Open 616: Fire and Ice (Game Over)

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Hi. I'm conf town, whoever votes me is scum and we lynch him ASAP.

VOTE: Not_Mafia
You're not fooling me.

1 scum found, 3 more to go.
This is gonna be easy.

Best starting post ever!

-Fire (Town Head)

[My Other Head Is Scum]

VOTE: lilith2013

For reasons X and Y. That will be elaborated on later.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

VOTE: randomidget for calling L-1 when it's like L-4

1v1 me irl

Can I 1v1 you in real life?

[My Other Head Is Scum]

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P-edit: Thanks for signing your posts, Fire... Goddammit, just when I thought I was going to be playing a game without you...
[/quote]
I am sorry, do you not enjoy playing with me?

I had no idea, I know some don't, because I take the game not as serious as a few. And I don't create as much content as others.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Okay, this is the town head speaking.
random seems town.
Jester is town
Diego I'm thinking town.

Not too much for the first 3 pages going on apart from people being petty.

@itlepip - Talk to me about DiamondSentinel. You think that this is scummy?
I wouldn't consider that self meta. It's just someone ducking the RVS stage (null tell).

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

you're being less useful than lurkers
surely there is some stuff you could have made something of

It's active lurking.
However, saying that it's less useful than lurkers is an exaggeration.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Just because I've played with them before. They are acting like they were then, read the spoiler.

Spoiler:

They were town

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

We do not play trolling!!!

We do play with a attitude this is a game that is meant to be fun. So you will occasionally see us posting fluff.
But I am much more serious I think in hydras than not in them.

Lillith my vote on you was no serious and had 0 reasons, the "X and Y" was a joke and I wanted to see your reaction. Got a town reaction.
So its no longer needed.

UNVOTE: lilith2013

[My Other Head Is Scum]

self meta is scummy.

Pretty much.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I am. Jealous?

Vedith with his rock solid logic.

Full steam onwards!

Thanks

Fire has no way of scumreading me. If the hydra were voting me seriously this early, it would probably come from Vedith because I have played with him before. Also, from what I know, Fire and Vedith have similar playstyles (e.g, unserious/trolling). Therefore, I doubt Fire's vote on me was serious or had any reasonable basis. --> trolling

It had nothing to do with him not sharing reasons.

You are completely wrong here. Neither of us troll, you just need to be a player who plays here often to know that we try to make the game that little more enjoyable.
Also, if anything, FB is most likely the serious head.
Concerning FB scum reading you, of course he can believe that you are scum, it might be wrong, or even right but he can suspect anyone as higher scum right now.

78 - Man of many words. This also makes me think Diego is town more. I think that the votes are in the wrong place.

I overuse wording like "make a case" srry

diego may have possibly just done something stupid rather than scumslipped or anything, would like to move on from it. so many people jumped on him its kinda odd

Why are you apologising? It's normally a sign of scum trying to get town onside for me.
I like the rest of the post though.

Sharky, do you think there's scum on Diego's wagon?

Do you?

If someone is at L-1 and gives me a decent reason for voting, then I will vote. Otherwise, I will not be voting anytime soon.

No.
UNVOTE: Whoever
VOTE: Diamond

Still on page 4. This is going to be a fantastic game.
Jester - Where's the spam?

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I'm going to be on this account for a little while in anyone fancies a discussion.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Haha Vedith sorry to disappoint you but I'm playing exclusively from phone lately and that just sucks major balls. We can get a lil' bit dirty in here if you want to, though.
As to your question: no.

@Sharky why don't you vote him then?

Oh you dirty lass!
Okay, so you think that scum are sitting by watching? Give them example or reasoning to who is.
If Deigo is town, like I believe, then I expect that there's a scum on there.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Well since I'm town, I think we should lynch Apricity.

@Apricity, are you scum? Just admit it, you'll feel all fresh and relieved after all.

