Open 631 - Diffusion of Power (Over)


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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:56 am

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Snarky why does SHOTTY appear 2 times on your read list,,
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:26 am

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Scumlean is the accurate one - I list all the names in the null pile then copy+paste them to the other piles to make my readlist, is why.
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:28 am

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OK
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:53 am

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In post 152, Lowell wrote:
In post 110, Killthestory wrote:no shit shotty's an easy mislynch, i could post a single time in this game and could probably lynch him.


Tell me more about this "mislynch"?

Pretty cut and clear. From the way Shotty plays it's easy to discern he's a VI Town whenever he plays and is easily mislynched. I'm sure he's town, but it's easy to see why he would be seen as scum with how bad a few of his posts are.

In post 153, Lowell wrote:
In post 118, Killthestory wrote:
In post 73, Lowell wrote:Nope. Jumping on wagons is awesome. Townread on snarky.


Nah, you're wrong if you think this is scummy. Wagons are pro-town. Scum tend to flit by and play conservatively, town play free. You actually going to argue that town try to tone it down more than scum? Nah. But whatever, guy, you do you I guess.

You're wrong lad. Scum can easily play as aggressive as town if not more. Such linear and close minded thinking only leads to bad scumreads and mislynches.

In post 156, SnarkySnowman wrote:
In post 131, Killthestory wrote:no you have not seen my scum game lol. like ive gotten warnings for it. its probably changed by now but yeah, i have problems with it LOL

In post 141, Killthestory wrote:Also self meta is fucking annoying. Stop using it.

Lol. The latter quote was for Shotty and his shitty excuse of a defense. The former is to prove a point that scum can easily be as aggressive as town, but I also stated it's probably already changed by now, as you quoted.

In post 165, Rhaegar wrote:
In post 139, Killthestory wrote:Rhea far is town. Town lean on Lowell just because I was pressuring him, but my gut said he was town. Rhaegar's explanations were also satisfactory, and it helped in his case. Well done.

First, it's Rhaegar (I know, spellcheck likes to screw with it :D ). Secondly, when did this, "oh, I was just pressuring lowell but thought he was town" stuff come up. You certainly had me sold on you actually believing lowell was scum.

Sorry lol, autocorrect. Anyways, my gut says he's town. I always trust my gut.

In post 166, Rhaegar wrote:@killthestory: You suddenly swapped to saying lowell is town, why is your vote still on him?

VOTE: Snarky
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:54 am

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Snarky was sheeping and buddying me earlier on Shotty, but then he started scumreading me after I voted him. He also switched votes when the Shotty wagon lost momentum. Easy catch.
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:31 pm

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In post 173, SnarkySnowman wrote:
In post 166, Rhaegar wrote:Questions:
@Snarkysnowman: Why did you take your vote off of shotty, who you were/are calling scum, to put it on Almost. The shotty wagon still had momentum, and the almost wagon had none. It seems odd that you would abandon a good wagon on one scumspect, to place a vote on a nonexistant wagon of another scumspect.

The reason I voted shotty in the first place was because he basically claimed scum. Pretty sure it was a joke, and it fits with his meta from what I've read, but I'm reading both KTS and Almost as more scummy than shotty. He's still on my radar, but I think there are better options at the moment.


This is a revisionist history. Here's what happened.

Snarky does do a joke RVS vote right away on Shotty (post 12) in it he acknowledges the predilection this site has for quick shotty lynches. However, he quickly removes his vote for another one I assume is a joke on pisskop (post 21).

Snarky returns to vote for Shotty and makes a statement that "shotty did just kinda claim scum" (post 36). Several posts later, killthestory refers to shotty's play as being "still scummy as fuck" (post 46). Now, snarky immediately makes a post consisting of that quote (post 47), making it obvious that he agrees with the sentiment that Shotty is scum.

However, in Snarky's next post, he calls an "Almost / Shotty" scum team and swaps his vote over to Almost (post 97).

Therein lies the problem.

You see, if you think two players are a scum team what makes more sense? Keeping your vote on the player who already has a bandwagon of four people including yourself. OR, swapping your vote over to someone who has non one else voting him.

