Blitz 13 - Bad Omens (Judgment)

[Wisdom]

First!

VOTE: Anxiety

[Wisdom]

Defend myself from what exactly?

[Wisdom]

Even if I was at L-1, what do you imagine I would defend myself with against four naked votes? "Sorry I posted first and angered you"?

[Wisdom]

I was actually being sarcastic.

[Wisdom]

He was joking too.

Usted, how come you picked a Blitz for your first game?

[Wisdom]

^he referred to pisskop

[Wisdom]

I was not asking him because I don't know, SW.

[Wisdom]

SW I'm expecting more from you, you're being rather underwhelming so far.

[Wisdom]

I'm not sure MattP was entirely serious there given the lack of a vote on pisskop

pedit: Where do you think my vote should be?

more pedit: pedit is @Lucian

[Wisdom]

I'm not sure, but I don't think it should be on Anxiety.

How so?

[Wisdom]

Anxiety/Lucian. Calling it now.

That feels incredibly obvious if so. Lucian blatantly telling me my vote shouldn't be on his buddy? Meh.

[Wisdom]

SW I'm expecting more from you, you're being rather underwhelming so far.

Yes well, I was on the phone with my doc and am pretty distracted with RL. What exactly did you expect on page 2 anyway and why haven't you tried to figure me out yet?

This honestly looks like an excuse to turn your RVS vote into a scumread based on vague meta concerns instead of an honest attempt to sort my alignment.

~SW

I expected more than a pointless question about points and another where you implied that questioning a newbie somehow meant I wanted to know how to defend myself.

Why is turning my RVS into a scumread a thing I have to care about?

[Wisdom]

Firstly, he didn't even wait for Matt to respond before diving in,

This part is not actually indicative. Lots of townies do that in eagerness of posting.

[Wisdom]

which looked like how a weak scum player would react if his partner got under early suspicion for reasons he didn't understand.

Did it though? I mean, they'd definitely get nervous and maybe even unvote, but ask me to remove my vote from Anxiety with "gut" as reasoning? Pretty meh.

[Wisdom]

What do you think of Yakko? He votes with me, kinda buddies up to me, and then asks about a townread of me.

I don't see where he's buddying up to you in that quote sequence. And voting with you in RVS is hardly an argument.

[Wisdom]

5. Anxiety Attack (ika + SilverWolf hydra) - chosen town

Is this you being funny, or is there something making you think you're chosen?

[Wisdom]

I was merely trying to convey to wisdom that I had towny vibes off Anxiety,

Why didn't you say so instead of hinting to me that I should not be voting them in the way you did? It did feel weird.

Also, were/are you townreading me?

[Wisdom]

I think I read MattP and you as town, though.

Remind me why, please? Is this still gut?

[Wisdom]

Early signs indicate Anxiety Attack and Usted are more likely scum than other players.

VOTE: Anxiety Attack.

Elaboration please.

[Wisdom]

Early signs indicate Anxiety Attack and Usted are more likely scum than other players.

VOTE: Anxiety Attack.

This is a scum post as ustes is clearly noob town.

Being wrong is not being scum though.

[Wisdom]

@ocean I can't read your mind. What are you trying to say in 202?

In 104 you asked why people are townreading pisskop, and in 109 you disagreed that pisskop's done things indicate alignment. How do you now agree with Anxiety's pisskop townread?

[Wisdom]

Are you scumreading anyone? Your vote is on Lucian yet I don't see any signs of you scumreading him.

[Wisdom]

Yeah, I got it, you think RVS votes are more indicative than they are.

[Wisdom]

perhaps Lucian was scum and was trying to buddy towards anxiety as a possible chosen.

Why specifically chosen as opposed to town in general? Do you think that scum will try to buddy the chosen townies?

[Wisdom]

Is that a fancy way of saying "gut"?

[Wisdom]

Uh, so Lucian-scum wagoned Anxiety-chosen with me, but then unvoted because he didn't want to lead a chosen wagon? Then why do it in the first place?

pedit: @Usted

[Wisdom]

ika, who exactly is pushing you for a mislynch here?