Sell it, as I don't see it.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

In my view, trolling = not serious. Not necessarily a bad thing. I do think you both are not always serious and use a lot of sarcasm, which is trolling to me. In terms of being able to scumread me, I seriously doubt Fire would be able to say right off the bat, while I was obviously RVSing, whether I was scum. Because we haven't played together before.

Who on Diego's wagon do you think is scum?

As I said, anyone can suspect anyone in a game... I've read 2 or 3 posts of people before and thought that I knew their align. Is it probably wrong? Good chance, but it's still there.
If I haven't played with someone, there's certain things I look out for as a general play to help me decide.

However, what concerns me here with you is this.

Also, from what I know, Fire and Vedith have similar playstyles

I seriously doubt Fire would be able to say right off the bat, while I was obviously RVSing, whether I was scum. Because we haven't played together before.

So you are saying that you can have an opinion on him even though you have never played with him, but his opinion on you would be false?

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I can't talk about my other games besides my first. Check out Antihero v. Fakegod if you want to see my playstyle. That's my only finished one.

I want you to talk about this game.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

FTR there is a 25% chance a wagon with 3 people on it will not contain scum, so saying that it probably will contain scum doesn't provide any real insight into the game.

Also it is nice that someone has filled the next policy lynch slot...

Going by % wise is always stupid.
It's how something is done rather than odds.

Otherwise
Odds are that we lynch town today and tomorrow over scum - Doesn't work.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

70% statistics on the Net are made up
~Abraham F. Nixon

I'm pretty sure he died in 2006 before there was internet...

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I believe I've read through one or two of his games, which gave me a general idea of how he behaves and his posting style. As I only have one finished game onsite, I doubt anyone would know enough about me to know my playstyle.

What kind of play would lead you to form a legitimate reason to vote someone you'd never played with before?

I'm pretty sure he saw the game where I was in with you. So yeah, even after 1 game you can pick up peoples traits. I personally disagree, but some people like to see a persons first few pages of a game, compare it to another of theirs and judge. But I think we have hit base enough of who knows what, who can and can't be wrong etc etc etc.
Do you really think that saying it in a game is beneficial?
Hey guys, if you do 'this' I will call you scum, if you do 'that' I will say town...

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Absolutely nothing. It's RVS, and I can't really concentrate at this point.

It's not RVS
Lets get more votes here please...

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I was actually asking from a theory standpoint. I usually struggle to form reads D1.

I'm not the best person to ever listen to on Day 1 (or most days) as my reads are complete garbage, which you have seen first hand.
I play about 90% of my games on here with FB, and I get him wrong nearly every single game. xD

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

why apricity over not_mafia

Do you have a view on NM?

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Fine, someone do a TL;DR for me. I'm a bit stressed on time.

We are on the 5th page...
If you can't be arsed to read that little of a game then I'm not against lynching you.
You are active lurking, which is drawing attention away from the game itself.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I'm sorry about this, MOHIS, but I /in'd a while back when I was dead in my only game. tbh, I forgot about this game until I got the PM, and I'm having a hard time getting in to it.

Now you make me feel bad.

Well, Diego asked a silly question about an RVS - He ended up getting a small wagon.
Apart from that not much else has happened apart from minor departs of opinions.

Lets just start from here. Forget the RVS, anyone else stand out while you have been on?

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

You can replace out if you can't contribute the time. I don't think anyone is going to object if we can get an active player in your slot.

Sharky, do you actually have views on anyone that you can share, or are you just trying to discredit anyone you can?

I don't think it's fair to ask someone to swap out, but it's fine to tell them to contribute more imo.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

@Lillith - Talk to me about Random

I haven't seen you take a step over there for a while, and that is where your vote is.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Don't you go schooling people around. Just swap out please.

Get out of here you scrub!

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

im going to discredit all the crappy reads I want thank u very much
however ill share that my vote on you is well placed as of right now, perhaps you could talk me out of it

Or you talk me into it? Why?
Opinion on Jester?

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

How about you giving your read since you voted on lillith during RVS.

That's rich. You are vote parking on your RVS vote.
You haven't pushed anywhere yet and just hanging low.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Almost like he's trying too hard to lead.

