathy with even more replacements that don't care about reading, that scum are just taking advantage of. Salamance still won't even admit that his whole argument for me being scum was that I was jailing the vig who isn't even a vig and people won't see the fucking bullshit he's been spewing all over the thread. I'm just sick of playing in games like this and watching scum get away with it. every. single. time.

Like, I'm still not even convinced Honey Bee was scum who replaced in and decided to immediately go MIA. This is just another thing TBB is pushing like they knew this would happen.

Singer thinks I bussed my buddy.

And you guys wonder why I say this game destroys her scummy nomination

You can't just fearmonger me into all of a sudden changing my mind.

I dont give a shit what you think.

The second I flip town all your cred goes down the drain.

You can redeem it by voting Constantine

good observation

Ronit are you a judge?

Ronit are you a judge?

Bulba replacement seems dodgy

Atum has until a replacement is found to post. I'll be PMing him, since daystart isn't technically two hours old.

This is why I support kills in this game

Well that's a personal record. I've now forgotten that I'm playing this game twice.

Mod, please replace me if I'm not dead. Sincerest apologies, all.

Titus can we get a VC

Yes and yes.

The Goat is being replaced. VC incoming.

Grib is seeking replacement. I have a volunteer. If she or he doesn't respond or rejects, then I will go to the queue.

Atum, Drizzx, and PeregrineV are being prodded.

This hurts guys...

Given this is Drizzx's third prod this day phase, they will be replaced. If they post before a replacement is found, they can stay.

Gratuitous has requested replacement. Going to the queue. If one is not found in 19 hours, night will be paused until a replacement has 24 hours to read and select any night actions they may or may not have.

The group dashes out of bed, heading to the center of town. The group drags Honeybee out of bed and sets her up into the noose. Titus comes out of bed, hung over as always. Some members of the town were still asleep.

The crowd gathers yelling at Titus to tighten the noose on Honeybee's neck. Titus checks her messages. "This feels like there's a violation. You cannot strangle Honeybee. The procedures were not followed. Do not reply back. I will not tell you the procedures." Instead of tightening the noose, she undoes the ties.

"The judge has spared you," Titus says to Honeybee, "Good luck."

The judge has overturned the lynch. It is now Night 2.

The night will last at least 72 hours. Any replacement for Little Gumball will have 24 hours to catch up. I will send a pm at the Start of Day 3.

LittleGumball is replaced by Farside22.

Muffin requested replacement.

Please post in hydra, Sonic and if you fail pick up immediately. Ty. Atum needs a prod. I missed that. He's getting one.

Honeybee will be replaced.

So Hermit asked to be replaced and it's withdrawn. Noted.

Atum has until a replacement is found to post. I'll be PMing him, since daystart isn't technically two hours old.

This is bad

So is everyone going to defend bulba or push him to claim judge?

Not scum. Just don't have the time or desire to play mafia unfortunately. The JKs should stop blocking the same people so the game can actually have a chance of progressing at a normal pace before the apathy sets in

Hey Singer/Farside.

Someone else said it, so start listening.

Then Titus is odd as fuck for putting in 4 protection roles and no strongman

Judge!!!

Oh yeah, so no day lynches and no night kills.

Damn it Titus.

Ronit, who is doing nothing and is voting atum

Not feeling oversoul. We should be lynching somebody obvious right now.

VOTE: Quoth
or
VOTE: Singer
or
VOTE: TheBlueBlur

Two of those options suck.

If you guys want to play stupid, go ahead and lynch oversoul.

If you want to play smart, lynch the near confirmed third party VOTE: Quoth

You have a doc and 2 JKs.

Pretty sure Quoths not confirmed.

Why are we policy lynching oversoul?

There are better policies?

[The Blue Blur]

@Salamence

The jailkeepers and yourself have already claimed where you have put down your actions for the entire game.

You definitely did not thwart the serial killer AND scum three days consistently.

Then why is Quoth no-killing

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Because he was jailed three days consistently...

[The Blue Blur]

Because he was jailed three days consistently...

Odd, that doesnt add up with what you just said....

@Salamence

The jailkeepers and yourself have already claimed where you have put down your actions for the entire game.

You definitely did not thwart the serial killer AND scum three days consistently.

Because it looks like we have been.

[Flubbernugget]

Blur with the lack of nk's it may be worth doing an Oversoul/Constantine lynch chain if you really want that lynch

[Titus]

Official Vote Count 4.01

Oversoul

(6): Firebringer, Oversoul, pisskop, Flubbernugget, Warped, Banana Frog

ronit

(4): TriforceP, farside22, The Blue Blur, ika

The Blue Blur

(2): MaxwellPuckett, singersigner

St Constantine the Hermit

(1): mastin2

Quoth The Pidgeon

(1): St Constantine the Hermit

Warped

(1): ronit

Not Voting

(1): Quoth The Pidgeon, PeregrineV, Maxwell Puckett, Prolapsed Brain

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-10-01 13:13:39)

Please correct me if your vote is wrong.

[PeregrineV]

Checking in. If I can't catch up with work in the next few days, I'll replace out. Sorry for the the prod dodging...