[Wisdom]

You can look at whos voting us and figure out who i'm pointing at

I'm looking. None of them are exactly shouting at people to have your head. So I don't understand where this "omg we're tottez chosen" is coming from.

[Wisdom]

And no, SW's posts don't do much for me.

[Wisdom]

Also ranger not reading and then trying to discredit the town reads already made is scummy as fuck

How did he do that?

[Wisdom]

What has she done that she can't pull off as scum?

[Wisdom]

ranger jsut goes "well newb != town" when iirc he clearly stated hes no newb so its a false premsise

Usted said himself he's a newb, and that's not even the point here.

[Wisdom]

SW you're not doing yourself any favors with these pseudo-meta remarks. There are very few if any people who can reliably meta me and guess who is not among them.

[Wisdom]

@wis: i didnt see that part, from what i recalled he played elsewhere first time on this site though. theres a diffrence. also its very much the point cus if you read his post its bleeds town

I don't think we're talking about the same thing.

My point is Ranger is not doing what you're saying he's doing.

[Wisdom]

What selective reading? Quote where there was pushing done to you that would warrant you thinking you are a chosen that I didn't read?

[Wisdom]

Silver is not implying to be an "i can read wisdom every game accurately" so stop acting like shes going like that. If you want her to lay off maybe you could start.

No? Because she has said "this is scum-Wisdom" at least three times now.

[Wisdom]

pedit: prob not but i still have yet to see a reason for you to keep the vote. you have never really given a real scum reason to us outside of "not enough effort" which is pretty much disproved by what we have been doing

There isn't anyone who looks scummier than you so I'm very happy with my vote.

[Wisdom]

The more I call you scum, the more you want to lynch us.

Because clearly, I have expressed a want to lynch you, right?

[Wisdom]

That plus your complete lack of trying to read anyone else and your selective interpretation of the gamestate.

Also those two are quite ironic paired together. *You* are selectively interpreting my questions to others as defending instead of attempts to figure them out, yet you call *me* out for selective interpreting.

Which you still have not explained where I selectively interpreted anything.

[Wisdom]

oh, you must be town then.

[Wisdom]

Oh, if scum were pushing SW in some random games it must definitely mean I am scum here.

Your arguments are getting better by the second.

[Wisdom]

This is boring.

[Wisdom]

Im a firm believer in cops and vigs.

There is neither in this setup.

[Wisdom]

^townslip

[Wisdom]

My impression this game is that there are no TPR's (namely no doctor)

This?

Meh. Given how much he's talking about the setup in that post, I am surprised he didn't see there are no PRs, so I am a little sceptical on this one.

[Wisdom]

Alright so I am caught up on the thread. You guys Meta game way harder than I am used to but I will do my best to contribute (considering that I haven't researched any of your playstyles). Now, I find it strange that Pisskop would OMGUS me on an RVS vote. I can see that you guys don't fluff much so I will avoid doing that.

Now given that this is a chosen game I find is strange that no one has mentioned this. I think that scum will have to be extra cautious this game trying to not buddy or push too hard on individuals that are "chosen" seeing as how they are the only individuals that know who the chosen are.

About OceanWind saying that they are confident about and Anxiety/Lucian being a scum team this early on. Well, surely not. Experienced scum doesn't want to distance themselves from scum, they don't want to buddy scum, and they don't want to ignore scum either. This Lucian interactions with Anxiety is definitely interesting. However if they were scum buddies they would have tried to be more low key.

As for me still being on my RVS vote. Well I don't see a better place for it at the moment. Putting the slightest pressure on Pisskop and then posting some fluff was cause for a PL on me, come on now.

I could see switching to Lucian for the interactions that he had with Lucian (possibly Lucian was trying to associate with the Chosen townie in order to make town think they were scum friends). However I doubt sacrificing one chosen for one mafia would be inefficient, because town would really only have to hunt down one. But yeah surely scum isn't that bad.