Wrong, I'm just bored on my main so I came on this account - A lot less games running.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

My vote on random was also during RVS. Somewhere on page 1. As I said, I struggle to form reads D1 so he's pretty null to me. Do I need to unvote? What's the convention here. (The way I play, we usually leave our votes on people until we find a new person to vote. Not much unvoting that happens.)

I leave my votes on people if I have nothing better unless it's a wagon that people disagree with.
But then most people dislike that.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

That is not what I meant and you know it vedith. All I meant is that before you say "explain why I shouldn't vote you" you should actually explain that read.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Sharky
Happy now?

It feels forced, but your attitude seems townier than not, so there's that.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Just so you know guys according to meta asp will tunnel me then flake day 2.
I am now joining any games with vedith and jester in.
I'm getting gut scum on lilith. Reminds me of New scum in newbies.

@Lillith - Talk to me about Random

I haven't seen you take a step over there for a while, and that is where your vote is.

-Vedith

Talk to me about lilith.

I don't have much on her.
Says that she is bad on D1 which concerns me as I disagree, but I feel if she is scum, she will slip up.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Well, I read and crap! Hi Firebringer and Vedith

Fancy meeting you here Wanderer

What you doing gorgeous?


Okay, I will stop being creepy now

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Aside: Can we not call anyone noob or newbs in this, it really bugs me whenever someone calls someone else a newb especially when they are not, its shameless attempts at discrediting/superiority shit. We all have varying experiences of mafia, that doesn't make you more right than someone else if you have more.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

DS is likely town I feel like. Seems very open and transparent. Pretty easy to read imo.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

My scum head has him voted. Bad scum head!
UNVOTE:

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Thank you, but again, makes me very suspicious. Last time someone stood up for me, they were scum.

Paranoid town response.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I'm going to put more thought into this game tonight.
I think Diamond is probably town.
Diamond, the thing about multiball (more than 1 scumfaction) is that it's harder to find scum because scum will be scumhunting each other which makes it a lot easier for them to blend in. If you think you can't solve this without a lot of PR's then I suggest you do replace out. Don't get me wrong; I don't want you to go and if you want to get better at scumhunting the best thing is to stay here and just try it. It's ok to be wrong, we've all been wrong before (just an assumption, sorry if I'm wrong) and we're not psychics.

Wanderer makes an appearance!

Her majestic pressence puts the rest of us in shock!
But she has yet to notice Firebringer watching from afar.
He is annoyed, because HE CANT TELL IF WANDERER IS EVIL OR NOT!!?!?!?

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

yes because as scum if i get voted one time i immediately give up and shitpost

itepip is scum
diamond is either really newbie scum "Yeah, might as well", or newbie town trying to actually play and fit in
by the way you gotta spell my name right for it to count i believe

How is itepip scum?
Diamond is not newbie and we covered this.

This reads list is pretty bad imo.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I hope to have time to catch up later this evening. Shit is getting complicated IRL

I await for your catchup.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Getting on the sharky train.
CHO CHO

VOTE: Sharky5x

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

VOTE: Not_Mafia

Contribute

I don't think he ever contributes in games.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I guarantee there is scum (if diamond is scum then scum of the opposing faction) on that wagon.
it hurts me how easy of a target he is

pedit:
cool story jester

Can you explain this further?

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I will not scumhunt because I'm terrible at it, lilith. I know my strengths and weaknesses, and scumhunting, on D1 especially, is not one of my strengths. I do better with reasoning through people's actions and claims. Stop asking a fish to climb a tree. It won't happen.

So if you can't scum hunt for town, what can you do for us?

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

p-edit: @Diamond: I agree with Lilith in that you should at least try instead of giving up. Practice makes perfect
p-edit2: Also agree with itle.

Nice neutral opinion. I don't even remember anything that you have posted in this game.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Thank you, but again, makes me very suspicious. Last time someone stood up for me, they were scum.

