Blitz 3: Dead of Winter Mafia - Game Over

[Klingoncelt]

I don't know. Been wondering why Klingy is trying to incriminate people.

Where am I trying to incriminate people?

Either they did something scummy or they didn't.

[Klingoncelt]

im fine with expedience wagon, actually. I've read davsto's thoughts and find myself agreeing?

But you said in post 124, "Expedience is town."

[pisskop]

well thatsfine in theory. in reality youre pushing is biased and it comes off tacky.

[pisskop]

lets take your case on me.

[pisskop]

@Pisskop - who were you imitating yesterday, and was that a post restriction too?

oh hey wats this? imitating?

[Expedience]

im fine with expedience wagon, actually. I've read davsto's thoughts and find myself agreeing?

But you said in post 124, "Expedience is town."

This and what Scorpious did kind of bothers me because it could be scum unsure which side to pick, then choosing the one that makes them look best despite inconsistencies with their previous stances. Should probably look to Scorpious / hiplop later.

[pisskop]

Davsto - Call it gut, but I'm not getting a strong Town vibe. Null.


Pisskop - FAKED his post restriction. Wants to PL me. Lots of fluff in his posts. Lean Scum

The Jester - Reads are about opposite of mine. Lean Scum

lets start with that push.

im leaving davsto in because how 'strong town' becomes 'null'.
im leaving jester in as an example of bias.

Now.
You state I want to pl you. get that data?
you state I FAKED. where are you followup questions that indicate sorting?

[Klingoncelt]

Expedience - The pushes seem contrived. Says my post restriction is fake. Votes for me, tries to get others to. Scum.

What pushes (other than on you)? I will say that I no longer consider your post restriction fake and I consider you town, I accept that my pushing you for supposedly having a fake post restriction was poor.

Hiplop - Declares Expedience to be Town. Says my post restriction is fake. Rest of his posts are short & crappy.
Way Scum.

ARS and TSB also think I'm town, why does hiplop townreading me in particular bother you?

Well, there was the weird arguing over the value of RVS with Silver Bard, the Davesaz pressure... it seems too scripted. Then the push over my allegedly fake restriction, then back to Davesaz, and on to Gameplay.

Hiplop's read bothers me because I'm sure he's Scum.

[Klingoncelt]

Davsto - Call it gut, but I'm not getting a strong Town vibe. Null.


Pisskop - FAKED his post restriction. Wants to PL me. Lots of fluff in his posts. Lean Scum

The Jester - Reads are about opposite of mine. Lean Scum

lets start with that push.

im leaving davsto in because how 'strong town' becomes 'null'.
im leaving jester in as an example of bias.

Now.
You state I want to pl you. get that data?
you state I FAKED. where are you followup questions that indicate sorting?

Are you trolling?

[pisskop]

Are you going to dodge? really?

[Expedience]

Expedience - The pushes seem contrived. Says my post restriction is fake. Votes for me, tries to get others to. Scum.

What pushes (other than on you)? I will say that I no longer consider your post restriction fake and I consider you town, I accept that my pushing you for supposedly having a fake post restriction was poor.

Hiplop - Declares Expedience to be Town. Says my post restriction is fake. Rest of his posts are short & crappy.
Way Scum.

ARS and TSB also think I'm town, why does hiplop townreading me in particular bother you?

Well, there was the weird arguing over the value of RVS with Silver Bard, the Davesaz pressure... it seems too scripted. Then the push over my allegedly fake restriction, then back to Davesaz, and on to Gameplay.

If it makes you feel any better, I made the argument with Bard deliberately melodramatic to move the game forward because I saw what he was intending to do with 14. I wasn't scumreading him more than very slightly at any point.

And I was genuinely distrusting and am still distrusting to a lesser extent davesaz. I also think the way I unvoted and moved off him might have looked a bit awkward, this was probably because of how shocked I was that most of my suspicion of him was justified by an easily observable playstyle trait.

I was wrong about your post restriction being faked, the best explanation I can give for this is my incorrect understanding of how post restrictions were usually used in games. I falsely believed that your post restriction was your secondary wincon and hence thought that you were lying about it because you weren't allowed to claim secondary wincons.

I never really wanted a gameplay lynch anyway, it was just because of deadlines.

Hiplop's read bothers me because I'm sure he's Scum.

It isn't a good strategy to try and link people together like that (e.g. "hiplop is scum because he is townreading my scumread" or "expedience is scum because hiplop is townreading him", not sure which one you are meaning here?) because you're wrong on me being scum and it's going to be difficult to entangle soon enough.