My impression this game is that there are no TPR's (namely no doctor)
Day/ People alive / Max scum alive for town to not lose.
1 / 9 / 2
2 / 7 / 2
3 / 5 / 2
4 / 3 / 1

This of course somewhat ignores the chosen mechanic, but we need to hit scum at least once on days 1, 2 or 3. And hit both scum in 4 days. Also we win if we avoid lynching whoever the chosen are.

This is the full post.

It is evident that he looked at the setup in detail in order to come up with this, so it's kinda impossible to miss that it's mountainous.

While with pisskop it's obvious he never looked at the setup and only now realized what he's playing.

[Wisdom]

still, it follows it IMO.

wis what would you think of a rnager/yakko team me and silver are dicussion some stuff and right now this is where we stand. everyone else has varing degrees of town

Neither of them has done very much, but I still don't understand why you're suspecting ranger.

[Wisdom]

lol

[Wisdom]

Though I personally don't multiquote and prefer answering one thing per post.

[Wisdom]

I have not played with Ranger before so I don't know about that.

[Wisdom]

Where is lucian lower than ranger? I don't remember giving a sorted readlist?

[Wisdom]

oh nvm, you weren't talking to me

[Wisdom]

Yakko I still don't know why you're scumreading Lucian. Help me.

[Wisdom]

while you are kinda giving comments towards yakko now, i am taking it you have him as null?

Yes, though the points being made against him are decent.

[Wisdom]

@someone lucian has been going for easy votes from what I recall and jist trying to seem towny. Thats what he read like to me

Which votes were easy?

[Wisdom]

Ranger is more on the town side actually; that RVS approach and insisting on it felt a little weird to lead with as scum. But I don't know her so not going to dwell on that.

[Wisdom]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Yakko

[Wisdom]

That was Anxiety, how is it a town tell?

[Wisdom]

What?

[Wisdom]

Still not getting it.

You think ika believing he's a chosen is a towntell, or that me questioning that was a towntell for me? And either way, explain why.

[Wisdom]

I asked, you're not answering.

@someone lucian has been going for easy votes from what I recall and jist trying to seem towny. Thats what he read like to me

Which votes were easy?

[Wisdom]

The only one, other than his RVS. What was "easy" about it?

[Wisdom]

Defending your scumbud lucian?

This is your reason? Lucian saying pisskop has no chill? I thought that's a joke.

[Wisdom]

I don't see what is easy about that.

[Wisdom]

I personally see it as Lucian thinking Ocean is trying to manipulate meta to push a shitcase on Matt.

[Wisdom]

I am townreading Ocean, but it has nothing to do with that post. Don't get the point of your question though?

[Wisdom]

Uhh okay?

[Wisdom]

(Not a townslip, in my opinion.)

Why not? You think pisskop faked not knowing what the setup is?

[Wisdom]

I see no reason a scum-pisskop cannot know the setup.

Scum are required to veto in pre-game. It's impossible for them not to know the setup.

[Wisdom]

I fail to see how anyone wouldn't go and look at the setup when they're told to veto, but anyway this is moot discussion as you're correct that pisskop is town regardless.

[Wisdom]

Also Ranger is town if anyone still wondered.

[Wisdom]

Lucian, what are your reads right now?

[Wisdom]

^L-1

[Wisdom]

Lucian is scummy alright, I just hope he doesn't end up flipping chosen. He has been pushed since the beginning.

[Wisdom]

._.

[Wisdom]

Yes, he's scumreading him.

[Wisdom]

He said he wanted to reread his posts or something.

[Wisdom]

Pisskop, Matt, Ocean, you

[Wisdom]

Personally, Lucian feels too easy. Titus, have you played with scum-him?

[Wisdom]

VOTE: usted

I don't mind that.

[Wisdom]

Titus, it's an open setup.

[Wisdom]

Titus, it's an open setup.

Where is the setup?

Second post.

[Wisdom]

Why? He hasn't really been pushed, unlikely to be chosen

Lucian on the other hand is likely.

[Wisdom]

I assume scum are going to try and get the chosen lynched, so yes.

[Wisdom]

Regardless of chosen or not, lynching Lucian just doesn't feel right. Am I to assume he's so weak and obvious as scum? He was pretty decent as town.