I still think the vote should be on you at this stage. But I'll need to discuss with the scum head of us.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Alright we need reads. Anyone willing to oblige?

Why didn't you start?

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

i almost wish i hammered diamond while i couldve, this is ridiculous

That's not town mind set.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Anyways, I'm a tad confused. Sharky continues to shitpost even after he's been caught. I don't know if that warrants an unlynch, but it's worth noting.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not feeling his spot, but caught? That's a bit of a strong exaggeration.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Um.

Do you guys believe Sharky and itlep is TvT? I'm not sure I do.

TvT is always an easy cop out to not have an opinion on 2 people for me.
I've used it but mainly as scum in the past

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

hinobi was scum that game, sorry, I thought I had put Shinobi-scum.

So you are calling us scum, right?

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Also, to clarify on MOHIS, Shinobi was constantly defending me and agreed with virtually everything I've said. It's made me wary about these playstyles.

I was voting you... So your read is a complete lie?
And why no vote?

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Well it was Vedith who voted you and Fire who said you were town/unvoted you.

I'm not sure what I think of them. They're a little more serious than I was expecting from them.

The difference with my solo account, if I piss people off, it's down to me. I'm not looking to discredit FB's name while in a hydra. Take that as you will.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

PEdit: I can look at wagons extremely well. Since there aren't a lot of actions in this game, wagons will have to be the main source of my work here.

So this will be your excuse to live a few days without pressure?

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Also, Vedith, why are you posting each message separately? Are you trying to build up your post count? That's suspicious as fuck.

It's called phone posting and I had a lot to catch up on. It's easier this way.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I actually talked about that in one of my next points.

I saw, I didn't think it was good. I still think scum of you but I want to speak with FB first and know why he thinks you are town.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Not by a long shot. You asked me what I'd contribute, and I told you.

PEdit: It's still scummy, regardless. Also, see that Q+ button? Use it.

So you contribute shit? It may have worked for you before with the attitude of "I can't hunt, I won't try" but in this game I'm going to keep calling you on it.

Explain how it is scummy? And no, I will stick to doing it the way I am.

I was actually hoping that my scum head would have posted more while I've had my quieter period on the site.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Explain how an easy lynch target that gets 6 votes that quickly has scum on the wagon in a game with 4 scum? It isn't obvious why I think there is scum on the wagon?

But why would there be scum on the wagon only if Diamond is scum?

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Multi-posting on phone is terrible and when you're switching between pages doesn't even work sometimes (very annoying). He also has another head who could up their post count if that was something they were worried about. I don't think it's something that would concern them though.

I'm pretty sure FB likes high posts in games. I don't see what need it is? Active posting is not a sign of alignment in any game.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

PPEdit: There are 2 scum factions, genius.

I know there are.
But why would scum only be on the wagon if you are scum rather than you being town as well, Genius.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

PEdit: Your confrontational attitude is pissing me off. In fact, it reminds me of how I've been suggested to play by my scumpartners before on another site.

All you have is, this reminds me of this because *Insert lie here* this reminds me of this because *Insert lie here*.
I have no idea how people are letting you off with having no opinion apart from referring to other players not in the game.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I guarantee there is scum (if diamond is scum then scum of the opposing faction) on that wagon.

Fuck me, the word 'even' changed over night, what is it now?

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I'm agreeing with you.

I know. ^^
Just this Diamond kid is killing my brain cells and I want to try and stay nice.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

My vote stays on you.

Also, you might want to actually vote us if you are making this claim.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I read your comment how it is written, and that says

I guarantee there is scum (

if diamond is scum then scum of the opposing faction

) on that wagon.

You do not mention if he is town...

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I'm pretty sure I did, but to make it is,

VOTE: MOHIS

He doesn't even know who he's voting... I'm now baby sitting him.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I guarantee there is scum on that wagon. That includes town. The parentheses say if Diamond is scum himself then there is scum of the opposing faction. Why are we even wasting brain cells talking about this?