Snarky's action in post 97 do not show a town mindset. Town wants to lynch scum. Town does not name two people as scum and then jump off the much larger bandwagon onto a nonexistant one without a damn good reason for doing so. This is fishy as heck.

So, I'll ask again.

Snarky, how do you explain this sequence of events? Particularly, why you did what you did in post 97?
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:42 pm

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And there's why Rhae is town.
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:48 pm

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137 was my first serious post of this game. Like I said, 97, I was more interested in Almost in regards to interaction with shotty. Again, I'm not sure I actually believe shotty is actually scum given his meta and what I've read of him.
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:51 pm

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Um, I don' t see a post 137 by you. Care to try that again?
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:53 pm

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bro you're such scum you're trying to imitate someone else


What is wrong with you child.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:55 pm

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Somehow I think that post wasn't addressed to me : )
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:56 pm

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Derp. 134, not 137
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:58 pm

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In post 182, SnarkySnowman wrote:[134] was my first serious post of this game. Like I said, 97, I was more interested in Almost in regards to interaction with shotty. Again, I'm not sure I actually believe shotty is actually scum given his meta and what I've read of him.

It's going to be really hard for someone to convince me to move my vote right now
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:03 pm

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this dude is lying out of his ass too.

How bad is it gonna get?
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:05 pm

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In post 181, Killthestory wrote:And there's why Rhae is town.

In post 184, Killthestory wrote:bro you're such scum you're trying to imitate someone else


What is wrong with you child.

In post 188, Killthestory wrote:this dude is lying out of his ass too.

How bad is it gonna get?


Yuck.
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:07 pm

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One thing that Snarky did that i find curios is that he re-posted the 2 quotes from KilltheStory, that Lowell had already done.

Instead of referencing the original pickup (Lowell) he did it himself for the sweet sweet town cred.

Minor point, but something i always look out for when someone else is trying to gain cred as opposed to just hunting.
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:13 pm

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Autti, I know. KTS is kissing my ass and it is making me just as uncomfortable as you. That can be dealt with later. I wanna see this happen.

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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:20 pm

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wat?
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:29 pm

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HELLOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM KAIN TEPES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:33 pm

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Motherfucker I don't kiss anyone's ass but the bitches I pick up bro. I eat the booty like the groceries.
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:36 pm

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TMI
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:36 pm

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dont say words like a*s and b*tch they are bad words.......
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:37 pm

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Votecount 1.04
Killthestory [3]
: KainTepes, Autti, Lowell
SnarkySnowman [3]
: Kop, Rhaegar, Killthestory
Lowell [2]
: pisskop, drmyshottyizsik
drmyshottyizsik [2]
: chilledtea, duppin
KainTepes [2]
: pistachi0n, Almost50
Almost50 [1]
: SnarkySnowman

Not Voting:
No one


With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Day 1 will end in (expired on 2016-04-03 09:11:42).

This votecount brought to you by the player who privately requested it. Stay gold.
One man's trash talk is another man's treasure talk.
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:42 pm

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I am re-reading and posting thoughts across several posts guys.

In post 115, Rhaegar wrote:What's hard to get? I'm lobbying you to vote the person I actually think is scum rather than someone I don't think is scum?

Anyway.

Took the time to read through some of Lowell's most recent games. Only found town ones, but his play style appeared similar to here. He has good opinions about mafia theory and seems to follow them as town. That to me is key. Town players should by instinct be genuinely pursing scum, not making up bullshit reasons to do so.

I also really like (post 87). I disagree with the premise, but I don't disagree that he sincerely holds it and from that standpoint it explains his vote on shotty rather well.

Lowell is town in my opinion. I won't be joining that wagon.


Okay. I like this a lot. If Rhaegar really took the time to read through Lowell's history, I am impressed. I know I considered him town before, but I wanted to make this more out in public.
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:43 pm

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SUCH explicit buddying!!!!!

VOTE: CHILLEDTEA!!!!

I NOTICED YOUR PLAN RIGHT AWAY
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