[Wisdom]

And that's scummy because..?

[Wisdom]

Its not hammer, it's L-1.

Why is Lucian not voting scummy?

[Wisdom]

Is Lucian online?

Doesn't look like it.

[Wisdom]

Indicates lack of stance. Indicates zero scum reads. Indicates something else I'm not sure what

That's bullshit. It's not like he hasn't voted at all all game.

[Wisdom]

Usted doesn't feel as shitty as Lucian, even being newbie.

[Wisdom]

Because we're lynching a chosen.

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How the hell do you know that Wisdom?

~SW

It said so in my scum pt

...

Or you can read the game.

[Wisdom]

@wisdom are you saying that lucian is townier than usted or that usted is scummier?

Lucian feels scummier but I don't think he's scum.

[Wisdom]

I already said. This is too fucking easy, too unanimous, to be a scumlynch. It's scum getting what they want.

[Wisdom]

Usted clearly isn't unanimous if we're discussing this. There were at least two people who disliked the forming of the Usted wagon.

[Wisdom]

Also, Usted has not been pushed throughout the whole game like Lucian has. At some point he even had people townreading him.

[Wisdom]

I already said. This is too fucking easy, too unanimous, to be a scumlynch. It's scum getting what they want.

I am drunk and have no thoughts yet and I am coming down.

What should I look for in your opinion?

First of all, read Anxiety for me. I still feel they could be scum.

[Wisdom]

Both are posting. In the beginning I felt SW was pretty underwhelming in comparison to town-her.

[Wisdom]

Everytime we suspect Wisdom, he starts calling us scum.

I've been calling you scum the whole game.

[Wisdom]

Agreeing with what?

[Wisdom]

I allowed you some doubt because I didn't want to tunnel and went after yakko because I liked the points being made against him. Didn't mean I townread you.

[Wisdom]

And I didn't join you on yakko, I joined Matt and Ocean. They had the points, not you.

[Wisdom]

Everytime we suspect Wisdom, he starts calling us scum.

I've been calling you scum the whole game.

You unvoted us and went after Yakko so not really. And I'm not townreading you either but it's a bit of an exaggeration to say you've been calling us scum all game cuz you haven't been.

~SW

Unvoting you means I townread you?

Your fact twisting is ridiculous.

VOTE: Anxiety

[Wisdom]

and if you read my iso i had more then enough poitns so dont you even try that discredit shit

I could care less if you had or not (I don't remember any). The points I agreed with were the ones Matt and Ocean presented.

[Wisdom]

you still haven't addressed your changed story now of "i was scum reading you always" to "well i did have doubt"

You are playing with semantics here. You said that I only scumread you when you called me scum, which is fucking bullshit because I have been thinking you are scum for the whole game.

[Wisdom]

ISO me and show me where I said you were townreading us Wisdom? I'll wait.

~SW

You just quoted where I unvoted you and said that this doesn't count as scumreading you because I unvoted you.

[Wisdom]

I'm done with this petty argument. I'm good with lynching Anxiety or Usted. Everyone else is town.

[Wisdom]

VOTE: wisdom

Color me surprised.

[Wisdom]

VOTE: usted

This is probably more realistic than Anxiety for today.

[Wisdom]

Except Anxiety isn't.

[Wisdom]

Yep, because that's why I voted you. It's not like I was voting you before.

[Wisdom]

Except Anxiety isn't.

Sry you cant read people *hitoshrug*

I'm not the one encouraging the lynch of the most likely to be chosen.

[Wisdom]

Do you have a problem with people having townreads?

[Wisdom]

And I will continue doing it because the sheer easiness of this wagon makes it obvious I am right.

[Wisdom]

Nah, it just happens that when a town is good enough, the scum get PoE'd out.

[Wisdom]

I told you.

Pisskop, Matt, you, me, Yakko, Ocean and most likely Lucian. That leaves AA and Usted.

[Wisdom]

yakko is town, he townslipped.

@pisskop

[Wisdom]

If you're wrong on one Wisdom which one?