So do you think if he is scum then his scum buddy wouldn't bus him? Or do you think that if he's scum there's a good chance that they did?
I'm just trying to clarify your post as the wording was very odd.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Probably because duppin posted recently so he came to mind first? I completely forgot about ASP and Wanderer tbh xD

Why are you answering for someone else?

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Now he's gone all silent?...

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Random is another, but the other 4 have done nothing of interest, so I don't mind them for now.

and it almost seems like scum are trying to make me look bad.

Same post...
Stop it you guys, stop making him look bad!

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Well, when [someone] posted my wagon, I noticed that he was on there, and hadn't hardly participated. (kinda ironic that he voted me for not participating)

That's just what drew my attention.

You were basically refusing to participate, he is lurking, both not good, but 2 different things.

This I 100% disagree with, at this point if I were scum diamond would be the top people to bring to lylo with me.

This depends. he's a perfect setup kill as it stands (if the killers aren't raising suspicion to him). Odd comment to make none the less.

Only if he is town. I doubt scum will wamt to risk bringing hom into LyLo. From fire and Ice experience, opposing scum and one toen alive normally leads to town win or scum teams drawing.

Yeah, this is where you are wrong. If he makes it to Lylo, he will be labelled as scum very easily going by opinions of today (which can obviously change)

Why? Are you planning to kill him?

Keep up the effort NM!

Might be.

A double fakearoo?... I doubt it, a single fakearoo.

that why you became so active when your wagon dissolved, despite claiming you'll be of no use few pages back? To gain towncred and avoid getting so close to being lynched again?

Yup, his views have completely changed. I still think scum, and FB seems really busy lately so I don't even know why he's reading him as scum.

Jester, these accusations are getting more and more ridiculous. You aren't even asking questions, just accusing me of being scum.

VOTE: The_Jester

Next time, instead of just wildly accusing people of being scummy, how about you ask questions.

You are just voting anyone who points at you. It's a standard way to spread distraction.

-Side note. I'll be on this account for a little while tonight.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

374 Objection! Leading the witness. Err, I mean, that's a leading question with an obvious answer. Did you really expect to gain anything from that? Still scum reading the hydra btw, but I like my vote on Random RN.

He was talking about scum being on the wagon, but implied the other scum team rather than his own.
I wanted to know his opinion on bussing. Not much to that.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Scum has done that to me before when I was town. ^_^

Eww. Self-meta is scummy.

That really isn't self meta. Self meta is saying I do X when I am X alignment.
He is saying how others act when he is a certain alignment, which is even more useless than self meta lol

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I actually don't have much to say about game state that much, been reading up seeing what I missed. Me and Vedith gotta talk more about reads in this, not feeling strongly about much right now.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Prod dodge, will get to this game more tomorrow.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Overall Thought: ProbScum. I can see Random/MOHIS as a team. Likely not partnered with itlepip, but possible. @MOHIS: Can we get more conclusive reads on people other than Diamond/an explanation why the reads are so opposite on him?

Okay, I can see your case on me. Its actually decent. But random? I mean, no. That doesn't make sense.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

He didn't say he thought I was scum. He said he wanted me lynched. There is a difference.

Not much though. That usually implies he thinks you are scum too.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

... Why does a hydra need to prod dodge? Especially knowing you two.

Really?
Wanderer gives prod dodges all day and you want to say this?
Vedith was busy, and I have not been posting here.
Don't go there ASP.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Okay, I guess the question is, are you posting elsewhere? And if so, why have you decided to neglect this game in particular?

Hydra game I am usually not as active as a non hydra game.
Look if you think I am scum, fine. W/e.
But if your basing this on activity, its just a weak weak case.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Oh yeah and if diego is scum Lilith probably is too

I would like to know why on this....

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I will note ASP is playing this game very differently than I have seen him, way more active and scumhunting. I am liking the change, but I am wondering if this is his scum style. I can't remember my recent games with him to be honest.
Will ahve to look

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

UNVOTE: Sharky
VOTE: Diego

The Random wagon is bad and you should all feel bad.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

SO I guess I have some stuff to read.
My other head is so lazy he never posts here. Damn scum head.


