NY 192: Game Shop Mafia (Over)

[pirate mollie]

can I discuss reads with some1 plz?

[Fro99er]

Sure.

Tell me your reads.

[RadiantCowbells]

can I discuss reads with some1 plz?

oh gee.

Too bad no one wanted to discuss reads with you

[pirate mollie]

Sure.

Tell me your reads.

I think you and jar are town. I am worried about pisskop cos it is hard to distinguish whether he is ****town or scum.

I am unsure about rc. I know you have reasons to think he is town but I wld really have loved to have town interactions with him which hasn't happened yet.

nos is defo an alt I think so it confuses things.

[Fro99er]

What is your read on Nos?

[pirate mollie]

can I discuss reads with some1 plz?

oh gee.

Too bad no one wanted to discuss reads with you

how about you not be a dick mkay?

I am gonna flip town if you are gonna be a jerk then bug off

[Nosferatu]

I'm not an alt tho

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm fine with that.

[Fro99er]

Nos is 100% not an alt.

He is accused of this every game.

Nos is a relative newb even compared to me, who had a lot of talent and promise.

[Fro99er]

*has

[Fro99er]

Mollie. Read on Nos would be great.

[pirate mollie]

I take back my town read on froggy!

[Nosferatu]

I take back my town read on froggy!

what. why.

[Fro99er]

Because we've played together a few times before, and Fro99er is two very different people when he plays the game. Generally when town he gets into a townVtown and really flustered early on. Check Refraction Mafia if you want to see a good example of this, I almost had to replace him multiple times. As scum, he's really calm and quiet and non confrontational; check Delicious Mafia 2 if you want a good example of that.

Why would a guy who flipped town ever lie about this?

[Fro99er]

I take back my town read on froggy!

what. why.

Notice how she asked for someone to interact with reads on, then when I try to get her to interact about Nos she doesn't answer.

[pirate mollie]

Mollie. Read on Nos would be great.

you are not getting 1.

I replaced in on tuesday and I had a wagon on me and have tried to talk it down COS I AM PRETTY FREAKING TOWN but no1 cares.

I think they are an alt. not sure where your surety comes from.

[Dwlee99]

She doesn't want to give any hints for the remaining scum, probs.

[Fro99er]

Read nos' case on Davesaz who flipped scum.

How can you not be sure of Nos' alignment.

I'm more sure of Nos' alignment than anyone in the game.

Even RC and Jar.

[Nosferatu]

if mollie is scum she's a bright one, because I see what she would be doing. By refusing to read me, this can be interpreted as not wanting to slip on her scum partner, casting doubt on me and shaking the confidence in the townbloc.

And if you're town, idk wtf you're doing.

pedit: see? victim no. 1 dwlee here. Or at least he's the first to point it out.

And I'm

not

an alt.

[pisskop]

And I'm not an alt.

Cool. Sorry I mentioned it, jaa?

[Fro99er]

Nobody is ever lynching Nos so if Nos is scum GG.

[Fro99er]

I can't find the post where someone asked for an explanation of my Nosferatu read and/or why it came out of the blue.

I never made a scum case. All of my previous scum reads have been overturned by me looking over and reconsidering, so if I gave you two or three people who I said I was scumreading, I'd be lying to you. I could give you people I was scumreading previously, and why I overturned my ruling, but I doubt that would be helpful to you, but irregardless, I like hearing myself talk, so I'll go ahead and list that anyway, in no particular order.

I trimmed this post down quite a bit, but the openness of the post tells me it's coming from town. Scum try to find facts to match their read, town examine the facts and make the read match.

Out of all of dave's posts, only two contain actual statements that one could derive reads from. The rest are just a series of questions and a few fairly obvious statements.


The fact that there's no train of thought in his posts, and no actions in his posts either, points to the fact that he isn't interested in clearing the game, something town would want to do; thereby making dave obviously not town-aligned.

Setting aside for the moment that the observations are incorrect,
this is the type of conclusion that town should make, if the observations were correct.

Huh, strangely enough, you don't make those conclusions, or any observations at all for that matter. Wonder what that makes you?

On another note, is it just me, or does scum have an increased propensity to say things like this when caught. They always say "even if you're wrong, your thinking is townie". So are you telling me the proper conclusion is to scum read you?

You shouldn't townread me off of my case on you, I can make a case on anyone. I could argue aero and frogger are scum together and they pretended to clear each other through meta that no one would bother to verify because of their portrayed confidence. Does that make me town because I bothered to actually care about the game? No, it means I saw something and I went after it, something scum can do just as easily as town.

A townie up against my case on them doesn't town read me, they see the hypocrisy in my argument and look at my posts under scrutiny. Not paste me on top of their read list, call me obvious town and conjure up some bullshit reason for it.

It's obvious that my case on you applies to me as well, I've done pretty much nothing this entire game and only now I jump on you, someone with few posts, an odd playstyle, and a few votes on them from before. An easy glance at your meta proves that you don't like being called out on the flaws of your playstyle. Knowing this, the obvious course of action when the crux of the argument against you is this playstyle, a town player would see the possibility that this is scum that is exploiting your attachment to your playstyle.

Why no one else considered this is beyond me, but a town player under scrutiny for a hypocritical argument certainly doesn't suddenly town read their accuser.

TLDR: You're scum and you should feel bad.

This is the most obvtown thing in the game.

[Dwlee99]

What do you mean "Victim no. 1 dwlee here"?

[pirate mollie]

She doesn't want to give any hints for the remaining scum, probs.

its like you are psychic

[pirate mollie]

if mollie is scum she's a bright one, because I see what she would be doing. By refusing to read me, this can be interpreted as not wanting to slip on her scum partner, casting doubt on me and shaking the confidence in the townbloc.

And if you're town, idk wtf you're doing.

pedit: see? victim no. 1 dwlee here. Or at least he's the first to point it out.

And I'm

not

an alt.

holy fuck