I know I am not sober but AA I havevat 90% town because ika gives a damn.

Ocean? I haven't played with him before but I checked his games and he always survives as scum, so that's something.

[Wisdom]

If you're wrong on one Wisdom which one?

I know I am not sober but AA I havevat 90% town because ika gives a damn.

Ocean? I haven't played with him before but I checked his games and he always survives as scum, so that's something.

Why do you think he survives?

I don't know, I didn't read them. I guess he's good at looking town.

[Wisdom]

I don't do cold meta, Titus.

[Wisdom]

I mean that I don't read games I didn't play. I meta off personal experience with people.

[Wisdom]

I don't recall feeling that, no.

[Wisdom]

I don't agree with your method. People are not robots to sort them so simply. You haven't even read the game.

[Wisdom]

This is not going anywhere. Either you'll read the game and discuss it with me, or you'll trust me and vote Usted/AA.

[Wisdom]

Because read the game

[Wisdom]

._.

[Wisdom]

Wisdom never dies

[Wisdom]

VOTE: titus

[Wisdom]

You wish I was scum, don't you?

[Wisdom]

Pray tell SW, why the fuck do I defend a weak as hell scumbuddy instead of bus the hell out of him if I didn't actually believe we're getting played?

[Wisdom]

*shrug*

Not my fault you were so scummy.

[Wisdom]

You can understand why I have zero interest in working with you.

I do understand.

[Wisdom]

You think both wagons were on scum?

[Wisdom]

Damn it!!

Lynch fucking Wisdom. He's scum FFS.

~SW

Sorry to dissapoint

[Wisdom]

Reading through the game with the flips in mind, I want Wisdom to explain that townread on LucianRoy.

I already said, I believed he was flipping chosen.

[Wisdom]

. If I were scum I would have bussed the hell out of him.

Pray tell SW, why the fuck do I defend a weak as hell scumbuddy instead of

bus the hell out of him

if I didn't actually believe we're getting played?

Don't appreciate you using the exact same expression.

[Wisdom]

No, it's just that I find newbscum often use expressions they see town use.

VOTE: usted

[Wisdom]

I wonder if it happens subconsciously?

[Wisdom]

205 was doubting Lucian is scum with Anxiety, not him being scum in general. Though I was pretty sure Anxiety was scum at the time so that probably made me look at Lucian as town.

I started thinking he's chosen when people started calling for Lucian votes and hammers

[Wisdom]

Post 207 and Post 208 were also effectively a defense of him and that's a lot before people started calling for hammers.

Those posts have nothing to do with me believing he's a chosen, so yeah?

[Wisdom]

And 208, much like the previous one you talked about, refers to him being scum with Anxiety.

[Wisdom]

I agreed with the points made against yakko on that same page (especially Matt's 306). They were things I was thinking.

The kicker was yakko insisting that Matt's case is actually a towncase.

[Wisdom]

pisskop and yakko both townslipped tho

[Wisdom]

pisskop and yakko both townslipped tho

Where?

GO READ THE GAME

This.

[Wisdom]

Dude sometimes it is that easy and usted is scum.

Why? Because she tried to get us to switch wagons? Come on join the darkside vote wisdom.

wat

[Wisdom]

I doubt Usted would have that much insight into what happens in the future. We're talking about a guy playing his first game. I think it's more likely he killed MattP

in order

to use his reads in that way.

[Wisdom]

Why is it a 1v1? He can say "oh well, it wasn't Titus" if Titus flips scum and go for someone else.

[Wisdom]

town*

[Wisdom]

He doesn't exactly say "it's me or Titus".

Also MattP wound up dead last night. His list was right about Lucian, its wrong about me, so maybe it was right about Titus.

He says, MattP was right about Lucian, wrong about me, maybe right about Titus. That doesn't lock him into anything. Nothing forces MattP to have both scum in this list of three. He can easily disregard all this and say "okay MattP wasn't right about the second scum".

[Wisdom]

VOTE: titus

[Wisdom]

I don't do analysis. It's Titus due to PoE.