-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

VOTE: randomidget
Fire Mafia right here

VOTE: jester
That jump at the end of the day was shady af.

Explain how it's shady. I don't find anything wrong with voting for the scummier of the two lynch candidates. You are just trying to start a wagon with Diamond's insane read on Jester to help it.

WTF, is this a scum slip?

How would you know if he is Fire or Ice?

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Interesting. So Doctor knows the Ice Mafia kill.

Its like you try to look scummy lol

Yes. There is no good that can come from us figuring out who the doctor is, because we as town can't do anything to help the doctor anyway, but scum would then know who to kill. Not good.

Devils Advocate doctor reveal would cause some WIFOM on NK, if Ice isn't lynched today. Both could attack Doctor making only one die, or neither might attack Doctor because they think other team will.

Still not advocating a reveal tho.

Your reads match dead scum.

Why shouldn't we lynch you?

Come on titus, do you think scum match reads all the time?
Not saying he isn't scum, but this reasoning seems weak.

I don't feel like regressing to a Diamond-wagon so early. The guy was questioned to near-death yesterday and I'm pretty bored with that now. Not sure about Jester or Random, I'm going to reread a few things. When my flu passes.

I don't like this post at all Wanderer, seems like weak defending.



-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Hi Titus!

VOTE: Not_Mafia

The fact he still hasn't done anything.
Normally he adds a troll here or there as town (what I've seen anyway).

The random wagon is bad.

I'm not sure what the scum head of mine means with 604. I can see Diamond as NM partner, not much going on between them apart from NM defending him.
However, Diamonds comment isn't an alignment tell neither is it beneficial. He might as well just have said, well ASP died.
I'll get more into this game tomorrow but I'm going to bed now.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Funny. That's what my parents say about my schoolwork.

This is such a lame joke, yet I still loled.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Firebringer, he often are my "weak" reads right?

Also love how Sharky tries to diminish the points I make.

I don't doubt your scum hunting abilities Titus, but sometime your reasoning I just don't follow lol.
I think you can say the same for me too.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Ask titus or either MOHIS head if this is my normal play.

I don't know if its 'normal' for you. I can't recall strongly your meta.

The best memory of me playing with you was in the Gameboy advanced game where you and me had that huge fight and you gladiated on me and you were scum. I think I townread you in that game even after you gladiated. My memory isn't the best on that though.

Right now null on you.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I'd say that MOHIS sounds like a decent lynch if was the hammering vote.

Can someone tell me who the hammering vote was? Because I'd bet that's a mafia.

We were the hammering vote.
Vedith, the scum head did it. I yelled at him later for doing it.
The jerk.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I haven't been paying attention much attention to the game, my gut tells me DS is town though, should run a ISO on him anyways.

I think Vedith was getting same feeling.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

My money's on him not posting any more.

He does that a lot as scum when he's caught...

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Oh and intent to hammer NM after some discussion and a claim.

Claim what? He will either say VT or scum... I can guess what he will say.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

What scum incentive is there to CC DS?

I will bbl.

Lets not forget this btw.
This is scum Titus imo... But I'd say different align to NM knowing how Titus likes to play.

Vote intent is there btw. Just not rushing the day.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

We really should have lynched Not Mafia yesterday, and both Titus and Not Mafia look horrible for that lynch.
But Not Mafia looks slightly worse.

VOTE: Not Mafia

Didn't check votes but I think thats hammer.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Why would you cover for Titus in the first place and please tell me where titus claimed doctor

This, so much this.

It doesn't make sense.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

The scumminess in whiteknighting isn't that you are townreading a player that is being wagoned, it is that scum tries to play off their correct read for town points. this is a classic example of a scum reaction after whiteknighting.

Dude, really?

