Open 643: Kill All Townies! (Game Over)
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Huh.. I thought the opportunism to the LQ wagon was about me but now I realize it was in general. I assume you've read Smither vs me anyway so there's not much more for me to say about my vote there.In post 424, pistachi0n wrote:
There was some opportunism in the LQ wagon, but it's Day 1 and multiball.In post 367, Smithereens wrote:@Pista,
What are your thoughts on Jae?
Also, it's well worth reading up on LQ. I had this feeling that the wagon was too opportunistic to be genuine and I've reached the belief that there isn't anything noticeably different about LQ from game to game. Certainly not enough for everyone to be scum reading him for it.
I don't like how Jae is being so weird about Ranger (first puts blind faith in her, then votes her because she disagrees with some of her lists, then unvotes her because "she's dead tonight anyway." I can't tell if that's fumbling scum or confused newbie town, though.
Ranger, however, I can talk about. For freakin' miles. The short version is: I idolize her. She's my hero and I wanna be half as good as her. There are a few people that I want to take various things from but Ranger is justcoolto me. If you see a game we played together, C9++ modded by lilith, you'll see the way I interacted with her when I was town and she was scum. I fought against her lynch only for her to self hammer with a message to her scum buddies. I got vigged for it because I made myself an easy mislynch target.
I know no one cares but...
Spoiler: storytime/long version-
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Don't worry it still is.In post 451, JaeReed wrote:
Huh.. I thought the opportunism to the LQ wagon was about me...In post 424, pistachi0n wrote:
There was some opportunism in the LQ wagon, but it's Day 1 and multiball.In post 367, Smithereens wrote:@Pista,
What are your thoughts on Jae?
Also, it's well worth reading up on LQ. I had this feeling that the wagon was too opportunistic to be genuine and I've reached the belief that there isn't anything noticeably different about LQ from game to game. Certainly not enough for everyone to be scum reading him for it.
I don't like how Jae is being so weird about Ranger (first puts blind faith in her, then votes her because she disagrees with some of her lists, then unvotes her because "she's dead tonight anyway." I can't tell if that's fumbling scum or confused newbie town, though.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
You was doided teh aposit_tisopa het dedoid saw em.-
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JaeReed Jack of All Trades
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Love's a strong word. Idolize. Hero worship. Love is reserved for certain people in my life.In post 453, pistachi0n wrote:Jae, I read your long post about Ranger, and like...it just seems like a personal history story between you and somebody else that doesn't really affect me? Like, I'm wondering if the intent is to distract me from thinking your interactions in this game are weird? I get it, YOU LOVE RANGER.
And I did say no one cares Hence why it was spoilered. I honestly didn't expect you to read it xD-
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JaeReed Jack of All Trades
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See what I'm saying??In post 426, KuroiXHF wrote:Weren't you just complaining about confirm bias? You're doing the exact same thing, except confirm biasing as town.-
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Hey House, who's scum?Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?-
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"must have"? Not "did"? Not explaining how, which ones, and why?In post 441, Creature wrote:
Most of my methods hasn't changed, but this is a 17-player game rather than 9-player game, so some of my methods must've changed.In post 440, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Explain the difference. Why should methods change from a newbie to a game like this?In post 439, Creature wrote:
In the newbie game, is this newbie?In post 437, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Now you are poking holes in my arguments which you didn't do once in the Newbie game, you just sorta stated things there because you knew you were Town.In post 434, Creature wrote:
Harder to do here.In post 432, LicketyQuickety wrote:You are not setting traps
I wanted to see this going on for a while.or being active
I am confident but I don't need to post every post I am town.or being confident in your towniness.
Reaching for a fire extinguisher, are we?-
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I'm not giving you people to call town out of spite.In post 461, Not_Mafia wrote:Hey House, who's scum?-
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karnos Mafia Scum
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In post 443, Chip Butty wrote:Here is a character who hasn't received enough attention so far, imo. This is his complete (edited) ISO:
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And that's it. Not even ONE post that could be called serious scumhunting so far...
I don't like this one bit, that isn't the Chip I know. You are not voting anyone and you felt the need to make a detailed iso showing why DixC is scummy, but you didn't actually vote him?
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Chip Butty Mafia Scum
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Do you think Dix's ISO looks scummy or not?In post 464, karnos wrote: I don't like this one bit, that isn't the Chip I know. You are not voting anyone and you felt the need to make a detailed iso showing why DixC is scummy, but you didn't actually vote him?
VOTE: Chip Butty
As for voting, I'm trying to decide whether to revote LQ or not, and Dix has been pinging me ever since that post where he listed his "kill list" criteria. I want to reread, and pref get a response from Dix, then wil vote. Was more focussed on another game last time I was logged in - you know which one.-
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Charloux Mafia Scum
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How do you know they aren't even trying? *Gasp* OR DO YOU?!In post 425, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Obviously, it is because Town is divided and Scum are not taking advantage of that.In post 423, Not_Mafia wrote:Why is the biggest wagon only 4 votes in a 17 player game?