[Wisdom]

Lucian didn't try to sort anyone, that's not news

[Wisdom]

I'm easy to townread. His read on Ranger was much more hedgy

[Wisdom]

I'd prolly veto you - chosen are prolly Ocean and someone else.

Titus didn't start the game so her answers won't serve anything, it was Ranger who made the veto

[Wisdom]

Ocean is a definite one because I'm pretty sure she would kill him over pisskop given his push on her, if she could.

[Wisdom]

mhm

[Wisdom]

Ocean and Yakko.

[Wisdom]

Too much thinking for no reason. It's not me, thus it's Titus. The chosen are Ocean and either yakko or I. Though I'm probably the veto tbh

[Wisdom]

Can't imagine a scumteam that would risk not being able to get rid of me

[Wisdom]

Can't nolynch in chosen

[Wisdom]

relax, it does

[Wisdom]

Well, I'll be damned. Well played, Ocean. Looks like your scumgame is really as good as I hear.

[Wisdom]

I am going to reread both of you because lylo but I am obviously heavily leaning on Ocean, if only due to yakko's townslip.

[Wisdom]

Where's your vote then?

[Wisdom]

Now that you mention it, you hammering Usted there definitely is another point towards town-you, given Titus was chosen.

[Wisdom]

Why did you think I needed death?

[Wisdom]

The vote switch from you to Lucian when you were at L-1 isn't something that comes from me as mafia. If you are town here, that should be pretty obvious.

Ugh, that's a good point as well.

I'll go reread the whole game.

[Wisdom]

Day 1, Votecount 21

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4 LucianRoy (pisskop, Anxiety Attack, OceanWind, MattP)
3 Usted (Titus, Wisdom, hi im Yakko)
1 hi im Yakko (Usted)

1 Unvote (LucianRoy)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
The deadline is in (expired on 2015-12-16 14:00:00), on Wednesday, December 16 at 2:00 pm EST.

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I think the break happened in the chosen bit.

Scum don't know who the chosen are and neither do town.

I think sw read that as we are lynchig a townie.

The question is still valid tho. The one made by sw

^The bold here. Scum do know who the chosen were, so unless he said that on purpose, that was a townslip.

[Wisdom]

SW was definitely not as confident as earlier in the game - if I was scum, I believe I'd go for yakko and play on her paranoia on you which she expressed at the beginning of the game.

I think what's happening here is that you killed her because you knew that'd make me look bad.

[Wisdom]

But ugh, that vote from yakko to Lucian in D1 really gives me pause. Would yakko kill SW though? I think he would go for you over SW.

[Wisdom]

Oh, she said that. Well, still, I'd most likely go for that. I've played with SW and I know her keys, as opposed to yakko who I'm playing my first game with.

[Wisdom]

I agree, yakko. Right now it looks like you are letting us fight each other in hopes of some vote getting thrown around.

[Wisdom]

We are not certain you are town, actually.

[Wisdom]

Can you explain your thoughts on each of us right now? Who do you think it is and why that is?

[Wisdom]

The longer I look at your townslip the longer I'm getting an image of you going "I'll say scum don't know the chosen and I'll be townread forever." Can you please do something town?

[Wisdom]

Early signs indicate Anxiety Attack and Usted are more likely scum than other players.

VOTE: Anxiety Attack.

This is a scum post as ustes is clearly noob town.

I read this, and it annoyed me like it annoyed me the first time. You were apparently right about Usted being newbtown, but how did that make Ranger's post a scumpost? These are strong words and given Ranger was apparently a chosen, I wonder if you were trying to initiate a push on Ranger here.

[Wisdom]

Are you scumreading anyone? Your vote is on Lucian yet I don't see any signs of you scumreading him.

Do I think lucian is scum? Yes.

Is your question why am I not pushing or trying to get him lynched? Mostly because I'm tired and exhausted. Why am I scum reading him? Well I was reading through the thread and got it into my head that lucian would notnonly be a good vote but a very decent vote as he was probably scum.

Also this. I just remembered your hedge on Lucian. To this day I still don't know why you were voting him despite me asking you to explain a couple times.