White Knighting is not scummy. Its a stupid argument. Like, I have been accused for being scum for NOT defending my town reads heavier before they get lynched. This is as town btw, so they accused me of being scum for not white knighting. If you are town reading someone, you should push against lynches on them. Period. End of discussion.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I was covering for Titus

Does not compute

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Its so odd that i have a strong town read on Titus right now, makes me feel like something is wrong with me.
What you doing Titus, where you at with your head in this game right now?

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Obviously I was trying to draw the nk

Hiw is Titus strong town when she fakeclaimed doctor

This! Right here!
Regardless we have 2 scum. Either NM trying to distance himself from a team mate or trying to save himself with offering another obvious scum

No games on my main sadly I might as well make this my primary for now. xD

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Its so odd that i have a strong town read on Titus right now

It's so wrong you mean?

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

He said odd, not wrong. FB usually fights any townread on me. I have fooled him too many time blah blah blah.

ITS TRUE THOUGH!

YOU HAVE FOOLED ME TOO MANY DAMN TIMES!!!!

*throws a chair*

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Or throwing out the only person he can to make himself look town.

Nope, you are scum.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

you'd better start explaining this.

It's already been explained, read back.
CC the doc and not under the spot light. 10/10 play.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

So you think that Titus counterclaimed her partner when her partner was ccing and then advocated for the lynch of the person that disproves both of them?

Quote where NM was CC.
I want to see the exact post you believe he CC Diamond.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Nope

VOTE: DiamondSentinel

lillith is not ice scum

I may or may not have claimed doctor

How is that a claim exactly?
Saying "I may or may not have claimed doctor" is not claiming doctor...

Neither is voting someone for claiming doctor

Neither is saying that someone is not scum...

So again, show me where NM claims.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I already posted the whole chronology. Not_Mafia CCed first. Shouldn't you just reread rather than be stubborn? Go back to where Diamond claimed, then read the next few posts.

I read, but the "claim" you are saying is not a claim.
It's scummy to say "I may or may not have claimed doc" but that's a NM kind of comment, and not a claim.
So, present why Titus is not scum?

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Vedith is deliberately being obtuse here.

Context: Doctor outs who isn't ice scum.
NM: Lilith isn't ice scum.
NM:

That may be

a doctor claim. Give me a break.

You are even unsure yourself, going by the bold...

Nah, I didn't hint doctor until you did NM.

How the fuck is this town?

I am certain the doctor is one of us.

This is scum Titus, 100%
Anyone who thinks that this is town behavior can get the fuck out.

-Vedith

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Seriously, where is jester?

leaning MOHIS or Snarky for one of the remaining scum

You realize their is two scum left right?

[My Other Head Is Scum]

well VOTE: Snarky

VOTE: itlepip

Scum are itlepip and either MOHIS or Jester.

Explanations and which are which?
Jester has been a Null for me all game I could see him potentially being Ice, I don't particularly think Fire.

Right now I am think you are Fire for the way you acted yesterday.

Actually UNVOTE: worried about scum quick hammering in case I am missing scum right now, snarky please do the same

2 different scum teams make this extremely unlikely to be quickhammered.

wait do we actually want to lynch scum right now? If we lynch town then the two scum will probably want to kill each other. If they both miss then we have 2 scum versus 1 town which I think is a town win 50% of the time. If 1 misses we are in lylo 2 which is the worst situation for us, and at best the two scum kill each other.

Okay littlepip is probably unlikely either of the scum for htis.


-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Yes, and I'm not totally sure if I think both of you are scum. I'm waiting to hear more from jester, because I don't want to rule him out yet.

Okay, want to go into why you think I am scum at all?
Cause so far multiple people have said I am scum, yet no reasons given. Its really annoying.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Hi guys, I guess Vedith is pretty busy in RL and I am not posting.

I think we should Snarkysnowman today.

So lets do that:
VOTE: Snarkysnowman

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

fire why snarky and not koggz?

Gut.
He could be other scum, but I am not getting any scum vibes from him right now.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Okay......You know instead of spamming the thread with a lot of crap, you can put everything condensed into one post that you want to say, or at least just 1-3 posts.

Its really annoying to read, especially with your last post Koggz.

-Fire