This is cruel, even if it comes from you... Are you saying that she doesn't have a right to play? Or she can only play when she gets scum but get lynched D2 for surviving?In post 426, KuroiXHF wrote:
While you are 100% percent right and I know I can trust this statement whether you're town, scum or scum, the question remains - why the hell did you even join?In post 373, Ranger wrote:
It's multiball.Kuroi wrote:Ranger's posts have been completely null to me.
Multiball.
You don't need to read me.
Like, at all.
I'm dead.
Like, no matter what, I'm a corpse before the end of the game.
...Hi? Not sure if this was even directed at me, or you are saying that his action reminded you of me?In post 448, Creature wrote:Hi Charloux
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STOP. Stop it stop it stop it! If i feel so grossed out by this, but i can't even imagine Rangers reaction. Forget Romeo and Juliet, the only comparison i can give is the lack of love in Frankensteins monster!
@Kuroi wtf is this It would be the same principal if you said that someone is scum, except he isn't scum. Can you explain please? Note that this isn't game related so you don't have to.In post 460, House wrote:
See what I'm saying??In post 426, KuroiXHF wrote:Weren't you just complaining about confirm bias? You're doing the exact same thing, except confirm biasing as town.-
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Well, for a start, sometimes, scumteams are stupid enough toKuroi wrote:why the hell did you even join?notnightkill me N1, so I can play longer. (Sometimes.) Then you get into the fact that one day isplentylong enough to nail most, if not all, of the scum. That's reason enough to join.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
"Ranger fake claiming? I'm shocked"- usesPython-
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This is not the first time Smithereens has mixed up opens.Creature wrote:Who's Ira?
{karnos, hiplop, Smithereens, JaeReed, Charloux}
{Kuroi, pistachi0n, Chip Butty}
{Almost50}
{Kop, Creature}
{Not_Mafia}
{Bellaphant}
{DixC}
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{LicketyQuickety}AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
"Ranger fake claiming? I'm shocked"- usesPython-
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JaeReed Jack of All Trades
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@Ranger Have you checked LQ's tone in his scum and town games compared to this game? He seems a lot more passive as scum but I'm honestly not sure whether it's just because he doesn't have to scumhunt in the games he linked. Humour me and meta argument? (yeah I know I'm associating myself strongly with you at this point but screw it I think you're probs town despite the buddying)
Townreading: Karnos, Smither, pista, Kuroi, Almost, Kop, Charl
Scumreading: DixC, LQ, Bella
Rest are kinda up in the air for me til I do a review. It's State of Origin tho so not tonight and probably not tomorrow because QLD gonna win tonight pre sure and I'm gonna end up drunk if not already <3-
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karnos Mafia Scum
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I don't know. I should know DixC, since I've played a lot of games with him on the other forums, but I'm finding it a little hard to read him here since the meta is so different.In post 465, Chip Butty wrote:
Do you think Dix's ISO looks scummy or not?
As for voting, I'm trying to decide whether to revote LQ or not, and Dix has been pinging me ever since that post where he listed his "kill list" criteria. I want to reread, and pref get a response from Dix, then wil vote. Was more focussed on another game last time I was logged in - you know which one.
I know my first game here was pretty awkward and everyone immediately thought I was scum, so I think it's possible some of his 'scum tells' are just because he is new and not posting in the typical style of these forums.
Overall, he is a solid null as I read him.-
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JaeReed Jack of All Trades
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What about if you were reading him in the method of your home forum?In post 470, karnos wrote:
I don't know. I should know DixC, since I've played a lot of games with him on the other forums, but I'm finding it a little hard to read him here since the meta is so different.In post 465, Chip Butty wrote:
Do you think Dix's ISO looks scummy or not?
As for voting, I'm trying to decide whether to revote LQ or not, and Dix has been pinging me ever since that post where he listed his "kill list" criteria. I want to reread, and pref get a response from Dix, then wil vote. Was more focussed on another game last time I was logged in - you know which one.
I know my first game here was pretty awkward and everyone immediately thought I was scum, so I think it's possible some of his 'scum tells' are just because he is new and not posting in the typical style of these forums.
Overall, he is a solid null as I read him.-
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karnos Mafia Scum
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'Scum' isn't a term we used, so I don't think his use of 'mafia' is indicative of anything.
His theory talk and asking what dumpster scum is, nothing bad there, maybe even a slight town lean IMO.
The Chip/LQ associations talk, that is a bit reaching, and I don't agree with his thinking but that sort of post can be a reaction test.
A nice solid null. I wouldn't bank on him being town by any stretch, but I don't see anything super scummy either.-
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JaeReed Jack of All Trades
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Why do you find only theory talk to be a slight town lean instead of trying to escape scrutiny?
Reaching is fine, I think town and scum do that equally and it's more in the way they go about it. I think he was really off as far as conclusions, but I can't tell if that's scummy or not in the way he did it.-
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karnos Mafia Scum
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Mainly, I don't think he needed to escape scrutiny at that point. I didn't do an exhaustive check but I don't think anyone was even voting him at the time, he responded to house's vote on him but at the time house had already unvoted. He could have just ignored the whole thing, instead he brought it back into the light, which is why I saw it as a slightly townish post.In post 473, JaeReed wrote:Why do you find only theory talk to be a slight town lean instead of trying to escape scrutiny?
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