[Wisdom]

I don't know if it's the confbias, but I suddenly don't like any of your posts. Why did you say you'd lynch Anxiety over me if you read us both as town?

[Wisdom]

It makes sense if you are scum - egging us on to continue 1v1ing, but taking my side as Anxiety was the chosen and thus your desired lynch.

[Wisdom]

1.) it didn't make her scum.

But you literally said "this is a scumpost"?

[Wisdom]

And I don't understand your 3. It felt like the right choice to lynch Anxiety over me, despite townreading the both of us?

[Wisdom]

VOTE: usted

Why did you switch from Lucian to Usted here?

[Wisdom]

The only point in your favor is that you wanted Usted over Titus in D2, and even hammered him instead of waiting for a Titus hammer.

But now that I think about it, an Usted lynch would make it more likely Titus would get lynched on D3 and that therefore you would survive.

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VOTE: usted

Why did you switch from Lucian to Usted here?

Ika asked if I was willing I was and demonstrated.

Yeah but why were you willing to lynch Usted over Lucian? Lucian was at L-1 when you changed your vote.

[Wisdom]

VOTE: titus

And what's up here? You had just said that you want to lynch me over Usted, and told Ocean to vote me, and not Titus. Why do you vote Titus?

[Wisdom]

I have explained why I thought Lucian was town; I thought that he was a chosen with the way everyone wanted his head, I doubted that it would be so easy to lynch scum.

That didn't answer my question though. Lucian was at L-1, with your vote, and you suddenly voted Usted, why?

[Wisdom]

Bah. On one hand, the events in the gamestate make me think you make sense as the scum, on the other, your responses are so weird that I'm actually getting cold feet.

I fucking hate lylo. I'll sleep on it.

[Wisdom]

Every time I've been in lylo. In any day that is not lylo I push everything with certainty because nothing is final, but in lylo that just isn't possible. That's why I've hated it every time I've been part of it.

[Wisdom]

Sec, lemme find em

[Wisdom]

Newbie 1290 - I had been attacking Thor665 for the whole game, only to get indecisive in lylo and give him the win.

Micro 100 - Despite the last scum being practically confscum, I almost lynched the remaining townie because of paranoia.

Mini 1430 - Glork led me and serra to lylo because he knew we scumread each other. He knew what he was doing, as we did vote each other. Not as much paranoia on this one as I wasn't willing to let go of my serra scumread.

Newbie 1366 - We had two claims, one was real, I couldn't decide which, in the end I voted the real one and we lost.

Micro 204 - I was certain of the two scum all game, I managed to get paranoid in lylo and vote a townie.

Micro 262 - The definition of paranoia. One post I was certain it's sthar, the next I felt it was ETL. And all that with everyone trying to lynch me.

Micro 514 - Another 3p, I had actually been suspecting the remaining townie until lylo, but due to flavor and things it became obvious who the scum was so I didn't struggle as much here.

Might have missed some, feel free to check my wiki.

[Wisdom]

Since vote talking is going on;

I have not decided which of you is scum and I intend to leave it for tomorrow. But whoever of you is town; don't screw up and vote at this time, especially if your vote is going to be on me. I am town here, I have played transparently, it should have been obvious since the conclusion of D1 since it makes no sense for me to defend a buddy like I defended Lucian over just bussing him. I am a capable scum player, bussing him there would have given me all the cred I would have needed to win this.

It is not me. If you think it is me, don't rush into voting.

Tomorrow.

[Wisdom]

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Sleep is bad.

Not that I would have changed anything if I was here, but yeah

[Wisdom]

gg, you were both too town for me to do anything

[Wisdom]

I considered keeping SW instead of yakko to play on the paranoia you have for each other, but I was certain that in the end SW would gut-vote me, if only because she wouldn't want to let me win after suspecting me for the whole game. Therefore, I risked it all on yakko's newbness and believed I can make him believe Ocean is scum. I had completely forgotten about that vote switch though, which I couldn't really dance around, so I 180'd to trying and making yakko look scum instead, which kinda sucked.