[Klingoncelt]

Wow.

I'll reply in 20-25 minutes, watching the plane crash thing on tv right now.

You aren't acting like yourself...

[Klingoncelt]

Wow.

I'll reply in 20-25 minutes, watching the plane crash thing on tv right now.

You aren't acting like yourself...

^ ^ ^ Meant for Pisskop.

[pisskop]

Please, take your time. but not too long.

feel free to tell me how 'myself' acts

[Klingoncelt]

Davsto - Call it gut, but I'm not getting a strong Town vibe. Null.


Pisskop - FAKED his post restriction. Wants to PL me. Lots of fluff in his posts. Lean Scum

The Jester - Reads are about opposite of mine. Lean Scum

lets start with that push.

im leaving davsto in because how 'strong town' becomes 'null'.
im leaving jester in as an example of bias.

Now.
You state I want to pl you. get that data?
you state I FAKED. where are you followup questions that indicate sorting?

"Strong Town" did not become Null. To put it another way, Call it gut, but I'm not getting much of a Town vibe. Null.

Bias? I'm fairly confident in my reads. I'm not surprised or upset if others don't have identical reads, but when someone's reads are soooo different from mine, I can't see them as Town. More like common sense. Reads will change as the game progresses, maybe he'll move to Null, or even Town.

Why is this a problem for you?

"You state I want to pl you. get that data?"
Post 136: "Real tempted to PL Klingy. Because I think PLs are great and Im a great person."


Post 472:

I couldnt do it voice. mah feelz

Voice? We have a message?

I had a pt.

Pisskop, care to enlighten us?

not at the moment. youre asking either me to claim or out a pr.

My post restriction was faked, but I have one. A serious one

"you state I FAKED. where are you followup questions that indicate sorting?"

You cut all questioning off by saying you'd out a PR.

[pisskop]

Youre still not exlaining why a strong town vibe is a nullread.

What have I said about you and policy lynching since post 137?

did I cut off conversation? how is you asking about my Private Toic related to my Post Restriction again?

[hiplop]

im fine with expedience wagon, actually. I've read davsto's thoughts and find myself agreeing?

But you said in post 124, "Expedience is town."

do you really think i am capable of having strong, unmovable reads at post 124?

[Titus]

Official Vote Count

Davsto

(2): Expedience, Scorpious

hiplop

(2): Klingoncelt, Ranger

Expedience

(2): Firebringer, Davsto

Klingoncelt

(1): pisskop

Makoto Nanaya

(1): The_Jester

Not Voting

(5): Makoto Nanaya, davesaz, The Silver Bard, hiplop, A Royal Saint

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-11-11 12:40:14)

[Makoto Nanaya]

I'm probably gonna be asleep when the lynch happens so I'll put my vote on VOTE: Hiplop, of the 3 leading wagons his posts have been the most unhelpful to town in my opinion. If something big happens overnight and I don't move my vote, that's why.

[A Royal Saint]

10 hours people. Need at least 5 on one lynch so I can hammer. Just got home from social thing. Showering and sleeping and reading in am. Sorry got home so late.

Order of preference is hiplop,Davsto,Expedience of the top lynch candidates. Yes I know no reasons but I am super sleepy.

[A Royal Saint]

im fine with expedience wagon, actually. I've read davsto's thoughts and find myself agreeing?

But you said in post 124, "Expedience is town."

do you really think i am capable of having strong, unmovable reads at post 124?

I would expect a townie response to be post blah blah blah changed my mind but instead you attack the attacker while providing very little substance.

[A Royal Saint]

That is an example why hiplop is the most likely to be scum of the three.

[Klingoncelt]

im fine with expedience wagon, actually. I've read davsto's thoughts and find myself agreeing?

But you said in post 124, "Expedience is town."

do you really think i am capable of having strong, unmovable reads at post 124?

You? Yes.

[Klingoncelt]

Youre still not exlaining why a strong town vibe is a nullread.

What have I said about you and policy lynching since post 137?

did I cut off conversation? how is you asking about my Private Toic related to my Post Restriction again?

I'm very tired and you're trolling.

I never said a strong townread is null. I did say that a NOT strong townread is null.

Too tired to ISO, we'll be in Night when I wake up. Find what you're looking for yourself, please.

Yes, you cut off conversation. You said you'd out a PR.

[hiplop]

im fine with expedience wagon, actually. I've read davsto's thoughts and find myself agreeing?

But you said in post 124, "Expedience is town."

do you really think i am capable of having strong, unmovable reads at post 124?

You? Yes.

then you dont know me very well.